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Kagurabachi General Discussion Thread

MillenniumSunny said:
we see Shokoku from the air and it's shaped like a regular island instead of a sphere
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Brother most of the island is just underwater but its quite literally the same exact island the king created, you're not gonna have a full sphere above water that's not how that works the center of gravity would remain below the water so of course we're only seeing the top like third of the island.
MillenniumSunny said:
No, we see the island created by the Mikaboshi king and it looks pretty different,
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the only difference is that the surfaced part has foliage where it met the air on the surface and even then it looks exactly like that while retaining a circular shape still soo 🤷‍♂️

genuinely don't how there is any contention here, like its just outright spelled out to us. I'll leave it be though
 
MillenniumSunny said:
No, we see the island created by the Mikaboshi king and it looks pretty different, plus we see Shokoku from the air and it's shaped like a regular island instead of a sphere
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If you read back a few chapters you will see Shokoku completely covered in Trees in which the Japanese cannot see through or get near, the images we see are an aerial view of the top portion of the island above the water
We only see the initial tree covered space underwater
 
Shey said:
If you read back a few chapters you will see Shokoku completely covered in Trees in which the Japanese cannot see through or get near, the images we see are an aerial view of the top portion of the island above the water
We only see the initial tree covered space underwater
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We're also told the island is covered by an enormous forcefield the size of multiple cities that can only be produced by having a large quantity of datenseki which we see the island has the huge datenseki core when the king creates it
 
MillenniumSunny said:
as for the AP, has anyone calced the Shokoku island's size yet? I'm pretty sure EB users should just scale above the Soga ancestor by default considering Datenseki grants power beyond what can be contained by any regular human
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Absolutely not lol
MillenniumSunny said:
we're also probably getting confirmation that Shokoku reappeared because it was recreated by the prince soon, so he should scale to that soon at least
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Why are you assuming beyond what was already established, The Mikaboshi King salvaged everything with the Datenseki and created the massive pine which wreathes the Island
The Island is reemerged not recreated
 
Now that some of are hype should be mellowed out what are all of your thoughts on these new feats?

I for example still don’t think Ariu “speed feat” can be used for scaling but this was an insane ap upgrade
 
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Arkenis said:
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basically SOL.
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Actually, This is The Opposite of that, as it should be a bit reversed here i believe

So it either scales no where or proves that the characters are slower then light
 
Quiet-Plenty said:
Now that some of are hype should be mellowed out what are all of your thoughts on these new feats?

I for example still don’t think Ariu “speed” feat can be used for scaling but this was an insane ap upgrade
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There is no speed feat in Kagurabachi Chapter 119
Iabihs said:
or proves that the characters are slower then light
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This makes even less sense, light does not predict the future
 
Shey said:
There is no speed feat in Kagurabachi Chapter 119

This makes even less sense, light does not predict the future
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I know, somehow hed have to be going at negative speed???


Immeasurable SPEED UPSCALE INCOMING RAHHHHHH


Also should i read kagurabachi? Im not from here im sure u can tell
 
Iabihs said:
Actually, This is The Opposite of that, as it should be a bit reversed here i believe

So it either scales no where or proves that the characters are slower then light
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Nope its SOL. He moved fast enough to sit back that the light reflecting off the water didn't capture that.
 
Shey said:
One Hundred and Nineteen Chapters of Kagurabachi exist, you have read None, what are you doing discussing this here?
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Lowkey its a bit like JJK where my social medias just get filled with so much information that i know stuff about the series

Like a Proto-Larper

Also just wanted to talk about the speed feat
 
Arkenis said:
Nope its SOL. He moved fast enough to sit back that the light reflecting off the water didn't capture that.
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Nah dude the light would have to be predicting the future unless its the artists mistake

Or he can attack through reflections?
 
Arkenis said:
Or, and this might be better, he can attack through reflections.
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If its like some Hanged Man jojo shit or Haku shit then it could be SoL if its through reflections but I doubt its sorcery, Hokazono just wanted to showcase his speed
 
i do think this is a case of rule of cool, hokazono likely had a cool idea and just wanted to show it off.

however i do think the feat should be included as a form of supporting feats for the current speed scaling
 
Shey said:
Oh, yeah, we do already have that calced at 26 Tons, though it's old and could use a rework, but i don't think the feat is important tho?
Or what do you suggest
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Hadn't seen that calc here lol, best up for the calc managers to choose


That being said doesnt the volume here also contradict the calced volume for when sojo jumps off as well?
 
Shey said:
I have no idea, we don't use this feat for scaling. So no real importance has been placed on it
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There's nothing really to use for scaling about it since physicals aren't 1:1 to sorcery and as far as we were shown she doesn't attack anyone at all and its only just moving the stone mass which takes her whole concentration basically

Electronic74947 said:
That being said doesnt the volume here also contradict the calced volume for when sojo jumps off as well?
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It'll contradict either way you do it so it doesn't really matter, can't use it 1:1 anyways since that's calc stacking to use the values from one calc on another
Electronic74947 said:


Btw is there any credence to this feat?
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Not like this, this definitely inflates the distance above ground for GPE
 
Dalesean027 said:
It'll contradict either way you do it so it doesn't really matter, can't use it 1:1 anyways since that's calc stacking to use the values from one calc on another
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Ill rechecked the calcs. For some reason it was showing a different panel to get the size for the 26 tons calc. Thats a mistake on my end. Dont use imgur in the UK lol
 
Something that the official English translation didn't get about the Mikaboshi King's sorcery is that they translated only to "it reaches a realm far beyond mere fortification magic," but in Japanese it's said, "goes beyond the mere level of fortification; it touches on the very logic/reason of the world."
 
PingT said:
Something that the official English translation didn't get about the Mikaboshi King's sorcery is that they translated only to "it reaches a realm far beyond mere fortification magic," but in Japanese it's said, "goes beyond the mere level of fortification; it touches on the very logic/reason of the world."
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Are you suggesting there's an ability this grants?
 
Yes , if he is changing the logic/reason of the world that explains how he made the bottom of the ocean a habitable place for humans, even without air or light.
 
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