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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Zabazab said:
The new episode re-igniting Ryu output debates, just the same repeating arguments (partially the fault of bad TLs).

The truth is: Full Power Sukuna's Output > Ryu's Ouput > 16F Sukuna's Output.
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*The truth is: Full Power Sukuna's Output > 16F Sukuna's Output > Ryu's Ouput.
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Anonymous_Learner said:
*The truth is: Full Power Sukuna's Output > 16F Sukuna's Output > Ryu's Ouput.
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I am aware of this, which is the reason his output would be lower than full power Sukuna's. This doesn't change the statement that Ryu's output is the highest among the Culling Game players.
 
Zabazab said:
The new episode re-igniting Ryu output debates, just the same repeating arguments (partially the fault of bad TLs).

The truth is: Full Power Sukuna's Output > Ryu's Ouput > 16F Sukuna's Output.
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Dawg we are not doing this again we already told you why that's not the case 😭 . 15F Sukuna clears the verse in output other than Gojo, Shinjuku Maho, Blackhole and Perfect Sphere. (And Dabura ofc but I wasn't counting Modulo)
 
Maitreya12 said:
I’m fine with it only scaling to like Dabura and Yuji and stuff, still means the verse gets upgraded to island level 😈
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It should still scale to Sukuna and Gojo, the arguments against it aren't convincing at all and rely on people ignoring how CE reinforcement works and how MAHORAGA himself works.
 
Rodriiogo said:
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Naoya (Even Curse) not even top 15 inv btw, bum.
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"Projection Sorcery makes blitzing significantly easier than raw speed. At Mach 3 (1029 m/s), using 24 frames per second means Naoya’s position effectively "updates" once every ~43 meters from someone's perspective. Reacting to that is fundamentally different from reacting to conventional movement speed, it is borderline impossible without precognition."
Can you share top 15(preferably without Modulo)
 
Rodriiogo said:
It should still scale to Sukuna and Gojo, the arguments against it aren't convincing at all and rely on people ignoring how CE reinforcement works and how MAHORAGA himself works.
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I don’t think it should scale to them really. Sukuna was just the baseline assumption Jujutsu society used as a baseline for Dabura’s strength without really knowing anything else about him. What Dabura shows beyond that isn’t an upscale for Sukuna but more Dabura going beyond what Jujutsu society first assumed his strength was.

And comparing Mahoraga’s doesn’t really help either because Yuka’s Mahoraga is death binding vow amped so it’d naturally be a lot stronger than normal and even comparing the performances, Dabura’s attacks did significantly more damage to Mahoraga than Sukuna’s did even after adapting.
 
Rodriiogo said:
Dawg we are not doing this again
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Your fight is with Gege, 16F Sukuna is a Culling Game player and Ryu has the highest output among all Culling Game players. Supported by 16F Sukuna being unable to lethally injure Ryu without Cleave.
 
Qurbonboev said:
"Projection Sorcery makes blitzing significantly easier than raw speed. At Mach 3 (1029 m/s), using 24 frames per second means Naoya’s position effectively "updates" once every ~43 meters from someone's perspective. Reacting to that is fundamentally different from reacting to conventional movement speed, it is borderline impossible without precognition."
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And? Say one issue with it rn?

Qurbonboev said:
Can you share top 15(preferably without Modulo)
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Off the top of my head and not thinking much about it
1. Sukuna
2. Gojo
3. Kenjaku
4. Yorozu (Bug Armor)
5. Yuta
6. Yuji
7. Yuki (Might be lower)
8. Toji
9. Maki
10. Kashimo
11. Uraume
12. Hakari
13. Ryu
14. Uro
Dk about 15 off the top of my head icl prob Kurourushi

Oh yea if you include mahoraga it just ends at yoru since he'd be third LOL

Maitreya12 said:
I don’t think it should scale to them really. Sukuna was just the baseline assumption Jujutsu society used as a baseline for Dabura’s strength without really knowing anything else about him. What Dabura shows beyond that isn’t an upscale for Sukuna but more Dabura going beyond what Jujutsu society first assumed his strength was.
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First off, saying the Jujutsu Society didn't know anything else yet gave him Dabura's threat level is just assuming they are stupid for no reason? Why would they do that? You know chapter 2 already clarifies that the aliens have been on USA for some time before going to Japan right? You think ZERO Jujutsu Society member saw Dabura even once and were unable to measure his strength in some way? You actually think the Jujutsu Society would give someone the sukuna level threat sign out of aura????? And second off, regardless if you think they are unreliable for 0 reason, Yuji and Tengen/Narrator confirm their statements as true in the promo guides that are narrating what happened? This is in the OP of said thread, alongside the entire narrative that also supports that conclusion. Why would Yuji and Tengen say that if they (Jujutsu Society) were wrong? And The fact you think Mr.Yuji "Latent potential equal to Sukuna" Itadori gapped Sukuna so much that they arent even comparable (regardless if you think he's stronger or not) is pure vibe-scaling, 0 justification. Yuji says he could handle Dabura even after the light-speed kick by the way and the entire fight of Dabura VS Mahoraga got recorded by Ui Ui's crows just like Sukuna VS Gojo did and there's 0 showing of anything changing in his threat level with the Mahoraga that fought Sukuna and Gojo being straight up compared as the same that fought Dabura. The fact you think no one would point out how Dabura and Mahorga were thousands of times stronger than the previous fight is utterly insane to me. Or Yuji just being in confident in the same way... please let's just use common sense and think about what Gege meant.

Maitreya12 said:
And comparing Mahoraga’s doesn’t really help either because Yuka’s Mahoraga is death binding vow amped so it’d naturally be a lot stronger than normal and even comparing the performances, Dabura’s attacks did significantly more damage to Mahoraga than Sukuna’s did even after adapting.
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I didn't compare Mahoraga to anything, I said people don't get how Mahoraga works because they think Dabura doing more damage with something Mahoraga has not adapted to means he got boosted, that's why I also mentioned CE reinforcement. It's the same type of people that if Chapter 223 was released today would try to say Sukuna scales to Hollow Purple cause he was able to stop it via reinforcing his arms despite Holow Purple being AT LEAST over 2.5x stronger than Gojo and Sukuna himself lol (via being stronger than Black Flash) or the fact that Mahoraga who was blocking black flashes from Gojo got vaporized (even the sword that hurt and blocked gojo's BF) by the same hollow purple that didn't vaporize Sukuna and he survived. (SPOILER: Because he hadn't adapted to it and Mahoraga's durability isnt that linear)

Zabazab said:
Your fight is with Gege, 16F Sukuna is a Culling Game player and Ryu has the highest output among all Culling Game players. Supported by 16F Sukuna being unable to lethally injure Ryu without Cleave.
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Everyone already talked to you about this man, seriously, it's literally not supported at all and just straight up contradicted by 10% Output Sukuna still putting BTA on Awakened Maki and 1, Not being lethally injured by Dismantles doesn't support you having higher output than Sukuna, both Unawakened Yuji and Shinjuku Yuta were durable enough to not be lethally injured yet a EVEN WEAKER Sukuna than the one they took dismantles from was still superior to them in output.
And 2...Cleave is still part of Sukuna's output...? What?
 
Rodriiogo said:
First off, saying the Jujutsu Society didn't know anything else yet gave him Dabura's threat level is just assuming they are stupid for no reason? Why would they do that?
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Because they can still feel the aura and presence of a character and assign a threat level based on that. Like how Jogo could immediately recognize the danger when he was in Sukuna’s presence.

Why would that make them stupid?
Rodriiogo said:
You know chapter 2 already clarifies that the aliens have been on USA for some time before going to Japan right? You think ZERO Jujutsu Society member saw Dabura even once and were unable to measure his strength in some way?
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Yes because it was literally established in chapter 2 that they didn’t know anything about the aliens or even spoke to them before since they were shocked by the fact that they could speak Japanese and even questioned if they spoke English in the US. Why would they question that if they were already there with them?

Also it was established in chapter 2 that this was the first time they were meeting Dabura.
Rodriiogo said:
You actually think the Jujutsu Society would give someone the sukuna level threat sign out of aura?????
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Yes. You can literally feel the danger and threat level someone imposes based on aura. This is an established fact of JJK.
Rodriiogo said:
And second off, regardless if you think they are unreliable for 0 reason, Yuji and Tengen/Narrator confirm their statements as true in the promo guides that are narrating what happened...? This is in the OP of said thread.
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Promotional videos don’t really work as strong evidence and some of the statements don’t even aid in the claim. Like one of them is just Yuji saying “Jujutsu high classified Dabura as a Sukuna-level threat” which goes back to what I previously said about Jujutsu higher ups using Sukuna as their baseline assumption for Dabura’s strength.
Rodriiogo said:
Why would they say this if they were wrong?
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Because they’re hiding Dabura’s true capabilities from the audience but still want to build hype towards his character.
Rodriiogo said:
And The fact you think Mr.Yuji "Latent potential equal to Sukuna" Itadori gapped Sukuna so much that they arent even comparable (regardless if you think he's stronger or not) is pure vibe-scaling, 0 justification. Yuji says he could handle Sukuna even after the light-speed kick by the way
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Yuji can be however much stronger than Sukuna as he likes, it’s not contradictory. It’s been decades since the main series, Yuji saying he can handle Dabura is justification in of itself and his casual dismantle dwarfed literally anything Sukuna was shown to do so again it doesn’t contradict anything.
Rodriiogo said:
and the entire fight of Dabura VS Mahoraga got recorded by Ui Ui's crows just like Sukuna VS Gojo did and there's 0 showing of anything changing in his threat level with the Mahoraga that fought Sukuna and Gojo being straight up compared as the same that fought Dabura.
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Ui Ui’s crows don’t prove they’re on the same level since we don’t see what Ui Ui actually managed to record and there was no comparison between the Mahoraga Gojo fought and the one Dabura fought. A civilian spectator was just commenting on the fact that they previously thought Mahoraga was dead but has no suddenly shown up again.

Rodriiogo said:
I didn't compare Mahoraga to anything, I said people don't get how Mahoraga works because they think Dabura doing more damage with something Mahoraga has not adapted to means he got boosted,
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Dabura’s done more damage even to an equivalently adapted Mahoraga than Sukuna as well. A casual attack from Mahoraga completely vaporized the whole top half of a Mahoraga that had already gone through 2 spins of adaptation, and 2 spins of adaptation was enough for Mahoraga to withstand 15f Sukuna’s Malevolent Shrine.

It mostly has to do with strength though. If Mahoraga is boosted then it’s therefore naturally much stronger and more durable than normal is the point.
 
But to be honest
One can know one's output, volume and efficiency from just sensing it

They don't really need to fight a person to know that
So what Rodrii said does make sense
 
I think characters need to at least have some knowledge on the person and their abilities in order to make an accurate assessment of their capabilities. Especially when their techniques are involved, otherwise their assessment is open to change based on new information that they previously didn’t have coming to light.

For example, Yorozu has an application of her ability that allows for high 3-A AP, but this would never be known unless that specific knowledge of her is available. Or Yuki as another example, Kenjaku by virtue of not knowing her technique had absolutely no clue how strong Yuki was and tried to keep her at a distance only for her to straight up one shot his special grade cursed spirit.
 
Maitreya12 said:
I think characters need to at least have some knowledge on the person and their abilities in order to make an accurate assessment of their capabilities. Especially when their techniques are involved, otherwise their assessment is open to change based on new information that they previously didn’t have coming to light.
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All that is needed is to prove that Dabura's stats/output ~ Sukuna's, which we have enough statements for, we do not need to decide who would win 1v1
 
Maitreya12 said:
Because they can still feel the aura and presence of a character and assign a threat level based on that. Like how Jogo could immediately recognize the danger when he was in Sukuna’s presence.
Yes. You can literally feel the danger and threat level someone imposes based on aura. This is an established fact of JJK.
Maitreya12 said:
Why would that make them stupid?
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"feels the aura"
Anyways it isn't always the case but the fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter (haha) because of everything else. But just to answer, they'd be stupid because they quite literally have a recording to measure Sukuna's power and compare it to Dabura instead of just... aura scaling.

Maitreya12 said:
Yes because it was literally established in chapter 2 that they didn’t know anything about the aliens or even spoke to them before since they were shocked by the fact that they could speak Japanese and even questioned if they spoke English in the US. Why would they question that if they were already there with them?
Also it was established in chapter 2 that this was the first time they were meeting Dabura.
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That was the Japanese government. Not the Jujutsu Society/Higher Ups. This is just a lie

Maitreya12 said:
Promotional videos don’t really work as strong evidence and some of the statements don’t even aid in the claim. Like one of them is just Yuji saying “Jujutsu high classified Dabura as a Sukuna-level threat” which goes back to what I previously said about Jujutsu higher ups using Sukuna as their baseline assumption for Dabura’s strength.
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And you think Yuji wouldn't correct them? The Yuji that has been able to tell people's strength since Shibuya?
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The fact you're streching this much just to not scale Dabura actually tells alot

Maitreya12 said:
Because they’re hiding Dabura’s true capabilities from the audience but still want to build hype towards his character.
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Ah yes, TENGEN, decided to LIE to the audience, for no reason. Gege decided to build hype towards the character by saying hes equal to sukuna instead of just saying hes stronger which would build more hype yes yes. Man, what.

Maitreya12 said:
Yuji can be however much stronger than Sukuna as he likes, it’s not contradictory. It’s been decades since the main series, Yuji saying he can handle Dabura is justification in of itself and his casual dismantle dwarfed literally anything Sukuna was shown to do so again it doesn’t contradict anything.
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Except it is absurd to claim that since his latent potential just grew through thousands of times just because... he got old.
"dwarfed literally anything sukuna has shown" and it was a dust cloud of grade 3-4 curses dying, crine.
Yuji has 0 feats above Sukuna level, he has higher range and that's it.

Maitreya12 said:
Ui Ui’s crows don’t prove they’re on the same level since we don’t see what Ui Ui actually managed to record and there was no comparison between the Mahoraga Gojo fought and the one Dabura fought. A civilian spectator was just commenting on the fact that they previously thought Mahoraga was dead but has no suddenly shown up again.
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Re-read the point, "there's 0 showing of anything changing in his threat level" and they would indeed realise if Mahoraga was thousands of times stronger than before in Shinjuku in the same way that normal humans realised Gojo's output level via recordings aswell. And why would Ui Ui stop recording at any point...? We see that the intent is that he recorded everything and was even smiling at it with Usami even saying he just records whatever he wants at this point.

Maitreya12 said:
Dabura’s done more damage even to an equivalently adapted Mahoraga than Sukuna as well. A casual attack from Mahoraga completely vaporized the whole top half of a Mahoraga that had already gone through 2 spins of adaptation, and 2 spins of adaptation was enough for Mahoraga to withstand 15f Sukuna’s Malevolent Shrine.
It mostly has to do with strength though. If Mahoraga is boosted then it’s therefore naturally much stronger and more durable than normal is the point.
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That is indeed not how it works, see, this is what I mean by no one actually read how Mahoraga works.
Mahoraga adapts to the techniques in specific that he is in contact with. He adapted to shrine so shrine stopped working. Mahoraga had NOT ADAPTED TO DABURA'S PHYSICALS, that's why Dabura even notes he only realised how fast he adapts to them after it. Dabura knew his technique was useless now indepdent of the fact that it was stronger than his own physicals so he goes for physicals instead since he didn't expect Mahoraga to adapt that quickly. It's the SAME REASON, an adapted Mahoraga in Shinjuku got completely vaporized by Hollow Purple despite adapting to Black Flashes from Gojo, while Sukuna was obviously below Black Flashes from Gojo by at least a 2.5x gap (black flash multiplier). So Mahoraga had adapted to something 2.5x Sukuna's physicals and still got vaporized by something that Sukuna survived... do you genuinely not realise how Mahoraga works from here? (Not even touching the fact that Mahoraga gets damaged by regular Gojo punches)

Let's assume the output needed to one shot mahoraga is "60"
Mahoraga can adapt to X Technique that can go up to 100 output because the guy decided to attack him with the same technique but with 50 output before, so now even if he increases to 100 output, it wont work.

This does NOT mean Mahoraga's value one shot changed.
If an attack with 70 output hits Mahoraga, it'd still one shot him regardless. Why do you think he was able to adapt to A HIGH 3-A ATTACK yet would still be vaporized by a 6-C attack (Hollow Purple).

Basically Mahoraga simply hadn't adapted yet, Dabura's physicals, ESPECIALLY his durability did NOT change.
Mahoraga's durability is not linear.

Maitreya12 said:
I think characters need to at least have some knowledge on the person and their abilities in order to make an accurate assessment of their capabilities. Especially when their techniques are involved, otherwise their assessment is open to change based on new information that they previously didn’t have coming to light.

For example, Yorozu has an application of her ability that allows for high 3-A AP, but this would never be known unless that specific knowledge of her is available. Or Yuki as another example, Kenjaku by virtue of not knowing her technique had absolutely no clue how strong Yuki was and tried to keep her at a distance only for her to straight up one shot his special grade cursed spirit.
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This is irrelevant for the thread by the way since the thread is simply saying Gojo and Sukuna scale to Dabura in durability. They don't scale to the light-speed kick itself in any way from what we know. No one is denying that you can say the light speed kick > Gojokuna. It's just that Dabura's durability is relative to them since his CT does not increase his durability, so the knowledge of techniques is pointless. Also... tengen/narrator knew about his techniques even before he accelerated... still said hes a Sukuna level threat. I want you to please justify why would the narrator just lie? The whole "to build hype" doesn't work cause saying he's stronger would just.. build more hype? lol
 
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Rodriiogo said:
Anyways it isn't always the case but the fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter (haha) because of everything else. But just to answer, they'd be stupid because they quite literally have a recording to measure Sukuna's power and compare it to Dabura instead of just... aura scaling.
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Except what are they comparing and measuring Sukuna’s level of strength to? What show of power has Dabura given Jujutsu high to provide them an accurate read on his capabilities? They can only aura scale because that’s all they have to go off of.
Rodriiogo said:
That was the Japanese government. Not the Jujutsu Society/Higher Ups. This is just a lie
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No that was Jujutsu Society. Usami is literally a sorcerer and jujutsu society and the government are linked now in the time of the Modulo. What lie lmao.
Rodriiogo said:
And you think Yuji wouldn't correct them? The Yuji that has been able to tell people's strength since Shibuya?
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Yes because Yuji has literally been staying away from Jujutsu society and even specifically didn’t give them advice he knew would happen lol.
Rodriiogo said:
Ah yes, TENGEN, decided to LIE to the audience, for no reason. Gege decided to build hype towards the character by saying hes equal to sukuna instead of just saying hes stronger which would build more hype yes yes. Man, what.
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You’re talking about promotional material to build hype towards the audience. Yes that’s exactly what that’s for. Gege also tried to build hype towards Yuta by saying he could handle 15f Sukuna. I guess YUJI decided to LIE to the audience for NO REASON too huh?
Rodriiogo said:
Except it is absurd to claim that since his latent potential just grew through thousands of times just because... he got old.
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An appeal to incredulity isn’t an argument, it’s a fallacy. Yuji training for decades is reasonable enough explanation for how he got so strong regardless of if you agree with it or not.
Rodriiogo said:
"dwarfed literally anything sukuna has shown" and it was a dust cloud of grade 3-4 curses dying, crine.
Yuji has 0 feats above Sukuna level, he has higher range and that's it.
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Uh huh now show me Sukuna killing any grade curses whatsoever from several many kilometers away. Let alone however god knows how many cursed spirits Yuji must’ve annihilated to make a “dust cloud” that big.

For reference, Gojo’s Hollow Purple traveling less than 4 kilometers made it lose nearly 80% of its output. Let alone a casual dismantle, so yeah it’s a great feat.

That feat is already shown to be above what Sukuna has ever demonstrated before.
Rodriiogo said:
Re-read the point, "there's 0 showing of anything changing in his threat level" and they would indeed realise if Mahoraga was thousands of times stronger than before in Shinjuku in the same way that normal humans realised Gojo's output level via recordings aswell. And why would Ui Ui stop recording at any point...? We see that the intent is that he recorded everything and was even smiling at it with Usami even saying he just records whatever he wants at this point.
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Dabura’s light speed kick is a showing in of itself that directly changes his threat level. Reread what I’m saying. Also literally the person watching that recording was shocked by the claim of why Gojo could do. An it’s not about Ui-Ui stopping to record but rather him may be being unable to record parts of the fight like Dabura’s relativistic speeds for example as that could be far to fast for him to catch. You have no idea because we don’t see Ui UI’s video so we can’t say there’s an accurate showing of the fight.
Rodriiogo said:
That is indeed not how it works, see, this is what I mean by no one actually read how Mahoraga works.
Mahoraga adapts to the techniques in specific that he is in contact with. He adapted to shrine so shrine stopped working. Mahoraga had NOT ADAPTED TO DABURA'S PHYSICALS, that's why Dabura even notes he only realised how fast he adapts to them after it. Dabura knew his technique was useless now indepdent of the fact that it was stronger than his own physicals so he goes for physicals instead since he didn't expect Mahoraga to adapt that quickly. It's the SAME REASON, an adapted Mahoraga in Shinjuku got completely vaporized by Hollow Purple despite adapting to Black Flashes from Gojo, while Sukuna was obviously below Black Flashes from Gojo by at least a 2.5x gap (black flash multiplier). So Mahoraga had adapted to something 2.5x Sukuna's physicals and still got vaporized by something that Sukuna survived... do you genuinely not realise how Mahoraga works from here? (Not even touching the fact that Mahoraga gets damaged by regular Gojo punches)

Let's assume the output needed to one shot mahoraga is "60"
Mahoraga can adapt to X Technique that can go up to 100 output because the guy decided to attack him with the same technique but with 50 output before, so now even if he increases to 100 output, it wont work.
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Literally nothing you said here has anything to do with what I said in the section you quoted of me. Reread what I said, you’re arguing with ghosts right now.
Rodriiogo said:
This does NOT mean Mahoraga's value one shot changed.
If an attack with 70 output hits Mahoraga, it'd still one shot him regardless. Why do you think he was able to adapt to A HIGH 3-A ATTACK yet would still be vaporized by a 6-C attack (Hollow Purple).
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But Mahoraga’s value to one shot is dependent on which Mahoraga we’re talking about as well. For example, if an attack with 70 outputs is enough to one shot Megumi’s Mahoraga, that does not mean it’s enough to one shot Sukuna’s Mahoraga in return.
Rodriiogo said:
Basically Mahoraga simply hadn't adapted yet, Dabura's physicals, ESPECIALLY his durability did NOT change.
Mahoraga's durability is not linear.
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Dabura’s durability and overall stats DO change. We directly witness this in fact with Dabura breaking Mahoraga’s sword that was just cutting him with the palm of his hand.
Rodriiogo said:
This is irrelevant for the thread by the way since the thread is simply saying Gojo and Sukuna scale to Dabura in durability. They don't scale to the light-speed kick itself in any way from what we know. No one is denying that you can say the light speed kick > Gojokuna. It's just that Dabura's durability is relative to them since his CT does not increase his durability, so the knowledge of techniques is pointless.
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Yeah and I’m saying they don’t scale to him there either. Dabura applying his CT to himself has a direct impact on his stats as well as his own warrior mentality pushing him into an awakened state.
Rodriiogo said:
Also... tengen/narrator knew about his techniques even before he accelerated... still said hes a Sukuna level threat. I want you to please justify why would the narrator just lie? The whole "to build hype" doesn't work cause saying he's stronger would just.. build more hype? lol
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No they wouldn’t actually because again the light speed kick is Dabura specifically applying himself in order to reach the realm of the warriors which is something he hadn’t done before. It wouldn’t be considered until Dabura actually developed that warrior mentality. Also that’s promotional material not direct manga evidence.
 
Rodriiogo said:
That is indeed not how it works, see, this is what I mean by no one actually read how Mahoraga works.
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I assume OP was referring to the fact that Yuka Maho was likely boosted by Death Binding Vow, thus making it much stronger than usual.

Anonymous_Learner said:
You mean the guy who thinks Yuta can kill 15F sukuna?
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I wonder, whether Yuji here is victim of retcon. If you based analysis on Gojo performance against Special grades (he is much stronger, but he is clearly not several tiers and blitz above them), you would def think that Yuta has a chance against 15F
 
Qurbonboev said:
I wonder, whether Yuji here is victim of retcon. If you based analysis on Gojo performance against Special grades (he is much stronger, but he is clearly not several tiers and blitz above them), you would def think that Yuta has a chance against 15F
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These are my thoughts
 
Can't see anything but divine flame and Purple leeching off that kick tbh, given how it is intrinsically tied to speed neither Gojo nor Sukuna possess.
 
AguilaR202 said:
Can't see anything but divine flame and Purple leeching off that kick tbh, given how it is intrinsically tied to speed neither Gojo nor Sukuna possess.
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It’s about scaling their durability to Dabura’s which then chain scale to their AP since they can trade blows with each other.
 
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