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i don't really agree with that reasoning i read OP as well as many others.
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The Sun God Nika vs The Six Paths Sage (Luffy vs Naruto).
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I guess
Which he can spam, repeatedly, but aight
Thousands of clones getting destroyed by a stretched rubber kick or a giant bite is crazy to me but whatever
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And you're allowed to have different opinions, it's just that I trust you both about as far as I could throw you and KT does calcs and powerscales two HST verses so he must be a wee nerd and I can throw him farther.
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His haki drains as he fights as well, he won't be able to keep spamming FS forever.
AOE nukes, danger sensing, and crazy coordination should allow Naruto take this.
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i mean i have heard him say he only really cares about kid naruto(og naruto) not shippuden so i doubt he would be as knowledgeable as others like me or godernet(naruto supporters).
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Luffy used kenbun haki for 11 hours he's fine.
Reflecting, better sensing, and being 1 person allows Luffy to take it
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it's not, you're ignoring how most of it is subconscious, how it gives you different types of precogs based on either reading ones intent or emotion (this is different to just knowing ones emotional state), it gives you a perception speed amp where a literal child was able to read and sense the movements of Enel traveling through objects
And other mechanics of the precog and it's uses in combat
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I only care about kid naruto regarding scaling cause everyone else is worried about god tiers. i helped with the shippuden scaling as well. in fact i've been a part of every tier of nard chars except boruto
Although (Reaper) don't take my experience as objective authority
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You're talking to someone who actively dislikes Naruto so like... What, you want me to talk about this as a casual fan of only one series? KT deals with the tier 5 BS time frame of Naruto just as much as the tier 8/7 stuff of the original. Personal preference aside from the guy
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I mean sure but he is gonna get worn out faster using it compared to katakuri who is only 1, while there are over 2000+ naruto's?
reflecting not really relevant against Multiple AOE attacks from different angles along with TSOs, he gets tagged eventually.
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I don't think you understand how future sight works.
Future sight does not give you a glimpse of what a person is going to do. It tells you the overall future. It tells you what everyone in proximity is going to do.
There are no targets, it is only future. The amount of people he's seeing in his future don't matter
He's going to get tagged, and reflect it.
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Yeah I don't I just trust you more on matters like these, and being frank my main argument with Naruto supports is uh... with a character who would probably cha-cha slide this match and is about as BS as my verses get.
So like... yeah I'm not one to talk when my main argument with the verse is with my verse that equalizes to everything because **** you that's why.
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any reason why you dislike naruto?
KT doesn't seem as knowledgeable to some naruto supporters here in the series from what i can see ngl, the fact i have to say some things that doesn't need to be said is astounding.
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Since I've finally caught up with One Piece, I can give my take on this. Considering how often Luffy's Gear 5 ran out in Egghead, I can see Naruto outlasing Luffy quite comfortably. His observation Haki is useless after his Gear 5 runs out since Luffy can't move at all. Considering that Luffy wasn't able to tell the real Kizaru apart from just a handful of clones, he is not going to be able to outlast like 2000 of Naruto's, much less find the real Naruto. Voting Naruto.
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none of them know me personally except damage wrath net shadow and a few others
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it doesn't tell luffy the overall future, it tells him what the opponent is about to do, nothing outside that. which is why he could be tagged by flampe or cp0.
The series doesn't imply what you are saying here for FS, it's more localized to the threat luffy/shanks is facing.
reflect what? when he is already tagged or erased with a sneak TSO giving to a clone.
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2025 and the op guys still think Haki and chakra can’t be equalized at all
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2025?
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am mostly referring to net and a few others(ghost, david, and others) when am talking about main naruto supporters here.
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Ofc only the op dudes will deny Haki can’t be verse equalized with chakra
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My guy, you don't even know about naruto's abilities... Saying they are similar to literal future sight and things alike
I've only watched the anime, so idk much about the manga and don't have the best recollection of all the moments but I at least understand most of the ability in naruto and how it functions (though mostly based on the anime
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Poor experience with the fanbase+the plot never hooking me at any point. I'm very picky about my anime/manga, and even One Piece doesn't hook me deep, I'm mainly pre-timeskip for where I like OP.
Keep in mind, this distaste spreads to Bleach and Dragon Ball as well, because the more anime and flashy something is chances are the less I'll like it. This is why Overlord has my attention when it's animation can be very shaky at times, to the point I picked up the LN, because the plot is solid. The LN blows the anime out of the water BTW.
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lol whatever man, now you are telling me i don't know about naruto.My guy, you don't even know about naruto's abilities... Seeing the are the similar to literal future sight and things alike
I've only watched the anime, so idk much about the manga and don't have the best recollection of all the moments but I at least understand most of the ability in naruto and how it functions (though mostly based on the anime
yet you have only watched the anime, and don't really have much of a recollection.
outside of this whole thread about Naruto vs Luffy, i encourage you to read Naruto it's pretty enjoyable, plus you can find out if am lying or not.
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nah... I'm not much of I reader, haven't even read one piece besides some fights, I just analyze it and get information from it
, I sometimes do the same for narutoMaybe in the future but not very likely I'll read the whole thing
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goated Overlord mention, i can understand that naruto might not hook everyone though, esepcially since i heard they were one of the most toxic bases around 2015-17s or something.
Bleach is goated as well but just like Naruto tend to also have some toxic people, you will even find some in OP as well.
But overall i get what you mean.
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That does not encapsulate the overall future though if you get what i mean?Then what is shanks seeing here, on the whole battlefield...?
That is like decent range though, but like i said this is Shanks not luffy who is much inferior in that regard.
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all future sight users sees the same types of future, the potency of that is only how far into the future one sees
Shanks saw all of that future in an instant btw by just using it once, now imagine him or luffy spamming that at all times, Luffy will always be ahead of Naruto
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Shanks can see longer than luffy so he is able to perceive more if you get what i mean?
potency also means the range of how much they can see(example entire dimensions's or planets or a countries fate), it's not only how far into the future they can see.
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Oh.
My.
God.
Chapter 860, Katakuri sees the future and sees a man's entire speech and sees exactly who he hits and who dies.
Chapter 860, Bege says that Katakuri is capable of seeing the near future.
Chapter 862, Katakuri randomly sees Pudding crying on the floor.
Chapter 862, Katakuri sees the priest shoot Sanji, and he sees Sanji dodge in the same breath.
Chapter 862, Katakuri sees the armada of Luffys bust out of the wedding cake.
Chapter 863, Katakuri sees Luffy and his target.
Chapter 864, Katakuri sees "a future of impending disaster".
Chapter 878, Katakuri sees Luffy's plan to drag him into the mirror dimension.
Chapter 939, Luffy sees the future of multiple enemies and directs Hyogoro to dodging them.
Chapter 1009, Luffy forsees the attack that'll blow off all the guys from the rooftop.
Vivre Card Databook translation.
Basic kenbunshoku haki tells the user what the opponent is about to do.
Future sight gives you future sight.
There is a limited amount of orbs, a future sight user isn't getting hit with a "sneak tso".
Stop downplaying haki then acting like a ball of destruction isn't getting sensed.
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Luffy range with obs Haki is over many tens of kms if not more currently.. So that doesn't really matter, only potency
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I'm the main guy in the Versus threads for the verse, but yeah sort of one of the main people folks go to with threads on the verse. Which obviously means I've seen the most... Wheatley-brained individuals arguing about things laid out in painstaking detail that go against what they're saying.
Oh every series' fanbase has toxic people, I can usually look past it, but if it's a toxic fanbase and the series doesn't hook me I'm just gonna put two and two together and dip. I'm a fan of series like Warcraft and Warhammer so like... different ballgame at that point.
This does not get me harder than Terminator Armour.
This does.
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There will not be a single action Naruto does that Luffy does not sense. This is nothing for Luffy.
Naruto is not touching him.
Naruto is not touching him.
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You still aren't getting what am saying he see the near future localized towards his sphere, he doesn't see a future of some unknown random dying somewhere in the east blue.
Potency dictates the range of what you can see and how far you can see, we have seen Shanks range and 10sec sight which is pretty impressive. Luffy is much inferior to this so it can't be used to guage luffy.
Like i said again when the user focuses and hyperfocuses on what they are seeing it's gives a sort of tunnel-vision that drowns out anything he isn't focusing on case in point flampe and cp0. 2000+ Naruto's with immense range are definitely wearing down luffy, his Haki gets drained, so does G5, and he eventually gets tagged by AOE's or a stray TSO.
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Looks like cod zombies (idk why I can't reply anymore again 
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Luffy is not covering all that unfortunately like i said he is out of his depths against Naruto's clones and versatility.
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Nobody is saying that Luffy has clairvoyance of random places in the world, he sees the area around him.
Luffy has not shown anything saying he is far inferior to Shanks whatsoever.
It does not give any sort of tunnel vision, this is fully your headcanon way of trying to explain the few times Luffy was tagged
Luffy is reading his mind, seeing his future actions, and dodging everything he can do. He is not getting caught off guard by any means
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