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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

The Arbiter Generals themselves are stated to be the emanators
ICL I think they themselves are weak asf outside of their summons which seem to be stronger. They are Emanators though, no doubt about that. Feixiao seems much more like an Emanator, no need to explain why. She's blatantly one of the strongest and fastest we've seen, other than the Ampho high tiers, the Lord Ravagers and SW999
 
Fair enough but when he's on his knees from Phantylia or anyone relevant and General Hua saves his ass, I'll need that reverse apology form or some shit lmao
Ok but tbf the Ravagers are lowkey all meant to be goats cuz they're made to bring down entire paths and so far all of them needed to get jumped to be defeated (Zulo is kinda the only one you can call mid but even then it's heavily implied that the shadow in Ashveil's arm is a piece of Oroboros's body).
 
Doggo, the new key is supposed to explain the reason why they scale to 12 CF Khaslana and Incomplete Irontomb. It doesn't break the scaling and fixes EVERYTHING because their justification/scaling is self contained within this ascended key based on how Recurrences/Scepter works. The Ascended heirs are far superior to the recurrence heirs.
Thats why I brought up your solution in the comment? I actually buy what you are saying. Im just saying the other thing I said
 
Would it be fair to scale to the absolute low tiers to this? Fragmentum monsters can produce star-level heat after all.

I'm referring to folks like Arlan and Pela
Simple question, because I'm having trouble understanding: do the Fragmentum monsters actually possess the ability to generate this heat? I mean, I agree the statement says so, but do they actually behave like monsters that show up with a heat generation of 15 million degrees on a planet that... well, is cold?
 
Simple question, because I'm having trouble understanding: do the Fragmentum monsters actually possess the ability to generate this heat? I mean, I agree the statement says so, but do they actually behave like monsters that show up with a heat generation of 15 million degrees on a planet that... well, is cold?
I think its just one monster who does this but you make a good point but this is fiction sooo...
 
Yeah its a pretty much don’t think about. This applies to every single boss attack animation that doesn’t show area damage afterwards lmao
Im actually asking so when I get around making those civilization profiles, I can make the fodders tier 8 (Cloud Knights, IPC goons,etc.)

tier 3 Cloud Knights
 
I really hope that spear is also a paintbrush lol. I'm sorta envisioning Himeko using Imagenesis to create mechanical weapons.
Spear? I thought it was a banner
Btw doesnt that mean our old mask was just a psuedo? And the new one is the real mask? Are we evanescia’s highschooler?
I wouldn't say that's his true appearance
The game says that when the Wish surges towards TB, we crack the raccoon mask and, thanks to the Stellaron, we absorb all the Wish, allowing us to recast the mask and match the People's Wishes we wear. In other words, the mask was changed by the People's Wishes to match that of a Hero; that's the image TB wanted to project to people when they looked at him
At least, that's what he said to Evanescia in the Phantasmoon Courtyard
What matters is the image I want to give people when they look at me
 
I think its just one monster who does this but you make a good point but this is fiction sooo...
That's kind of the source of the problem, even if yes it's a specific type of monster, I don't know how I'm supposed to believe a monster could generate that kind of heat when it doesn't behave like a monster that generates that kind of heat
Unless it's an ability with a truly minuscule range
 
why does he not
Dude.

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Tell me its ragebait so i dont gotta respond 💔💔
 
Yall are overcomplicating the scaling. The scaling is really easy for this. Lygus' AP doesn't change from this or affect other Emanators.
All emanators upscale from the highest pathstrider but since tb doesnt gain more then oke
Also Trailblazer doesn't get more coreflames. She has 1 the entire arc. When she loses time then she just gains worldbearing. She just uses time against Lygus.
Same as above
 
idc thats before he fused w the golden blood.
Drop of golden blood zephyro still no diffs
fraudphyro didn't even dare go near him in firenon mode
He was literally right in front of him phainon just got really big and ran at nanook honestly this is just zephyro upscale
AND then he started rambling weird stuff and being jealous over him wounding his boss 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️
He was just glazing irontomb
 
Real question: They've said that Elio is unable to see/predict things when Aeons directly intervene, so does this mean every time an Aeon has physically appeared Elio was unable to deduce the outcome? If that is the case then was Elio legit just praying for his life that we didn't screw up on Amphoreus 😭😭😭
 
Real question: They've said that Elio is unable to see/predict things when Aeons directly intervene, so does this mean every time an Aeon has physically appeared Elio was unable to deduce the outcome? If that is the case then was Elio legit just praying for his life that we didn't screw up on Amphoreus 😭😭😭
Nah its kinda weird

He does predict things when aeons appear like with ENAday and the alternate timeline yaoshi and Fuli endings, hell he literally has 1-2/1000ths of terminus near him or the SH at all times, its most likely just something to do with certain aeons like Aha, IX, or Mythus since they are notoriously very unpredictable and IX (nihility in general) has some passive powernull to other paths though idk nihility is iffy
 
Nah its kinda weird

He does predict things when aeons appear like with ENAday and the alternate timeline yaoshi and Fuli endings, hell he literally has 1-2/1000ths of terminus near him or the SH at all times, its most likely just something to do with certain aeons like Aha, IX, or Mythus since they are notoriously very unpredictable and IX (nihility in general) has some passive powernull to other paths though idk nihility is iffy
I see

It would've been really funny if Amphoreus legit had Elio losing his shit but aw ig not
 
IX (nihility in general) has some passive powernull to other paths though idk nihility is iffy
Well, he's able to state and identify Firefly as the last survivor, as well as TB, in the End of Nihility, so... honestly, IX is disturbing
He's able to predict the End of Nihility but apparently can't detect the presence of THEIR Emanator (Good old Bosenmori)
It's...confusing
Yeah its a pretty much don’t think about. This applies to every single boss attack animation that doesn’t show area damage afterwards lmao
It's a shame that combat in general isn't fully represented; even narratively, it would add a little something extra to the missions.
I see

It would've been really funny if Amphoreus legit had Elio losing his shit but aw ig not
Apparently it wasn't enough of a mess to warrant SW 999 intervening 👁️👄👁️
 
Well, he's able to state and identify Firefly as the last survivor, as well as TB, in the End of Nihility, so... honestly, IX is disturbing
He's able to predict the End of Nihility but apparently can't detect the presence of THEIR Emanator (Good old Bosenmori)
It's...confusing
he likely cant detect IX either, but the way they find out its IX is if the ending of the script shows how nihility would work in general, so if the script matches what nihility as a path does he can js say its nihility or something idk
 
Apparently it wasn't enough of a mess to warrant SW 999 intervening 👁️👄👁️
The situation was probably already hectic enough with like 5 to 6 different factions pulling up with their entire fleets and the involvement of multiple Emanators/beings of comparable power, adding a variable that cannot be predicted into the fray would likely be worse in this scenario.
 
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