Molecular lvl resistance to dura neg > Dura neg Internals
His NPI comes from the fact that he grabbed his soul.
He doesn't know how the technique works.
Pain grabbed his soul by grabbing the cloak. If the cloak could stop stuff like that then his soul would've never been affected by that, but we can see that although Naruto can grab intangible things, he cannot stop intangible things from passing through him.
This is quite literally how quite literally all types of phasing works
All because you can interact with intangible things doesn't mean that you are passively able to stop intangible things.
Naruto has
bijuu spam and that can be reflected.
molecular DN res means you can stop attacks from bypassing durability Via molecular attack. Dura neg internal means a physical attack bypasses your organs no matter what armor you have. These are two completely different things.
And Kurama chakra, and other Bijuu’s chakra, and elements like water and fire, and spacial portals.
He doesn’t need to understand its mechanics bc he can do it whenever and has shown the ability to do so
That Pains ability is the ability to grab one’s soul in general, which exists in an esoteric non specific part of the body and is not at all the same thing as Luffy forcing energy into someone’s body.
Phasing on wiki is turning matter briefly intangible.
That’s how chakra works, there’s no grab chakra jutsu,
I mean that’s mechanically how it works.
There's really no difference except the fact Naruto resist it on a deeper lvl than the Dura Neg can reach. Also, molecules are also physical so that point is really void
They aren't.
Luffy resists soul damage so this is a non-issue. Make relevant arguments please.
not all types of intangibility are the same. all because you have elemental intan or immaterial intan doesn't mean you're good with phasing, this is why we mark them differently
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Some intan ≠ all intan
Buso is not normally intangible. This is why you can blast people with it but it takes effort to actually let it phase through people.
how you leaning and you ain't even look at the ar-14 pages already.
Leaning toward Naruto.
Even if they cannot be equalized Luffy still gets damaged by TSO. The TSO erasure is not just limited to chakra techniques only
it needs to show to work on a different power system before you come here and say it can erase that damn power system
Show me TSOs erasing anything similar to Haki. I'll give you a hint, you can't.
My brother, they are two entirely different kinds of duranegs.
Every single time besides G5, when Kaido knocked Luffy down he was out and needed time or assstance before making a comeback that doesn’t say much
Luffy grows while a battle gets stronger assuming he isn’t knocked out or gassed first, Naruto always has the option to get stronger via more nature energy. One is a more readily accessible amp.
Katakuri is a tickle monster without his spear.
They can’t that’s very arguable if we’re being generous.
He’d be erased in constant why would turning it into a rubber ball of death change anything?
And Naruto uses Boil Release or Nature energy to get even stronger.
Do we even know is Kenbun would be able to sus out the real Naruto given they all have minds a life force, and are pieces of the real Naruto (like a clone of Naruto having a soul to soul convo with Kurama when they first met Madara)
None of that is getting reflected with a 2x to 6x gap that can grow with more ampsSo what else does he have? Tso can be defended against.
Could you explain why?
Haki is not a spiritual/life force energy. I don't know who lied and told you that, but you need to find and sue them.
Chakra is the energy formed from 2 types of energies, from the cellular energy (your body) and your mental energy (mind/soul). The mental energy is from the mind's consciousness. It is literally energy from your metaphysical mind, which grows through studying, meditation, training and experience.
Are you telling me that someone resisting like heart poisoning on a molecular lvl would die to dura negating poison simply targetting the same heart on a surface/regular lvl?
Haki is not physical matter.
Spirit (Soul) ≠ Spirit (Attitude)
someone resisting a needle piercing them cannot resist somebody phasing into their body
Advanced Armament Haki is both physical and spiritual
You know that Advanced Haki Emission has shown the ability to flow through Haki coatings... right? Even if Haki and Chakra are equated, Naruto being coated in "Haki" doesn't mean it can block out Advanced Haki Emission. You have a fundamental misunderstanding in Haki and its applications so it's very bizarre to me how you're speaking as some sort of authority on the topic.
Furthermore, chakra is a physical thing existing in a person’s body. Humans have specific channels that chakra flows through and can impact their chakra levels if those specific parts of the body are damaged. Along with also amping their chakra via releasing specific pressure chakra gates in their body.
It's neither.
Chakra exists in Edo Tensei who have no physical cells and in chakra spirits who are only soul and mind, not to mention soul and chakra are often colloquilsed with each other so that’s just not the case
All of those things exist in naruto
There’s literally no distinction outside of trying to make a distinction bc Haki is only “ambition or will” and Yin Chakra is mind/soul.
