Anonymous_Learner
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say this in the thread mate
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
- Thread starter PowerToScale
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Speed = D/T u know
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Ok? And whats the time?
Qurbonboev
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"The sorcerer and anyone they touch must produce the movement according to 24 fps rule"
Rodriiogo
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I'll say what I said in the actual thread, since it is from the sorcerer's perspective, from naoya's perspective one movement from them = one second. We even see in the dagon vs naobito fight how dagon's movements are divided in 24, yet dagon fails to fullfill the 24FPS rule
Even if you don't wanna say it increases physical speed (which it does in a way via stacking, that's literally what naoya does against maki) it would still mean Naoya's perception is 24x above everyone's else who will only see one frame of that at a time.
Even if you don't wanna say it increases physical speed (which it does in a way via stacking, that's literally what naoya does against maki) it would still mean Naoya's perception is 24x above everyone's else who will only see one frame of that at a time.
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If it's 1 second with Projection Sorcery, it's 24 seconds without it
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misread and thought you said the diameter was 200m my bad brotato
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I won't fall for such ragebait
Saqphire
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention; the 4000km distance isn't valid because HP was concealed until the last second, so you'd have to use a shorter distance here because Sukuna reacts to it when it is way closer. I believe we can see that shorter distance right before it hits the building Sukuna was on
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It likely was but we don’t know when he would’ve reacted. This would effectively be the minimum speed assuming hp is ftl
Also that shorter distance was after he already raised his arms so it can only be used as the “end distance” in a sense for how far hp would’ve traveled by the time Sukuna reacted
Saqphire
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I guess yeah, we'll have to wait for the anime interpretation of the feat (Really shows how gege's composition is kinda ass if we have constantly wait for the anime to elaborate on it on multiple occassions)
Never mind, I misread what you said. Yeah you're right
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I don’t think the composition is ass, it portrays HP how he likely wanted. All we see is Gojo firing it and next thing we and Sukuna know it’s literally right in front of him. It demonstrates HP’s speed as well as their plan for it to be hidden til the last second
Probably but the panel we see is the end right before it hits, Sukuna’s arms are already raised and HP is a single building away. If we had a shot of how far it was before he noticed it or a shot when he did it’d be calcable but like this it isn’t without effectively just doing an arbitrary assumption.
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oh I was so right lmao
Saqphire
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In that aspect, you're right. It's a really good showcase for high speed if anything but I was more so talking in general, when we have to wait for the anime multiple times for multiple feats. One Piece has this problem as well
Yep, you're right. I realised that after I posted and edited my post accordingly
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Hmm I do wonder is it POV or FOV cause the translation we have in the profiles currently has the explanation as being related to FOV. I know it’s the manga vs the fanbook but considering the fanbook is kind of just repeating the explanation given in the manga I wonder if it’s supposed to be the same thing and it was just translated differently
Rodriiogo
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I'm pretty sure the actual translation is how it uses their FOV as the Angle of view so it's still their POV in terms of FPS, while their FOV is the AOV like of a camera
Anonymous_Learner
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JJK Fans are their own worst enemies, istgLol, for every upgrade comes three new downgrades for JJK.
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JJK experiencing 1% of One Piece's painLol, for every upgrade comes three new downgrades for JJK.
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I think it's the reverse tbh. For as many downgrade attempts thrown at One Piece, they've never dropped them a potential Superhuman cap lol
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Tbf One Piece only got wankers in this wiki. There was Damage holding all back, but he does not interact anymore
Rodriiogo
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200km/h One piece (Truth)
JJK's speed scaling is just getting drawn back because of that misogynistic bum's 2 statements man, someone please wipe him from the story
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i mean jjk is way more grounded in comparison
i was more so talking how almost all high tier calcs for ap were nuked and are currently impossible to even calc (if nothing changed)
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Tbh, I'm like half joking here. Like yeah JJK is more grounded than One Piece, but never seen a case like this where all of characters below top tier get mass downgraded lol, from another character who aren't using to scale.i mean jjk is way more grounded in comparison
i was more so talking how almost all high tier calcs for ap were nuked and are currently impossible to even calc (if nothing changed)
Idk how much you're joking, but even if you disregard the Kizaru & Pacifista One Piece is still Relativistic.
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THEY MADE A TREE HAVE THE RADIUS OF OUR PLANET EARTH
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I was specifically talking about speed, so that what I thought you were talking as well? Especially since there are people who have argued against it. That being said, I think some of the size calculations are probably somewhat wonky since Oda has an issue with scale. But, it seems like you're actually upset, and I don't want to make this into a One Piece scaling argument in the JJK thread, so imma drop that threadline.
EldemadeDityjon
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Btw Charles seeing the future and Base Hakari would have Blitzed him if not for that. I think it would also come around Subsonic speed feat iirc?
Rodriiogo
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There's no real thread about it, it just got agreed on because of the statements, the closest thing you can get to a thread about that is this one.
But the whole cap just came from this 4 statements really:
It's all naoya, contrary to what other people will tell you, there's no other thing capping the verse really
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Is the speed of sound thing for Cursed Naoya or as a Human? Because the imgur scan from his page shows this is during the fight against cursed Naoya.There's no real thread about it, it just got agreed on because of the statements, the closest thing you can get to a thread about that is this one.
But the whole cap just came from this 4 statements really:
It's all naoya, contrary to what other people will tell you, there's no other thing capping the verse really
Rodriiogo
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Rodriiogo
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Truth nuke, this four statements ruined the entire scaling man
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Am I missing something? I thought Human Naoya was the basis of downgrade? But his transonic statement from his page doesn't give him a speed value.
Anonymous_Learner
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Top speed Hman naoya has a statement of him surpassing subsonic with him having a vapor cone
Rodriiogo
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"Naoya, who had already surpassed subsonic speed." is the statement
So he's beyond subsonic which would be transonic
Anonymous_Learner
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you're correct, he is the basis of the downgrade and doesn't have a value (Page assumes he's like Mach 0.9), though I recall there were some discussion about whether or not Human naoya could potentially be supersonic, which might actually be the case if that one anime calc is correct
Rodriiogo
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Some people won't allow this I can feel it, since as a cursed womb is when he reaches supersonic speeds according to maki
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