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Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode VI Return of the Threadi

'''City level+''' (Significantly less powerful than before on account of old age and lack of practice. Even still, Obi-Wan defeated Rebels [[Darth Maul]] in three master strokes, and put up an extended duel with [[Darth Vader]], whom was treating him cautiously due to both previous defeats to Kenobi)

Here's the Old Ben Kenobi section
 
DaReaperMan said:
'''City level+''' (Significantly less powerful than before on account of old age and lack of practice. Even still, Obi-Wan defeated Rebels [[Darth Maul]] in three master strokes, and put up an extended duel with [[Darth Vader]], whom was treating him cautiously due to both previous defeats to Kenobi)

Here's the Old Ben Kenobi section
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I'm still putting the gallery together for you.

But one thing to note is that Obi-Wan had no hope of winning this fight, and he felt pain with every blow.
 
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DaReaperMan said:
'''City level+''' (Significantly less powerful than before on account of old age and lack of practice. Even still, Obi-Wan defeated Rebels [[Darth Maul]] in three master strokes, and put up an extended duel with [[Darth Vader]], whom was treating him cautiously due to both previous defeats to Kenobi)

Here's the Old Ben Kenobi section
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Obi-Wan Scans

Scaling:

vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi (Vader vs Obi-Wan) [ROTS]​

vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi (Vader vs Obi-Wan) [OWK]​

vs. Old Obi-Wan Kenobi (Vader vs Obi-Wan) [ANH]​

Obi-Wan OWK extra scans
 
Phsccarvalho said:
I'm still putting the gallery together for you.

But one thing to note is that Obi-Wan had no hope of winning this fight, and he felt pain with every blow.

Check out my sandbox. It has three important sections.

vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi (Final Battle - OWK)​

vs. Old Obi-Wan Kenobi​

OWK
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Finished up statistics for OWK and Old Ben with references and whatnot.

RotS should also be easy, from there I need to get busy with rewatching basically all of Clone Wars and turning his page into a barcode of scans and references
 
DaReaperMan said:
Finished up statistics for OWK and Old Ben with references and whatnot.
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Some corrections.

Only at the beginning of OWK, Obi-Wan weaker and out of practice.

But in the final battle he is already at ROTS level. After getting out of the hole he has an amplification that allows him to defeat Vader.

OWK takes place in 9 BBY. It's not Vader Year 1, but 10 years later.

And in ANH I think you should emphasize that Obi-Wan had no chance of winning, otherwise people might think they are relative, when they are not.

DaReaperMan said:
Oh, and in future when you're producing new scans, please use something like imgchest. It gets a little annoying having to transport the scans to a less-likely-to-get-nuked location for being Star Wars.
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OK.

In the next scan cocktails I'll put them on imgchest.

In sandbox2 everything is already on Imgur and there's really no way to transfer all of that to imgchest.
 
DaReaperMan said:
location for being Star Wars
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Ironically, my Force Amplification scan gallery was malfunctioning at the time because of this.

When I did the CRT, the gallery kept stopping working, and I didn't know why. I could see the link, but other people couldn't.

I discovered that a specific video in the gallery was causing a copyright issue. Fortunately, since the gallery was on my account, I could see it and copy and paste the scans again.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
Some corrections.

Only at the beginning of OWK, Obi-Wan weaker and out of practice.
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Why do you think I said "Initially"?
Phsccarvalho said:
But in the final battle he is already at ROTS level. After getting out of the hole he has an amplification that allows him to defeat Vader.
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Already there
Phsccarvalho said:
OWK takes place in 9 BBY. It's not Vader Year 1, but 10 years later.
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changed
Phsccarvalho said:
And in ANH I think you should emphasize that Obi-Wan had no chance of winning, otherwise people might think they are relative, when they are not.
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done
Phsccarvalho said:
OK.

In the next scan cocktails I'll put them on imgchest.

In sandbox2 everything is already on Imgur and there's really no way to transfer all of that to imgchest.
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yeah there's no issues there, I just need to move what I am using to it, besides the video scan but **** life I guess lol
Phsccarvalho said:
Ironically, my Force Amplification scan gallery was malfunctioning at the time because of this.

When I did the CRT, the gallery kept stopping working, and I didn't know why. I could see the link, but other people couldn't.

I discovered that a specific video in the gallery was causing a copyright issue. Fortunately, since the gallery was on my account, I could see it and copy and paste the scans again.
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And this is why, cause Imgchest isn't so stingy
 
Phsccarvalho said:
If you need any videos, I can download them and send them to you.
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I haven't needed anything beyond the WoG for Kenobi being at his prime in OWK yet.

Oh, and I added that Maul wasn't shit to Vader to the OWK section because ******** on Obi-Wan's main rival is fun
 
DaReaperMan said:
I haven't needed anything beyond the WoG for Kenobi being at his prime in OWK yet.

Oh, and I added that Maul wasn't shit to Vader to the OWK section because ******** on Obi-Wan's main rival is fun
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www.mediafire.com

iQFotqy - Imgur

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.
www.mediafire.com
 
Phsccarvalho said:
Can I make an edit to the notable Techniques? If you don't like it, I'll remove it.
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Oh, and for the record: I don't seem to have access to the comics, so you'll have to tell me if anything noteworthy happens in them for intelligence or anything else.
 
DaReaperMan said:
Oh, and for the record: I don't seem to have access to the comics, so you'll have to tell me if anything noteworthy happens in them for intelligence or anything else.
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Okay, I edited the profile.

Could you check it? I haven't finished because I have to transcribe a lot of text.

So I just listed the Forms and finished Form 1.

I know my blog exists, but I thought it would be cool to have it on the profiles too. And it's kind of useful for everyone.

All scans come from that link indexed in "All scans". What do you think of the idea?

Oh, I listed all the forms because Jedi practice all the forms, although each one has their favorite form.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
All scans come from that link indexed in "All scans". What do you think of the idea?
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I'd say include at least references in the descriptions, and transport the scans into your blog, and link that in all scans, Maybe in a "For more information about Lightsaber Combat forms, see this blog"
Phsccarvalho said:
Oh, I listed all the forms because Jedi practice all the forms, although each one has their favorite form.
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You should also list Obi-Wan's potency in each of the forms he knows, probably varying from Padawan to Grandmaster.
  1. Shii-Cho: Master level; Obi-Wan, as with all Jedi, learned form one first, and had to master it before even attaining padawan-hood.
  2. Makashi: Padawan level; Both Jedi and Sith train in lightsaber combat, with someone not particularly known for practicing Makashi, Darth Maul, being capable of using the form.
  3. Soresu: Grandmaster level; Referred to as "The Maser of Soresu" by Mace Windu, Obi-Wan has perfected the defensive form to the point where he is above even Yoda in proficiency with the defensive Fighting Style.
  4. etcetera. Ataru, Djem So, and Jian would be Knight level thanks to either being taught it or teaching it, Niman would be Unknown, since we know he has it but not to what proficiency, and form 7 would either be Padawan or Unknown for it being questionable if he even has it.
 
DaReaperMan said:
I'd say include at least references in the descriptions, and transport the scans into your blog, and link that in all scans, Maybe in a "For more information about Lightsaber Combat forms, see this blog"
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I think I know now.

I'll update my blog to have a complete description of each Forma as I tested it now in the Obi-Wan sandbox.

I've wanted to do this before, I think now is a good time.

Then I'll just quote the basic description and link to the blog.

DaReaperMan said:
You should also list Obi-Wan's potency in each of the forms he knows, probably varying from Padawan to Grandmaster.
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I think it's possible, but I think we'd have to base it on more concrete things.

Anyway, I'll update your sandbox, and after my current CRT I'll try to update the blog.

I mean, technically everything I update is already accepted in scan format, I would just transcribe it. I'll ask a staff member if I can update without a CRT.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
I think I know now.

I'll update my blog to have a complete description of each Forma as I tested it now in the Obi-Wan sandbox.

I've wanted to do this before, I think now is a good time.

Then I'll just quote the basic description and link to the blog.
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Good idea there
Phsccarvalho said:
I think it's possible, but I think we'd have to base it on more concrete things.
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Well, Padawan or Unknown is the baseline, and with Jedi unless stated to know it, form 7 would be Unknown or just wouldn't be listed.
 
isn't this crt accepted now?
vsbattles.com

UNLIMITED POWER (sw canon blah blah crt)

extra scan for the Force/Force Energy (the source of all things) - Life Manipulation was added to Force Lightning because it has life-draining effects. Life/vital energy is the same thing as Force/Force Energy. This is already accepted on the page, but it's just an example. I'm only putting...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
 
Ruby_R_Dracula said:
isn't this crt accepted now?
vsbattles.com

UNLIMITED POWER (sw canon blah blah crt)

extra scan for the Force/Force Energy (the source of all things) - Life Manipulation was added to Force Lightning because it has life-draining effects. Life/vital energy is the same thing as Force/Force Energy. This is already accepted on the page, but it's just an example. I'm only putting...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
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Yes, I'm waiting for them to unlock the Force page.

You can start using the blaster thing if you want.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
Yes, I'm waiting for them to unlock the Force page.

You can start using the blaster thing if you want.
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I got a bunch fo stuff planned for Grievous rn (Intelligence Rework) and I'm tryin to get a bunch of scans (too bad alot of the books I need aren't in Anna's Archive) but I'll try to apply them when I get some time
 
Ruby_R_Dracula said:
I think he just forgot to enhance himself with the force, but that's just me thoughts
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Honestly the easier way to explain it is probably that a drop kick from a vantage point with the soles of your armored boots is more effective and less hurtful than kicking metal with leather boots and only one leg.
 
Weaknesses: Obi-Wan as a padawan can be emotional and brash | While extrmely skilled, Obi-Wan's defense is not impossible to overpower in melee nor is his stamina indefinite. Obi-Wan is notably less skilled in pure hand to hand than he is in lightsaber combat.

No scans yet but this is Obi-Wan's weakness section right now
 
No one's currently working on the clone profiles, right? Maybe I could try looking into them when I rewatch CW and BB
 
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