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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

So the superhuman crt is unironically a real thing thats gonna happen? 🥶
 
High tiers: Subsonic (Off the like dozen or so calcs of guys like Toji and those comparable blitzing high tiers) (Jogo would also be here off blitzing feats and downscaling from Naobito)
Toji should only be Superhuman too. Subsonic speed people shouldn't be getting blitzed by Mach 3 characters while prepared from HUNDREDS OF METERS AWAY. That just ain't possible.
 
Toji should only be Superhuman too. Subsonic speed people shouldn't be getting blitzed by Mach 3 characters while prepared from HUNDREDS OF METERS AWAY. That just ain't possible.
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Damn. At this point why don’t we just do whatever Life (I think) said earlier and just do “Superhuman/(whatever the hell statements give us), likely/possibly (whatever calcs give us)” to just have both and avoid all the arguing constantly.
 
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Damn. At this point why don’t we just do whatever Life (I think) said earlier and just do “Superhuman/(whatever the hell statements give us), likely/possibly (whatever calcs give us)” to just have both and avoid all the arguing constantly.
A cop out. I'd just prefer we ignore the stupid speed cap statements since the author clearly barely knows what he's talking about, but if we're not doing that, we may as well do the next best thing and nerf everyone to realistic levels that these speed caps entail. If people think it looks or seems stupid? Good, they can realize the speed caps makes no sense. But that doesn't mean we should try to find a middle ground. That's not what we do on the wiki. We go for accuracy, not what makes the most people happy.
 
A cop out. I'd just prefer we ignore the stupid speed cap statements since the author clearly barely knows what he's talking about, but if we're not doing that, we may as well do the next best thing and nerf everyone to realistic levels that these speed caps entail. If people think it looks or seems stupid? Good, they can realize the speed caps makes no sense. But that doesn't mean we should try to find a middle ground. That's not what we do on the wiki. We go for accuracy, not what makes the most people happy.
I disagree. Way too extreme.
 
I disagree with it too. But it's the natural conclusion to using the speed caps. I'm not going to NOT propose it just because it "doesn't feel right". If you think that's too extreme, idk what to tell you besides that's what the speed caps entail.
Why would they entail exactly that?
 
A cop out. I'd just prefer we ignore the stupid speed cap statements since the author clearly barely knows what he's talking about, but if we're not doing that, we may as well do the next best thing and nerf everyone to realistic levels that these speed caps entail. If people think it looks or seems stupid? Good, they can realize the speed caps makes no sense. But that doesn't mean we should try to find a middle ground. That's not what we do on the wiki. We go for accuracy, not what makes the most people happy.
While I was considering the possibility of reconciling the statements to only apply to the Curseya fight / Base Naoya fight and earlier due to Kashimo's antics, I have come to realise that because of the sheer abundance of feats that just outright contradict Mach 3 (and Subsonic Naoya even more), including MAPPA even having this mf blitz LIGHT in this latest episode, I strongly agree that the statements should be discarded; it's getting into CW Flash levels of ridiculousness
 
While I was considering the possibility of reconciling the statements to only apply to the Curseya fight / Base Naoya fight and earlier due to Kashimo's antics, I have come to realise that because of the sheer abundance of feats that just outright contradict Mach 3 (and Subsonic Naoya even more), with MAPPA even having this mf blitz LIGHT in this latest episode, I strongly agree that the statements should be discarded; it's getting into CW Flash levels of ridiculousness
I am in agreement with nuking the statements outside of like, travel speed (But I'd be fine with using a compromise of speed feats not being calcuable when people are moving at a stated speed MAYBE in the series during a feat)
 
While I was considering the possibility of reconciling the statements to only apply to the Curseya fight / Base Naoya fight and earlier due to Kashimo's antics, I have come to realise that because of the sheer abundance of feats that just outright contradict Mach 3 (and Subsonic Naoya even more), including MAPPA even having this mf blitz LIGHT in this latest episode, I strongly agree that the statements should be discarded; it's getting into CW Flash levels of ridiculousness
Blitz light?
 
I am in agreement with nuking the statements outside of like, travel speed (But I'd be fine with using a compromise of speed feats not being calcuable when people are moving at a stated speed MAYBE in the series during a feat)
Trust me, there are ALOT of reaction speed feats in the verse that allow inferior characters to react to far superior characters.
  1. Megumi reacting to Toji who was stated capable of handling "Mach 3" Naoya
  2. Toji reacting to lightning
  3. Maki reacting to lightning
  4. Hakari reacting to lightning
  5. Sukuna reacting to light THREE TIMES (the infamous one, the accepted one on here and again against Hana)
  6. Sukuna reacting to imaginary mass (yes I am a purple = tachyon goon)
Blitz light?
After Choso uses FRSS, Naoya perception blitzes and statues him and ends up running past a rooftop light above him under a frozen frame. The frame is initially shown like this:

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After Naoya runs past it, the frame looks like this

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However, in normal physics involving photons and their patterns, the pattern fixes itself in nanoseconds even if you run past it as fast as you can because you're not faster than light, and as such, light will have time to look like normal. The pattern would thus look like the first frame even after he ran past it under that logic, yet the pattern looks completely different, showing that the photons hasnt had time to fix itself yet, lagging behind Naoya's presence. On top of that, it's seen as frozen
 
Naoya really decided to come in and nuke the verse for a second time huh
Naoya ruined JJK scaling man

I swear hakari, when the lightning feat gets animated, could do 500 backflips backwards, go into a mcdonalds, eat a whole meal, do 500 frontflips forward to come back, and fully dodge the lightning when it's still frozen and people would still call out the mach 3 statement
 
I do agree with removing the awful statements cap but I do wanna point out:
Megumi reacting to Toji who was stated capable of handling "Mach 3" Naoya
Toji was only ever stated capable of handling the zenin clan before Naoya turned into a curse, he has no scaling to the "Mach 3" version of Naoya since even Maki who was equal to him could only fully dodge Curse Naoya with enhanced senses
 
Naoya ruined JJK scaling man

I swear hakari, when the lightning feat gets animated, could do 500 backflips backwards, go into a mcdonalds, eat a whole meal, do 500 frontflips forward to come back, and fully dodge the lightning when it's still frozen and people would still call out the mach 3 statement
This reminds me of when CW Flash ran around the planet like a gazillion times in a single second in Season 4 and they called it a Mach 7 feat
 
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I do agree with removing the awful statements cap but I do wanna point out:

Toji was only ever stated capable of handling the zenin clan before Naoya turned into a curse, he has no scaling to the "Mach 3" version of Naoya since even Maki who was equal to him could only fully dodge Curse Naoya with enhanced senses
Maki directly states that he could've handled Curseya with a panel showing him doing the "Mach 3" feat. And Maki should scale to that because her precog is in real time, so she still needs reaction/combat speed to fight back against it, this aint some spark thing that the verse has
 
  • Megumi reacting to Toji who was stated capable of handling "Mach 3" Naoya
  • Toji reacting to lightning
  • Maki reacting to lightning
  • Hakari reacting to lightning
  • Sukuna reacting to light THREE TIMES (the infamous one, the accepted one on here and again against Hana)
  • Sukuna reacting to imaginary mass (yes I am a purple = tachyon goon)
😭😭😭😭😭
 
When did I downplayed Yuta below others 😭
It's you glazing him like he beats others. I'm pretty sure I made it clear he is around others level. He loses due to different reasons not because sts only.
He's relative in stats, he wins due to hax not his own stats lol
AND FOR THE LAST TIME I DONT GLAZE YUTA
 
This one is Hypersonic iirc
Pretty sure if we use the standard for lightning height (2000 m) it’s only subsonic. If we use the panel yeah it’d probably be higher but there’s still a good amount of distance between them. Also do we count nue’s lightning as actual lightning?

Sukuna reacting to imaginary mass (yes I am a purple = tachyon goon)
We fr rn?
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See you are still glazing that bum.
Nah you're just a hater, i dont hate anyone and even if i somrhow do it doesn't affect how i scale them
Yuji and Yuki punch that man's head off (Especially yuki), once again glazing
They dont. And he cuts their head off with that logic.

Y'all can agenda reply all you want but both of you know that realistically Yuta is simply stronger. Rika, more and better hax, far better domain refinement, long range weapon. And so on.
 
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