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Marvel Comics Calculations Removal
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I don’t mind Daredevil not scaling to that as he has a bunch of 9-A shit anyway, but he and many others from his Tier are far more consistent at 9-B than anything. You won’t see these characters busting massive walls anyway.
As for the 8-C characters, are there any calcs that need evaluation and feats that need to be calced?
As for the 8-C characters, are there any calcs that need evaluation and feats that need to be calced?
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The Cable feat in this blog should be recalced, after I check its context (someone should send me the issue number)
I don't think it'll retain the tier tho, single calc
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bump
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We don’t know what comic it is
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Ok the comic is Cable Vol 1 54 (altho a portion of the context is in the prior issue
Not much else, it's Cable's atmospheric re-entry that causes the crater, so it's likely 8-C either way.
I guess you can say the crater size is inconsistent? But also an important note: Cable barely survives this, he's straight up out cold and recovers after a long period. I'm gonna be honest, I have never seen a single 8-C ever substantially harm Cable from raw physicals.
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The 8-C calc assumes it’s soil, the 8-A calc is what assumes it’s rock
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I could swear I saw the 214 j/cc value in Spino’s calc. Let me check again.
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It’s high 8-C according to vs calc
== Kinetic Impact Energy Calculation ==
=== Inputs ===
- '''Mass:''' 158.76 kg
- '''Velocity:''' 11,000 m/s
- '''Preset:''' Minimum Meteor Impact (11 km/s)
=== Calculation ===
'''Step 1: Calculate v²'''
:<code>v² = 11,000 × 11,000</code>
:'''Result:''' 121,000,000 m²/s²
'''Step 2: Calculate Kinetic Energy'''
:<code>KE = 0.5 × 158.76 kg × 121,000,000 m²/s²</code>
:'''Result:''' 9.6050 × 10^9 Joules
'''Step 3: Convert to TNT Equivalent'''
:<code>9.6050 × 10^9 J ÷ 4.184×10⁹</code>
:'''Result:''' 2.2956 Tons of TNT
=== Result ===
'''9.6050 × 10^9 Joules'''
'''Attack Potency:''' [[Attack Potency|Large Building (High 8-C)]]
{| class="wikitable"
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! Unit !! Value
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| Tons of TNT || 2.2956
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| Kilotons || 0.0023
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| Megatons || 2.2956 × 10^-6
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| Gigatons || 2.2956 × 10^-9
|}
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Tomfer
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So what end we using?
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Don’t think it matters since they aren’t going to scale to 1 feat
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Honestly should Cable even scale to Cap n shit? I always thought the 90s tank type mfers were kinda treated closer to Spider-Man level or a league of their own rather than Wolverine level.
Like we're talking Warpath, Bishop and Beast here, and I think the only argument I can think of is Beast has antifeats (but that might be coz he has a jank file and lots of missing keys)
Anyways yeah we're not using it, it's a peak survival (note: not combat) feat for Cable who is already upscaling from the entire cast, and also single feat. Good to remember tho
Like we're talking Warpath, Bishop and Beast here, and I think the only argument I can think of is Beast has antifeats (but that might be coz he has a jank file and lots of missing keys)
Anyways yeah we're not using it, it's a peak survival (note: not combat) feat for Cable who is already upscaling from the entire cast, and also single feat. Good to remember tho
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If anyone doesn't have any other feats can we apply my proposal?
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What is your proposal again?
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Wonder why we didn't use re-entry speeds or normal ablation speeds, would've wielded similar-esque results. Assuming it truly is re-entry.
Also the full feat and issue number should be listed.
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Iirc using re-entry gets like a lil above a ton, so not that big of a difference all things considered (barely 8-C thing puts character out of commission).
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Using Cable's weight of 158.76 kg, he'd get High 8-C if we used 11 km/s re-entry speed.
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We don’t see him while he’s falling, we only see him right before his ship explodes and after he hits the ground
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Temp rescale solution until we get enough feats
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I think we should go ahead and apply the rescaling, and if people wanna revise the tiering that can be done later in a more ordered fashion
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None other that are supporters, otherwise @Dalesean027
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Sure this is fine
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@FinePoint is you kudosing it equivalent to approving it?
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In this case yes.
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Aight, how much more input are we doing?
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Do you want help applying the changes?
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Sure
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I'll start either tonight or on Saturday or on Sunday. I'll be doing it alphabetically from the verse page.
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