Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[Sus]

IF MAHORAGA ISNT ADAPTED TO ANYTHING, WOULDNT HE DIE BY GETTING HIS HEAD DESTROYED? (GENUINE QUESTION)

no, he wouldn't
sukunas first attack cut his head and he regenerated just fine

so did daburas first attack

 

[Sus]

i believe mahoraga should have high regeneration even before adapting

 

[LIGHTYW]

no, he wouldn't
sukunas first attack cut his head and he regenerated just fine

so did daburas first attack

IM TALKING ABOUT COMPLETE DESTRUCTION, LIKE WHAT DABURA DID

WOULD MAHORAGA SURVIVE THIS WITHOUTH ADAPTATION? (THIS IS WHAT MBA'S LIGHTNING WOULD DO TO HIM BTW)

 

[Sus]

IM TALKING ABOUT COMPLETE DESTRUCTION, LIKE WHAT DABURA DID

WOULD MAHORAGA SURVIVE THIS WITHOUTH ADAPTATION? (THIS IS WHAT MBA'S LIGHTNING WOULD DO TO HIM BTW)

why not?

i don't understand where did "mahoragas adaptation gives him better regeneration" idea came from when its explained that regeneration and adaptation are 2 separate things that happen after the wheel spins

regardless, lightning is not doing that much damage, hakari is much smaller than mahoraga and didn't get completely vaporized

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

regardless, lightning is not doing that much damage, hakari is much smaller than mahoraga and didn't get completely vaporized

You don't even have to get it to that point cause literally everything Kashimo does transfers charges and has an electric effect. Maho is gonna be adapted before the lightning even goes off.

 

[Sus]

You don't even have to get it to that point cause literally everything Kashimo does transfers charges and has an electric effect. Maho is gonna be adapted before the lightning even goes off.

according to light, kashimos lightning is a nuke and his EMWs are instant atomization

 

[Sus]

am i tripping or mahoraga is literally just a white blood cell

 

[Epiccheev]

am i tripping or mahoraga is literally just a white blood cell

There's a whole ass Brazilian Au about that

 

[LIGHTYW]

why not?

MAHORAGA NEVER TOOK THIS TYPE OF DAMAGE WITHOUTH ADAPTATION, SO..

regardless, lightning is not doing that much damage, hakari is much smaller than mahoraga and didn't get completely vaporized

KASHIMO HITS THE HEAD AND IT'S OVER BRO. BESIDES, ARE YOU FORGETTING EM WAVES

 

[LIGHTYW]

according to light, kashimos lightning is a nuke and his EMWs are instant atomization

ACCORDING TO THE MANGA* BRO. LIGHTNINGS AP IS ENOUGH TO ONE TAP SHINJUKU MAHORAGA AND EM WAVES CAN EVAPORATE THINGS BRO, MANGA STATED IT.

 

[Treeztarz]

ACCORDING TO THE MANGA* BRO. LIGHTNINGS AP IS ENOUGH TO ONE TAP SHINJUKU MAHORAGA AND EM WAVES CAN EVAPORATE THINGS BRO, MANGA STATED IT.

it was stated in cfyow

 

[Sus]

MAHORAGA NEVER TOOK THIS TYPE OF DAMAGE WITHOUTH ADAPTATION, SO..

KASHIMO HITS THE HEAD AND IT'S OVER BRO. BESIDES, ARE YOU FORGETTING EM WAVES

i don't understand where did "mahoragas adaptation gives him better regeneration" idea came from when its explained that regeneration and adaptation are 2 separate things that happen after the wheel spins

regeneration and adaptation are separate

ACCORDING TO THE MANGA* BRO. LIGHTNINGS AP IS ENOUGH TO ONE TAP SHINJUKU MAHORAGA AND EM WAVES CAN EVAPORATE THINGS BRO, MANGA STATED IT.

if dabura, sukuna and gojo had to use their ultimate attacks why do u think kashimo is doing anything

 

[LIGHTYW]

if dabura, sukuna and gojo had to use their ultimate attacks why do u think kashimo is doing anything

1ST. KASHIMO IS ALSO UP THERE WITH THOSE GUYS 2ND. THOSE GUYS COULD HAVE ONESHOTTED MAHORAGA TOO IF THEY HAD PRIOR KNOWLEDGE AND ACTUALLY WANTED TO

CONTEXT MATTERS BRO. WHY DONT YOU WANT TO ACCEPT THAT MBA CAN DEFEAT MAHORAGA?

 

[AguilaR202]

Sukuna downgrade when

I’m really not seeing the consistency of H7C physicals at this point, Gojos strongest technique only reaches it in the absolute best ends of most calcs and it obliterates Mahoraga.

Sukunas arrow despite being 7-B can’t possibly be applying that AP to individual targets because it detonates materials all around radius of Malevolent Shrine ( as opposed to a more typical explosion that expands from a center point)

 

[CosmoDark38]

You don't even have to get it to that point cause literally everything Kashimo does transfers charges and has an electric effect. Maho is gonna be adapted before the lightning even goes off.

I feel like if limitless and ce are too hard for mahoraga to immediately adapt to, cursed energy that mimics electrical charges should take more than the time it takes to set up a discharge no?

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

I feel like if limitless and ce are too hard for mahoraga to immediately adapt to, cursed energy that mimics electrical charges should take more than the time it takes to set up a discharge no?

We see how Maho adapts to stuff trying to kill him with both Gojo and Dabura. In both cases, once he takes the hit to begin with, adaptation begins and it becomes harder to damage and kill him with that phenomena. For someone like Kashimo where literally every hit from him has electricity and transfers charges, Maho is going to keep adapting at a faster rate and become resistant to it til he fully adapts. By the time it actually lands he's probably going to be resistant to it where it won't be able to blow him up (Like how Maho adapted to red to the point where it just burned him where it would've been able to one-shot him prior) or he will be damaged just won't die to it because he's already experienced it (Like with Dabura's attacks)

 

[Epiccheev]

The more mahoraga stays on panel, the longer he's affected by plot manipulation, wich means he should have high godly for being unnafected by plot level EE

 

[AthelChan]

 

[Sus]

I feel like if limitless and ce are too hard for mahoraga to immediately adapt to, cursed energy that mimics electrical charges should take more than the time it takes to set up a discharge no?

during the gojo vs sukuna fight its stated that mahoraga usually takes 1 spin to fully adapt, with the limitless being an exception because its very complicated

whats complicated about electricity?

 

[Sus]

why are yall acting like mahoraga needs adaptation anyway lightning is not one shotting him

 

[Shey]

Lunacy, Cursed Energy ≠ Energy itself.

Cursed Energy is tangible in itself, Energy in e=mc² relates to resting mass being equivalent to energy, energy isn't a metaphysical substance that exists independently, it's a property that defines interactions in physics

Creation uses an already independently existing substance to convert into matter which doesn't make sense with the formula, CE is more like a fuel if anything that can generate or be converted into energy and be used to power systems

 

[LIGHTYW]

why are yall acting like mahoraga needs adaptation anyway lightning is not one shotting him

YES, IT IS BRO. ALTHOUGH I CAN AGREE WITH WHAT ABADDON SAID

 

[Sus]

2ND. THOSE GUYS COULD HAVE ONESHOTTED MAHORAGA TOO IF THEY HAD PRIOR KNOWLEDGE AND ACTUALLY WANTED TO

lets see what each character needed to beat raga before and after he could adapt

sukuna - domain expansion (ultimately didn't work so he had to use divine flame)

gojo - cursed technique reversal (ultimately also didn't work and had to use purple, which also might have not worked if it wasn't for the risk of it being omnidirectional)

dabura: also CTR and also within a domain, and still might have not worked but the fight was interrupted

YES, IT IS BRO. ALTHOUGH I CAN AGREE WITH WHAT ABADDON SAID

limitless is so complicated and precise it requires a unique biological trait that appears twice per millennium to operate

shrine and construction took 1 spin each for mahoraga to adapt to
even red would have took 2 spins according to sukuna
its UV and infinity that take 4-5

I feel like if limitless and ce are too hard for mahoraga to immediately adapt to, cursed energy that mimics electrical charges should take more than the time it takes to set up a discharge no?

mahoraga started using CE reinforcements after 1 spin

 

[LIGHTYW]

lets see what each character needed to beat raga before and after he could adapt

sukuna - domain expansion (ultimately didn't work so he had to use divine flame)

gojo - cursed technique reversal (ultimately also didn't work and had to use purple, which also might have not worked if it wasn't for the risk of it being omnidirectional)

dabura: also CTR and also within a domain, and still might have not worked but the fight was interrupted

BRO, AGAIN, KASHIMO IS ALSO UP THERE WITH THOSE GUYS LEVEL. AND THEN, THOSE GUYS COULD HAVE ONESHOTTED MAHORAGA IN THE FIRST SEC OF THE BATTLE IF THEY HAD PRIOR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ADAPTATION. SUKUNA WOULDNT NEED DIVINE FLAME, GOJO WOULD ONESHOT MAHO IF HE WASNT WEAKENED AND IF HE WASNT ALREADY ADAPTING TO RED AND DABURA TOO. THIS COMPARISON DOESNT MAKE SENSE.

AGAIN, KASHIMO ALSO HAS EM WAVES

 

[Sus]

BRO, AGAIN, KASHIMO IS ALSO UP THERE WITH THOSE GUYS LEVEL. AND THEN, THOSE GUYS COULD HAVE ONESHOTTED MAHORAGA IN THE FIRST SEC OF THE BATTLE IF THEY HAD PRIOR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ADAPTATION. SUKUNA WOULDNT NEED DIVINE FLAME, GOJO WOULD ONESHOT MAHO IF HE WASNT WEAKENED AND IF HE WASNT ALREADY ADAPTING TO RED AND DABURA TOO. THIS COMPARISON DOESNT MAKE SENSE.

AGAIN, KASHIMO ALSO HAS EM WAVES

so you ignored all what i said, whatever

 

[BiggestOpp]

Yuji gimping low lvl mobs and Mahito is considered as fighting hard
Fraud watch?

 

[BiggestOpp]

why not?

i don't understand where did "mahoragas adaptation gives him better regeneration" idea came from when its explained that regeneration and adaptation are 2 separate things that happen after the wheel spins

regardless, lightning is not doing that much damage, hakari is much smaller than mahoraga and didn't get completely vaporized

Narrator says Sukuna’s cleave would have killed Maho, but if Maho had adapted to all slashing attacks instead of just dismantle, then he’d regenerate.
Not because he ended up enduring the attack, simply because he had adapted to it.
We even see Maho being reduced to miniature pieces by MS, meaning cleave was infact working on him.
But due to the nature of his adaption, once he starts adapting that attack can no longer kill it, regardless of its potency.

 

[Sus]

Narrator says Sukuna’s cleave would have killed Maho, but if Maho had adapted to all slashing attacks instead of just dismantle, then he’d regenerate.

it refers to MS as a whole in this context

i get what u do u mean, but it doesn't disprove mahoragas regeneration being high since he regenerates after the wheel spins

 

[Sus]

regardless, kashimo isn't killing him

 

[BiggestOpp]

it refers to MS as a whole in this context

i get what u do u mean, but it doesn't disprove mahoragas regeneration being high since he regenerates after the wheel spins

Maho is only getting targeted by cleave during MS.
Maho’s regen is iffy. Technically he can recover from near complete obliteration but that’s only if he pre adapts, if not, I believe a headshot would probably kill em.
Kashimo’s not killing bro forsure tho .

LIGHT get Kashimo past Naoya first

 

[Sus]

Maho is only getting targeted by cleave during MS.

i know, but i meant that a regular cleave wouldn't have killed him even without adapting, it was just a nitpick dont worry

I believe a headshot would probably kill em.

dismantle and light both destroyed his head pre adapting and he regenerated, but yeah mid vs high u cant get the latter accepted without further proof

 

[CosmoDark38]

during the gojo vs sukuna fight its stated that mahoraga usually takes 1 spin to fully adapt, with the limitless being an exception because its very complicated

whats complicated about electricity?

If a technique thats fundamentally just a really long distance, strong shove and strong pull are considered complicated i feel like cursed energy that mimics one of the four fundamental forces of the universe should count.

 

[Sus]

If a technique thats fundamentally just a really long distance, strong shove and strong pull are considered complicated i feel like cursed energy that mimics one of the four fundamental forces of the universe should count.

well, within JJK's context limitless is the most complicated technique, thats what the author wants you to think

even if electricity takes more than 1 spin (it shouldn't) whats an extra spin

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

This should be used for Modulo Yuji Profile pic

 

[Ozcantabak]

This should be used for Modulo Yuji Profile pic

yes

 

[LIGHTYW]

regardless, kashimo isn't killing him

YES, HE IS BRO. MBA IS FASTER AND HAS EM WAVES.

 

[LIGHTYW]

Maho is only getting targeted by cleave during MS.
Maho’s regen is iffy. Technically he can recover from near complete obliteration but that’s only if he pre adapts, if not, I believe a headshot would probably kill em.
Kashimo’s not killing bro forsure tho .

LIGHT get Kashimo past Naoya first

BIGGESTOPP GET NAOYA PAST INJURED AND NERFED MAKI FIRST

 

[Sus]

get all 3 past mahoraga's left toenail

 

[Sakamaki_Fuji]

This should be used for Modulo Yuji Profile pic

 

[BiggestOpp]

dismantle and light both destroyed his head pre adapting and he regenerated, but yeah mid vs high u cant get the latter accepted without further proof

No they both just impaled him. Neither of them seemed to be enough to “kill” him before the adaption process would start.