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Kagurabachi General Discussion Thread

He didn't do anything we haven't seen him do before. Like we already have feats off him teleporting people up into the air.
I meant in this arc overall, since it seems the flashback is going to put him in the spotlight.
 
Hey I'm wondering if Soga scales to his Bee physically and if he does what exactly is the reasoning? Does the verse work off a UES? From what I know, Bee isn't regular black energy, its concentrated into a single point to burrow through the ground. There should be an obvious difference in it being in his body and it being concentrated like a drill right?
 
Hey I'm wondering if Soga scales to his Bee physically and if he does what exactly is the reasoning? Does the verse work off a UES? From what I know, Bee isn't regular black energy, its concentrated into a single point to burrow through the ground. There should be an obvious difference in it being in his body and it being concentrated like a drill right?
Read the last page we talked about the energy system there
 
So Soga will just be 8B through reinforcement? And Bee scales above him?
Bee is no different than his using the dark power for everything else
We're also once again told the use of the Dark Power is the constant normal state for the Magatsumi almost like what we said before is again the case that there's the infinitely malleable forms he can choose to shape his energy in with none being special outside of shaping it for specifc purposes
yeah this basically all it is, its the same energy he uses for anything else there's nothing special about other than that for this attack he concentrated to amplify its piercing power at a single point but ultimately its not like he couldn't also concentrate it on his regular slashes or shockwaves or anything else. It's just him focusing power and being variable with how he uses his energy
 
Bee is a concentrated use of that right? How are you arguing its the same level of power as his regular physical punches?
I didn't say it scales to his punches just that its not any specifc thing stronger than what the other stuff he does with the dark power is capable of.
I don't see how concentrating it into a single point would make it any more special than just sending energy around him like he does with Centipede. If anything's special about it, it's that it's concentrated which makes it deadlier since the pressure is so much higher, but the total amount of energy doesn't change and should be something he'd be able to put into his other moves.
 
I thought concentrated energy causes the area to be hit by more energy than if it were spread out. Or is that not the same logic here?
 
I thought concentrated energy causes the area to be hit by more energy than if it were spread out. Or is that not the same logic here?
Its concentrated to a single point. Thats the most important part "to a single point", he's just focusing it since making the surface area smaller creates better penetration but the total energy used is no different than what he'd be using for anything else, you're just conflating the forms he can shape the energy in to the actual total amount of energy being used when it doesn't work like that, nothing stops him from also being able to concrete more energy into any other attacks or forms he decided to shape it into, bee isn't unique because he concrated the energy itself or used more than any others (which he didn't), no its whole defining thing is that its just focused on a single point
 
nothing stops him from also being able to concrete more energy into any other attacks or forms he decided to shape it into, bee isn't unique because he concrated the energy itself or used more than any others, no its whole defining thing is that its just focused on a single point
Right I agree with that, but I'm asking about regular physical attacks. I don't have much info on the verse, so is it said they can concentrate the energy like that into their body the same way Bee is?

You put these which talk about needing the skill to circulate the energy to a higher level. So where is it stated that Soga has the skill to circulate the amount of energy bee required?
 
Right I agree with that, but I'm asking about regular physical attacks. I don't have much info on the verse, so is it said they can concentrate the energy like that into their body the same way Bee is?
ah okay i thought you were wondering why his other techniques should scale to bee but yeah for reinforcement we would definitely need proof that he can reinforce on the same level as the output his techniques with the blade so for now yeah we can't say he can 1 to 1 exactly punch and kick with the same force as that no, at most you could maybe say he downscales to an unknown degree since he'd still basically be manipulating and using the dark power as his regular state of spirit energy but that's about it.

For now at least we know he could upscale Yura's 8-A feat using a fraction of a sliver of borrowed power from the Magatsumi while it was still almost entirely sheathed, since Samura himself already would downscale that feat too but that's the extent

At least 8-A likely far higher, low 7-C+ with Dark power or something like that
 
He's not slick

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