Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

[Hecky2222]

Fujitaka didn't say he transcends concept of dimensions though. Q/A states "He can ignore concept of dimensions" not that he is superior to them anyway. Not like MGK doesn't have this level vague statements(which are useless as single arguments). As for Graham he is also not just nothingness though, he is beyond material nothingness just as you claim for Yogurt but with extra ad infinitum layers, so not rlly helps against him

 

[ElPapucho80]

Yeah I think so

They exist in Misfit

 

[ElPapucho80]

I said what I had to say, and that is the end of the matter.

If you are talking about who is stronger between them directly, then I said that Yogiri is stronger than Anos, regardless of all VSBW standards or any other standards, so I said what I had to say.

The author stated in his words that Yogiri transcends the concept of dimensions and that Yogiri is the end, and that there is nothing after him because he is the end, and he is not nothingness but the end beyond which nothing exists.

As the author also explained, regardless of the type of character Yogiri faces or any character in the world of anime, he will win, and he mentioned this repeatedly. Regardless of the type of being you are, you will lose against Yogiri.

If we are talking about power, then Yogiri is the strongest and will always remain the strongest, and will remain the strongest across all social media. You can search for yourself (all the famous videos and comparisons that have interactions of 80k and above, and huge engagements between Anos and Yogiri Yogiri always wins). So I can say that I am truly comfortable with this matter because there are many people who understand this, and therefore I will not worry if you do not agree with me or if anyone else here does not agree with me. I am also happy that people outside this site do not care about the rankings here; they know the truth and know that most of the rankings are not correct because of the heavy standards that reduce the level of the characters’ power. I do not mean any offense, but this is the reality, because the standards here are exaggerated to an unbelievable degree, to the point that you feel as if you are not discussing a fictional work but something real.

FAX FAX. That's why Yogi is tier 0 here

 

[RemaxG1]

I said what I had to say, and that is the end of the matter.

If you are talking about who is stronger between them directly, then I said that Yogiri is stronger than Anos, regardless of all VSBW standards or any other standards, so I said what I had to say.

That's just your OWN personal opinion not in a general sense pal.

The author stated in his words that Yogiri transcends the concept of dimensions and that Yogiri is the end, and that there is nothing after him because he is the end, and he is not nothingness but the end beyond which nothing exists.

"It was a dead end. The destination of all fates, beyond which there is nothing. The end of everything in human form. It is precisely because it is the end that it stands until the end. No one can go further than it. Before this thing, fate, the plot, and the like must be a joke.

それ は 袋小路 だっ た。 　 全て の 運命 の 行き着く 先 で あり、 そこ から 先 には 何 も ない。 全て の 終わり が そこ で 人 の 形 を 取っ て い た。 　 それ は 終焉 で ある から こそ、 最後 まで 立っ て いる 者 だ。 何者 も それ より 先 に 行く こと など でき は し ない。 　 そんな 者 を 相手 に、 運命 だの、 筋書き だの 戯れ言 にも なら ない"

So now please do enlighten me on how he transcends Conventional Nothingness when this scan literally destroys your argument? If you understand sentencing in English Grammar then I need not explain myself "It was a dead end. The destination of all fates, beyond which there is nothing." What part of this statement screams "Oh my God Yogiri transcends Nothingness because I am the end of all things so nothing exists before me" LMFAO

By the way this was the MTL folks liked to use and STILL use...

"It was a dead end. The inevitable destination of all fates, beyond which there was nothing. The end of all things in human form. An embodiment of nonexistence that would overcome all others, something that no one could ever hope to surpass. Before this thing, the machinations of Fate were nothing more than a crude joke."

As the author also explained, regardless of the type of character Yogiri faces or any character in the world of anime, he will win, and he mentioned this repeatedly. Regardless of the type of being you are, you will lose against Yogiri.

Y'know you should be careful on what you say cuz some words would come back to bit you. Here's a post made by the Author of I.D

たのですが、それを再度説明しただけの話ですので蛇足というタイトルになりました。他の作品のなんちゃらと戦ったらどうなるの？というのは実によく聞かれる話ではあるのですが、設定に従う以上は絶対に夜霧に勝てません。もちろん、設定を無視すれば勝てるのですが、根幹となる設定を無視して強さを比べることに意味があるんだろうか？とは思っています。
Ｖロードの元ネタは武神来往道なのですが、今となっては知らない人多数だろうなぁとは思っています。

Translation;

"I've said many times before that no matter what kind of being you are, you can never defeat Yogiri in the story's setting, but this is just a re-explanation of that, so I gave it the title "superfluous". I'm often asked, "What would happen if you fought something from another work?", but as long as you follow the setting, you can't beat Yogiri. Of course, you can win if you ignore the setting, but is there any point in comparing strengths while ignoring the core setting? I wonder. The original source of V Road is the Road to the Gods of War, but I think that there are many people who don't know about it these days."

So basically IF and only IF Anos ignores the core of Plot or the rules of the verse Anos can neg diff him. So stop the cap, I've seen too many of it today.

If we are talking about power, then Yogiri is the strongest and will always remain the strongest, and will remain the strongest across all social media. You can search for yourself (all the famous videos and comparisons that have interactions of 80k and above, and huge engagements between Anos and Yogiri Yogiri always wins)

Ad Populum fallacy...Wow a world right?

So I can say that I am truly comfortable with this matter because there are many people who understand this,

I can assure you over 80% of those guys haven't read the light novel or do not know nor understand the Cosmology of I.D. These are the kinds of people I deal with and GOD I'm tired it.

therefore I will not worry if you do not agree with me or if anyone else here does not agree with me. I am also happy that people outside this site do not care about the rankings here; they know the truth and know that most of the rankings are not correct because of the heavy standards that reduce the level of the characters’ power. I do not mean any offense, but this is the reality, because the standards here are exaggerated to an unbelievable degree, to the point that you feel as if you are not discussing a fictional work but something real.

Sure that's on you bro, you can wank how ever much you desire. I mean it's a free world right?

 

[ElPapucho80]

That's just your OWN personal opinion not in a general sense pal.

"It was a dead end. The destination of all fates, beyond which there is nothing. The end of everything in human form. It is precisely because it is the end that it stands until the end. No one can go further than it. Before this thing, fate, the plot, and the like must be a joke.

それ は 袋小路 だっ た。 　 全て の 運命 の 行き着く 先 で あり、 そこ から 先 には 何 も ない。 全て の 終わり が そこ で 人 の 形 を 取っ て い た。 　 それ は 終焉 で ある から こそ、 最後 まで 立っ て いる 者 だ。 何者 も それ より 先 に 行く こと など でき は し ない。 　 そんな 者 を 相手 に、 運命 だの、 筋書き だの 戯れ言 にも なら ない"

So now please do enlighten me on how he transcends Conventional Nothingness when this scan literally destroys your argument? If you understand sentencing in English Grammar then I need not explain myself "It was a dead end. The destination of all fates, beyond which there is nothing." What part of this statement screams "Oh my God Yogiri transcends Nothingness because I am the end of all things so nothing exists before me" LMFAO

By the way this was the MTL folks liked to use and STILL use...

"It was a dead end. The inevitable destination of all fates, beyond which there was nothing. The end of all things in human form. An embodiment of nonexistence that would overcome all others, something that no one could ever hope to surpass. Before this thing, the machinations of Fate were nothing more than a crude joke."


Y'know you should be careful on what you say cuz some words would come back to bit you. Here's a post made by the Author of I.D

たのですが、それを再度説明しただけの話ですので蛇足というタイトルになりました。他の作品のなんちゃらと戦ったらどうなるの？というのは実によく聞かれる話ではあるのですが、設定に従う以上は絶対に夜霧に勝てません。もちろん、設定を無視すれば勝てるのですが、根幹となる設定を無視して強さを比べることに意味があるんだろうか？とは思っています。
Ｖロードの元ネタは武神来往道なのですが、今となっては知らない人多数だろうなぁとは思っています。

Translation;

"I've said many times before that no matter what kind of being you are, you can never defeat Yogiri in the story's setting, but this is just a re-explanation of that, so I gave it the title "superfluous". I'm often asked, "What would happen if you fought something from another work?", but as long as you follow the setting, you can't beat Yogiri. Of course, you can win if you ignore the setting, but is there any point in comparing strengths while ignoring the core setting? I wonder. The original source of V Road is the Road to the Gods of War, but I think that there are many people who don't know about it these days."

So basically IF and only IF Anos ignores the core of Plot or the rules of the verse Anos can neg diff him. So stop the cap, I've seen too many of it today.


Ad Populum fallacy...Wow a world right?

I can assure you over 80% of those guys haven't read the light novel or do not know nor understand the Cosmology of I.D. These are the kinds of people I deal with and GOD I'm tired it.

Sure that's on you bro, you can wank how ever much you desire. I mean it's a free world right?

W . Now wank Misfit .

 

[RemaxG1]

W . Now wank Misfit .

Lol soon bro

 

[ROZAN-U]

Why are you even entertaining the personification of stonewalling

 

[ElPapucho80]

Why are you even entertaining the personification of stonewalling

XDDDD.

 

[Azertyhuuh]

That's just your OWN personal opinion not in a general sense pal.

"It was a dead end. The destination of all fates, beyond which there is nothing. The end of everything in human form. It is precisely because it is the end that it stands until the end. No one can go further than it. Before this thing, fate, the plot, and the like must be a joke.

それ は 袋小路 だっ た。 　 全て の 運命 の 行き着く 先 で あり、 そこ から 先 には 何 も ない。 全て の 終わり が そこ で 人 の 形 を 取っ て い た。 　 それ は 終焉 で ある から こそ、 最後 まで 立っ て いる 者 だ。 何者 も それ より 先 に 行く こと など でき は し ない。 　 そんな 者 を 相手 に、 運命 だの、 筋書き だの 戯れ言 にも なら ない"

So now please do enlighten me on how he transcends Conventional Nothingness when this scan literally destroys your argument? If you understand sentencing in English Grammar then I need not explain myself "It was a dead end. The destination of all fates, beyond which there is nothing." What part of this statement screams "Oh my God Yogiri transcends Nothingness because I am the end of all things so nothing exists before me" LMFAO

By the way this was the MTL folks liked to use and STILL use...

"It was a dead end. The inevitable destination of all fates, beyond which there was nothing. The end of all things in human form. An embodiment of nonexistence that would overcome all others, something that no one could ever hope to surpass. Before this thing, the machinations of Fate were nothing more than a crude joke."

I do not understand why you are bringing this up or what it has to do with the matter, but honestly your statement has not changed anything. The text is still clear: there is nothing after it, and nothing can exist beyond that. It is the end, and it is the only thing that will remain in the end because it is the end. The end transcends even the concept of nothingness itself, because it is the end. Concepts in general have an end, and even the concept of nothingness has an end, therefore nothingness does not transcend the end.

Y'know you should be careful on what you say cuz some words would come back to bit you. Here's a post made by the Author of I.D

たのですが、それを再度説明しただけの話ですので蛇足というタイトルになりました。他の作品のなんちゃらと戦ったらどうなるの？というのは実によく聞かれる話ではあるのですが、設定に従う以上は絶対に夜霧に勝てません。もちろん、設定を無視すれば勝てるのですが、根幹となる設定を無視して強さを比べることに意味があるんだろうか？とは思っています。
Ｖロードの元ネタは武神来往道なのですが、今となっては知らない人多数だろうなぁとは思っています。

Translation;

"I've said many times before that no matter what kind of being you are, you can never defeat Yogiri in the story's setting, but this is just a re-explanation of that, so I gave it the title "superfluous". I'm often asked, "What would happen if you fought something from another work?", but as long as you follow the setting, you can't beat Yogiri. Of course, you can win if you ignore the setting, but is there any point in comparing strengths while ignoring the core setting? I wonder. The original source of V Road is the Road to the Gods of War, but I think that there are many people who don't know about it these days."

So basically IF and only IF Anos ignores the core of Plot or the rules of the verse Anos can neg diff him. So stop the cap, I've seen too many of it today.

Yes, nothing has changed so far either. The author says that regardless of what kind of character you have, you will never be able to defeat Yogiri within the framework of the story (I will explain to you now what he means by the framework of the story, but next time try to read the entire text and understand it before giving hasty conclusions). After that, the author said that he is often asked about what would happen if Yogiri faced characters from other works. The author replied and said that as long as you adhere to the settings, you will not be able to defeat Yogiri. He also said that of course you would win if you ignored the settings, and then asked what the point of power scaling is if you ignore the settings.

His statement here is completely clear: he is not saying that Yogiri is restricted by the story or confined within the story and such things. Rather, he is saying that the person who ignores the basic settings is the one at fault. It is not the character who ignores them, but the person doing the comparison. The person who compares if they follow the basic settings that exist for Yogiri then of course Yogiri will win. But if the person themselves ignores the settings, meaning what was stated about the character and his abilities, then of course Yogiri would lose, because you ignored the facts about his abilities and that he cannot be defeated and cannot be surpassed. This has nothing to do with fictional characters ignoring the story or the world, because Yogiri is not restricted by the story or the world; rather, he is the end of the story and the world itself. The statement here is directed at the person making the comparison, not at the characters.

Even I, if I ignored the basic settings upon which Anos’s power is built, then he would lose, because I would not be following what was stated about him and his abilities. That would be ignoring his power and the settings upon which he was built. Therefore, if someone ignores these things about a character, of course that character would lose.

I do not know whether you can understand or not, but this is my last statement to you. You have exhausted me with this discussion. Say whatever you want after this the meaning is clear and everything is clear. Otherwise, do not tire yourself.

Ad Populum fallacy...Wow a world right?
I can assure you over 80% of those guys haven't read the light novel or do not know nor understand the Cosmology of I.D. These are the kinds of people I deal with and GOD I'm tired it.

No, the opposite actually.

Sure that's on you bro, you can wank how ever much you desire. I mean it's a free world right?

Say whatever you want, interpret it however you like, and convince yourself of whatever you want, but do not forget: Yogiri > Anos Voldigoad.

 

[Azertyhuuh]

Fujitaka didn't say he transcends concept of dimensions though. Q/A states "He can ignore concept of dimensions" not that he is superior to them anyway. Not like MGK doesn't have this level vague statements(which are useless as single arguments). As for Graham he is also not just nothingness though, he is beyond material nothingness just as you claim for Yogurt but with extra ad infinitum layers, so not rlly helps against him

The word “ignore” indicates mockery, or something uninteresting, or something so trivial that you simply disregard it. In this case, that context is stronger than merely saying “able to transcend.” Rather, the context left by the author suggests that the concept of dimensions and all those possible worlds mean nothing and are not important at all, and that Yogiri can simply ignore all of those things.

If you are not convinced, there is no need to reply in advance, because I have already said what I had to say, and the context is clear for a character like Yogiri. The context also states that regardless of what type of character it is, you cannot defeat Yogiri, and even in other works you cannot defeat Yogiri. Therefore the context is clear, and I do not like people who pretend to be intentionally ignorant.

As for Graham, I said that his source is Perfect Nothingness Type 2. Yes, there is no need to repeat this, and I am also aware of the layers. However, I also know that they are not infinite, because Anos mentioned that he would need to destroy him billions of times in order to eliminate him completely, which means they are not infinite layers but limited.

Likewise, I told you that Yogiri is the end the end beyond which there is nothing, and nothing can exist beyond it, nor can it be surpassed. I did not say that Yogiri is nothingness; rather, Yogiri is the end, and he is the only one who will remain in the end because he is the end. The end transcends even the concept of nothingness itself, because the concept of nothingness can still be destroyed, which means it does not transcend the end, and that the concept of nothingness itself still has an end. Therefore, Yogiri crushes Graham and Anos Voldigoad.

 

[Hecky2222]

well technically they are not "Infinite" but closest thing to Infinite since Graham comes again and again no matter how many times you erase his nothingness which would be Ad Infinitum layers

 

[RemaxG1]

I do not understand why you are bringing this up or what it has to do with the matter, but honestly your statement has not changed anything. The text is still clear: there is nothing after it, and nothing can exist beyond that. It is the end, and it is the only thing that will remain in the end because it is the end.

• Nothing (No-thing): Primarily a negative quantifier meaning "not a single thing". It is practical, used to describe an empty container or a lack of something specific (e.g., "There is nothing in the box").
• Nothingness: A noun referring to the state of non-existence, the void, or the absence of all being. It is often used in philosophical or existential contexts, such as in discussions of death, the void, or the ultimate absence of everything.

You think they're the same just because you misunderstood Aoi's context? All you Yogiri guys ALWAYS make the same argument and it's getting really boring I'll be honest. Go back and revise your thoughts on the scan.

Yes, nothing has changed so far either. The author says that regardless of what kind of character you have, you will never be able to defeat Yogiri within the framework of the story (I will explain to you now what he means by the framework of the story, but next time try to read the entire text and understand it before giving hasty conclusions). After that, the author said that he is often asked about what would happen if Yogiri faced characters from other works. The author replied and said that as long as you adhere to the settings, you will not be able to defeat Yogiri. He also said that of course you would win if you ignored the settings, and then asked what the point of power scaling is if you ignore the settings.

Then what about story plots of MGK, Nasuverse, Toaru, Tensura and others? Is Yogiri gonna ignore the core of their plots to? If this is the case then the Author of I.D's statement is incoherent because he doesn't understand the basis of power scaling. It's redundant of you to explain a tweet of someone who doesn't scale. He literally states you can win if you ignore the core of the plot but did he say anything about Yogiri going off into other stories and ignoring their plots to and winning? Wow. So basically he is the "End" of all Fiction now just cuz one guy wrote a poorly written OP character?

What do other authors of OTHER works think about this? Please do enlighten me.

No, the opposite actually.

Ad Populum fallacy......Your statement was "If we are talking about power, then Yogiri is the strongest and will always remain the strongest, and will remain the strongest across all social media. You can search for yourself (all the famous videos and comparisons that have interactions of 80k and above"

Ad Populum Fallacy- The ad populum fallacy is the mistake of claiming something is true just because many people believe it.

FAAAAAAAAAAH~

-"and will remain the strongest across all social media."


"You can search for yourself (all the famous videos and comparisons that have interactions of 80k and above"



DOUBLE FAAAAAAAAHHHH~

Never once claimed something is not true just because It's not popular, you however did the opposite. All I said was that you are basing your argument based on popularity. "Appeal to unpopularity or snobbery" It's the opposite of Ad Populum Fallacy. Or was this not what you meant when you said "It's the opposite"?

Say whatever you want, interpret it however you like, and convince yourself of whatever you want, but do not forget: Yogiri > Anos Voldigoad.

Oh I just forgot already lmaooo

 

[RemaxG1]

Why are you even entertaining the personification of stonewalling

Because even stonewalls deserve intellectual stimulation. Rectifying it is just a way to pass the time .

 

[ElPapucho80]

oño oño

 

[ElPapucho80]

This is tik tok moment

 

[RemaxG1]

This is tik tok moment

For real bruhhh

 

[Mizuki67]

What power scaling does to a person

 

[Cipher72]

What power scaling does to a person

Is it really just powerscaling though ?

The

Although your intent isn't hostile, you might get reported for this so make sure you don't derail the thread too much with Eugiri since this is a General Discussion Thread for MGK Verse Supporters and not a Enus vs Eugiri VSB

 

[Azertyhuuh]

Is it really just powerscaling though ?

Although your intent isn't hostile, you might get reported for this so make sure you don't derail the thread too much with Eugiri since this is a General Discussion Thread for MGK Verse Supporters and not a Enus vs Eugiri VSB

I don't understand what hostility you're talking about, but why don't you say this to the rest of the people here who started talking about Yogiri?

 

[Cipher72]

I don't understand what hostility you're talking about,

I am not saying that you are being hostile. I am saying that if you continue to argue then your actions might be interpreted as hostile.

but why don't you say this to the rest of the people here who started talking about Yogiri?

Because they didn't bring up Eugiri ? That's like me going to a One Piece general discussion thread and talking about how Naruto solos their entire verse. Ofc they are gonna get frustrated and address my points.

 

[Hecky2222]

Because they didn't bring up Eugiri ? That's like me going to a One Piece general discussion thread and talking about how Naruto solos their entire verse. Ofc they are gonna get frustrated and address my points.

We all know base Goku solos MGK. End of the discussion

 

[Azertyhuuh]

I am not saying that you are being hostile. I am saying that if you continue to argue then your actions might be interpreted as hostile.

Because they didn't bring up Eugiri ? That's like me going to a One Piece general discussion thread and talking about how Naruto solos their entire verse. Ofc they are gonna get frustrated and address my points.

First of all, I was not the one who started talking about Yogiri here. One of the members wrote a reply to me and I responded to him. I am not the one who began the discussion about Yogiri here. Secondly, I will never agree with something that is not correct. Why don’t you say the same thing to yourself or to others here? From my point of view, they are also constantly arguing.

From today you should know that I will not be convinced by anyone’s words here unless they are correct and logical.

 

[ElPapucho80]

First of all, I was not the one who started talking about Yogiri here. One of the members wrote a reply to me and I responded to him. I am not the one who began the discussion about Yogiri here. Secondly, I will never agree with something that is not correct. Why don’t you say the same thing to yourself or to others here? From my point of view, they are also constantly arguing.

From today you should know that I will not be convinced by anyone’s words here unless they are correct and logical.

Peak. You should continue doing some CRT. Maybe Tensura one since you have a cool Diablo pic. Misfit is just 5D nevertheless.

 

[Hecky2222]

Azerty sama can Yogurt solo Tensura

 

[ElPapucho80]

Azerty sama can Yogurt solo Tensura

OFC bro. Yogurt is the end bro. Real and Logical. 0 fallacies

 

[Hecky2222]

OFC bro. Yogurt is the end bro. Real and Logical. 0 fallacies

There is nothing to resist concept of ending in Tensura and MGK fr

 

[ElPapucho80]

There is nothing to resist concept of ending in Tensura and MGK fr

Fr. Even Graham is Yogurt's victim. Yogi is the end. End of the Debate.

 

[Orioreeem]

First of all, I was not the one who started talking about Yogiri here. One of the members wrote a reply to me and I responded to him. I am not the one who began the discussion about Yogiri here. Secondly, I will never agree with something that is not correct. Why don’t you say the same thing to yourself or to others here? From my point of view, they are also constantly arguing.

From today you should know that I will not be convinced by anyone’s words here unless they are correct and logical.

Yogiri can't end someone who is omnipotent like Alien X

 

[Cipher72]

omnipotent like Alien X

@Reiner04 you aren't allowed to create alts bro

 

[Just a Random Butler]

@Reiner04 you aren't allowed to create alts bro

What do you have to say for yourself @Reiner04?

We take sockpuppeting very seriously here.

 

[Hecky2222]

@Reiner04 you aren't allowed to create alts bro

My grandson thinking he is me

 

[TheHyperGuy]

Paraconsistent Maou Gakuin

Pretty straight forward, just adding Paraconsistent Physiology to profiles for MG characters. Graham; Probably the most blatant case. Able to exist as nothing, which is equivalent of nonexistence. So Graham can embody a state of both contradictory states of existing and not existing at the same...

vsbattles.com

Hope this is simple, maybe could've done more to simplify it...

 

[Hecky2222]

Paraconsistent Maou Gakuin

Pretty straight forward, just adding Paraconsistent Physiology to profiles for MG characters. Graham; Probably the most blatant case. Able to exist as nothing, which is equivalent of nonexistence. So Graham can embody a state of both contradictory states of existing and not existing at the same...

vsbattles.com

Hope this is simple, maybe could've done more to simplify it...

Average MGK wank

 

[ElPapucho80]

ID kchado XD

Paraconsistent Maou Gakuin

Pretty straight forward, just adding Paraconsistent Physiology to profiles for MG characters. Graham; Probably the most blatant case. Able to exist as nothing, which is equivalent of nonexistence. So Graham can embody a state of both contradictory states of existing and not existing at the same...

vsbattles.com

Hope this is simple, maybe could've done more to simplify it...

Oño

 

[A_Fallen_Bread]

Finished vol 11. I've got a few questions.

1. Would Venuzdonoa have been effective against Equis?

2. Anos did mention that Sasha could still have used his Magic Eyes of Mayhem's power in a burst after they exchanged their eyes. Will she be using it?

3. Top 10 strongest characters Pre-Silverwater Sea Arc?

 

[Saucy_Jackistan24]

Finished vol 11. I've got a few questions.

1. Would Venuzdonoa have been effective against Equis?

2. Anos did mention that Sasha could still have used his Magic Eyes of Mayhem's power in a burst after they exchanged their eyes. Will she be using it?

3. Top 10 strongest characters Pre-Silverwater Sea Arc?

1. Yes, Venuzdonoa could destroy Equis pretty easily. Destroying Reason will always be rendered superior to Order which is Venuzdonoa's whole shtick.

2. No she can't. At best after fusing with Delsgade she gained the Magic Eyes of Abolishing Reason thanks to Anos' Magic Eyes of Mayhem which she can use to summon Venuzdonoa.

3. Should be something like this:

1. Anos
2. Equis
3. Graham
4. Celis
5. Abernyu/Militia
6. Lay
7. Shin
8. Arcana
9. Vade
10. Four Principles (Anahem being the strongest)

 

[ROZAN-U]

Lay is a fraud who doesn't deserve top 10

 

[Dereck03]

TikTok Zinnia should be top 1

 

[A_Fallen_Bread]

2. No she can't. At best after fusing with Delsgade she gained the Magic Eyes of Abolishing Reason thanks to Anos' Magic Eyes of Mayhem which she can use to summon Venuzdonoa.

Quite disappointed.

3. Should be something like this:

1. Anos
2. Equis
3. Graham
4. Celis
5. Abernyu/Militia
6. Shin
7. Lay
8. Arcana
9. Vade
10. Four Principles (Anahem being the strongest)

Where is Revalschned? I expected him to be here with Egil Grone Angdroa.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Vector alt spotted