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Kagurabachi General Discussion Thread

The next Kagurabachi CRT is closer than you think
 
The Strongest Sorcerers can go toe to toe with Datenseki Mikaboshi Soldiers, this confirms some upscaling
Should at bare minimum make them low enchanted blade level and possibly extends to the current kamunabi depending on how strong they are
 
The Strongest Sorcerers can go toe to toe with Datenseki Mikaboshi Soldiers, this confirms some upscaling
Well we already knew that more elite sorcerers could fight those using datenseki based on the dudes guarding Uruha so upscaling wouldn't come from that but then again they weren't using the same kinda datenseki these dudes in the past were
 
Now that I’m thinking about it, shouldn’t sorcerers get like NPI since that have no problem with interacting with spirit energy manifestations? We know that they are raw spirit energy given forms.
 
Now that I’m thinking about it, shouldn’t sorcerers get like NPI since that have no problem with interacting with spirit energy manifestations? We know that they are raw spirit energy given forms.
We would need proof that it's intangible to begin with, since it's fiction.

It's the same reason why despite the power system being being spirit energy they don't have soul manipulation or spiritual awareness.

I would say if regular people cannot touch them then sure, but for now not really.
 
We would need proof that it's intangible to begin with, since it's fiction.

It's the same reason why despite the power system being being spirit energy they don't have soul manipulation or spiritual awareness.

I would say if regular people cannot touch them then sure, but for now not really.
Fair
 
Actually, now that I think about it, there should be some kind of fear or illusion inducement for this feat.

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What does anyone think this would fall under and those it would be applicable to?
 
Actually, now that I think about it, there should be some kind of fear or illusion inducement for this feat.

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What does anyone think this would fall under and those it would be applicable to?
Kenpachi from Bleach does a similar thing and it's labeled as illusion creation, fear manipulation, and pain manipulation
But this should probably be labeled as pretty limited considering it only had that effect on academics with no battle experience, while the actual fighters in the room were fine
 
Now that I’m thinking about it, shouldn’t sorcerers get like NPI since that have no problem with interacting with spirit energy manifestations? We know that they are raw spirit energy given forms.
I'm not even entirely sure if spirit energy is spiritual

Viz calls it spirit energy for some reason, but in Japanese they call it Genryoku (玄力), which just doesn't translate to spirit energy at all

the "gen" part means like, occult or mysterious or supernatural, and the "ryoku" part means energy

lowkey can we start calling it Genryoku instead of Spirit Energy since Spirit Energy is so much clunkier and isn't even accurate, like how they say Reiryoku on the Bleach pages
 
Is this another example of an illusion? They "saw" Yura unsheathe Magatsumi, but it never actually happened

 
Kenpachi from Bleach does a similar thing and it's labeled as illusion creation, fear manipulation, and pain manipulation
But this should probably be labeled as pretty limited considering it only had that effect on academics with no battle experience, while the actual fighters in the room were fine
Characters resisting an ability doesn't make it limited
Is this another example of an illusion? They "saw" Yura unsheathe Magatsumi, but it never actually happened


LOUD CORRECT BUZZER 🔔
 
unfortunately I don't think the reflection feat really works as a speed feat because it just doesn't make sense

it would probably be a light speed feat if he outsped his reflection, but the reflection out-sped what we see?

that doesn't really make sense, since there's no reason the light which takes a longer path by bouncing off the water should outspeed the light bouncing directly off the prince
 
as for the AP, has anyone calced the Shokoku island's size yet? I'm pretty sure EB users should just scale above the Soga ancestor by default considering Datenseki grants power beyond what can be contained by any regular human, although that also might be the point of the black sphere that Kurotsuchi summons, it might be some kind of external storage like Enkotsu or the Enchanted Blade externalizations, some more details about the Kurotsuchi technique would be nice

we're also probably getting confirmation that Shokoku reappeared because it was recreated by the prince soon, so he should scale to that soon at least
 
as for the AP, has anyone calced the Shokoku island's size yet? I'm pretty sure EB users should just scale above the Soga ancestor by default considering Datenseki grants power beyond what can be contained by any regular human
calculating Shokoku literally does not matter to this since its an entirely different island that was created after the destruction of the old one, its only relevant to the Mikaboshi king who used that big ass skyscrapper sized datenseki crystal to build a new country for themself after their defeat by the Soga Clan
we're also probably getting confirmation that Shokoku reappeared because it was recreated by the prince soon, so he should scale to that soon at least
the prince didn't recreate it... you seem to be mistaken as to what occurred in the chapter, I'd say give it a reread to pick up on the bits you missed in better detail.


Ukizane Soga destroys whatever the original island was that the Mikaboshi called home (unknown size)

Mikaboshi king using their large datenseki reserves builds a country under the sea (the island we know as Shokoku today)

Ariu Mikabashi and the 6 Guardians can draw upon the power of the datenseki's true realm and wield the same power that the original Mikaboshi King had
 
calculating Shokoku literally does not matter to this since its an entirely different island that was created after the destruction of the old one, its only relevant to the Mikaboshi king who used that big ass skyscrapper sized datenseki crystal to build a new country for themself after their defeat by the Soga Clan

the prince didn't recreate it... you seem to be mistaken as to what occurred in the chapter, I'd say give it a reread to pick up on the bits you missed in better detail.


Ukizane Soga destroys whatever the original island was that the Mikaboshi called home (unknown size)

Mikaboshi king using their large datenseki reserves builds a country under the sea (the island we know as Shokoku today)

Ariu Mikabashi and the 6 Guardians can draw upon the power of the datenseki's true realm and wield the same power that the original Mikaboshi King had
No, I'm talking theories here lmfao

I'm saying it'll MOST LIKELY be revealed that Shokoku is a recreation of the original island created by the crown prince, considering that the island isn't the shape of a sphere like the underwater country was

Obviously not guaranteed, I'm just talking about things people will PROBABLY be able to scale to
 
I'm saying it'll MOST LIKELY be revealed that Shokoku is a recreation of the original island created by the crown prince, considering that the island isn't the shape of a sphere like the underwater country was
No that's the thing Shokoku literally is the island made by the Mikaboshi king, its like literally the same exact island. The island just went to the surface after all these years but like we are directly told at the start of this arc that Shokoku came from below the sea which is where their island has been located at the entire time.


Its also literally like the exact same structurally


we see the same giant tree-root type of structure for it, so its already applicable for calcs. In that regard we don't have to speculate
 
No that's the thing Shokoku literally is the island made by the Mikaboshi king, its like literally the same exact island. The island just went to the surface after all these years but like we are directly told at the start of this arc that Shokoku came from below the sea which is where their island has been located at the entire time.


Its also literally like the exact same structurally


we see the same giant tree-root type of structure for it, so its already applicable for calcs. In that regard we don't have to speculate

No, we see the island created by the Mikaboshi king and it looks pretty different, plus we see Shokoku from the air and it's shaped like a regular island instead of a sphere

I'm just saying it's a possibility that the island appeared as a result of the crown prince's power, but it could go either way
 
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