The Honkai in GGZ literally comes from a separate universe called the Honkai Universe. That's two whole universes. It also, has, ya know, different wills of Honkai.
Didn't say that. I'm making a continuity claim. I don't think they're the same cosmology at all.
I mean i'm always watching this thread.
how can i agree with what ur saying and u still try to talk shit???? i literally said i was wrong bruh
Same timeline fr unless we're jobbing APHO and Alien Space, they are still different leaf worlds tho
I meant like I wanted to reiterate it's still different leaf worlds which meant different space-times instead of like "oh yeah they're the same space-times"
Im coming bro
Well you're gonna need to prove that which should be impossible given the devs wanting to make a multiverse and Welt going from Hi3 -> HSR and Sparkle going from HSR -> Hi3.
hes talking about ggz and hi3/hsr being on seperate trees.
How tf is GGZ splitting off HI3 because of what happened in St. Freya for them to have a completely different Imaginary Tree???
This is for GGZ, not Hi3/HSR.
Tree in HSR refers to the physical world is the issue.
Can you explain to me how you reconcile the differences in the Honkai then?
Well they have numerous crossovers and also same most of the same events during Nagazora and pre-nagazora. Azure Waters is explicitly the same too btw. It was even originally designed to be a GGZ continuation.
Yeah it's not a disqualifier. The 11D tree forms the structure of the 4D universe with how the leaf worlds are positioned.
It doesn't matter because High 1-C was explicitly for the Trunk of the Imaginary Tree
I don't know how you got to this but Cocoon doesn't just scale to the Tree, it literally had feats of it transcending the Sea of Quanta (transcending all dimensions statement) and I am sure CoF scales to the Imaginary Space which you know is the origin of the universe (Imaginary Tree) heck it's as simple as the Aeons scaling to the trunk of the Tree that's the origin of infinity leaf worlds and CoF scaling to the Imaginary Space which is the origin of the trunk here
no..? its for the entire tree but only the higher dimensional part (the hi3 one) the hsr one is only 4D tho which is just the physial plane
No. It was accepted for the place that Otto calls the "membrane" of the Imaginary Tree. We know jack about the trunk.
You don't get my point at all. Also, the Cocoon explicitly has no authority over SoQ. We're told this, and we're told it's the reason that Cocoon's influence could be washed away by the sea.
The trunk of the tree ain't the physical plane, the branches (physical plane) literally originates from the trunk in the scan I gave earlier
Probably differences in Prometheus. Maybe she got wiped out in GGZ and it lead to a more malicious Cocoon, who knows.
The issue that it is impermissible if they are in the same Tree. Otherwise Cocoon isn't the sole authority or "the only Imaginary Singularity".
genshin has 2 universes, the true universe and the dark universe (where the abyss originates)
Oh my god, Nova you are not proposing High 1-C Herrscher of Rebirth > Cocoon of Finality just because HoR Seele has authority over SoQ.
TBF they never even bring up the Tree in GGZ, it's just really iffy which is why I initially had issues with GGZ being in the cosmology (it makes inconsistencies like this) but they're clearly intended to be the part of the same cosmology. Best thing we can do is go off of statements where nothing about Imaginary Singularities is said in GGZ.
Yo, I didn't make this up. They literally say this. It's why the whole "The Sea washed away the Cocoon" thing came up a while ago.
The membrane is Imaginary Space.
Aha... ascended the Trunk?
I disagree with that, I've been saying this for a long time, but I'm too lazy to argue now, what's clear is that the HSR universe is also called the sea of stars, and the Genshin universe is also called the sea of stars.
Sena and Schro both say the Cocoon transcends + There's counters to why the Cocoon left Venus... and then HoF Kiana 1 taps Sa who's been feasting on the Sea for hundreds of millions of years.
I am pretty sure the entire Sea washing away the Cocoon thing was when it was still an alien civilization, but the moment it ascended as the Cocoon; It's not washed away anymore because it transcends the SoQ
Do you have a scan for this?
The membrane is synonymous with IT itself. Because for Otto, Imaginary Space and Imaginary Tree are functionally the exact same.
Can I have these statements
GGZ WoH actively trying to destroy whatever GGZ have so even if its still Prometeus then it would be difference Prometeus which still seperate GGZ Honkai and HI3 Honkai from each other anyway due to different Entity controlling them which will lead to HI3 Prometeus having lower control over Honkai than GGZ Prometeusbruhhhhh WoH is just prometheus
If in GGZ Prometeus ever exist and have done the same thing then maybe
Nah I'm busy rn but it's part 1.5 and somewhere in part 2
IIRC
So it only transcends dimensions? Right. But that can still only apply to IT. It doesn't state it has authority over SoQ.
