Honkai Cosmology Rework

[Vietthai96]

Also can we like get a finalized vote now cuz it’s seriously getting old.

I remember i already disagreed with the thread?

 

[SuperNova55555]

I remember i already disagreed with the thread?

Ehh I don’t remember but it’s “finalized” now at least lel.

Can you tag some mods as well tho? Maybe the ones who voted last thread might be interested

 

[Vietthai96]

Ehh I don’t remember but it’s “finalized” now at least lel.

Can you tag some mods as well tho? Maybe the ones who voted last thread might be interested

@Planck69 @Reiner04 @Elizhaa @DarkDragonMedeus @Emirp sumitpo

 

[AyOgUyS]

6D from containing the ether anchor point, ether anchor point being 5D for transcending the 4D bubble universe and the SoQ being the bulk containing the ether anchor point should be 6D (unless im just mistaking something)

Idk if this is valid or not :/

 

[SuperNova55555]

Idk if this is valid or not :/

Not sure why the dimensions of the anchor have to be ones that qualify for tiering and also I’m really not sure why the bulk has to be superior to it.

It’s like saying our universe has 4 spatial dimensions because it contains 3D humans

 

[AyOgUyS]

Not sure why the dimensions of the anchor have to be ones that qualify for tiering and also I’m really not sure why the bulk has to be superior to it.

It’s like saying our universe has 4 spatial dimensions because it contains 3D humans

so its a "X realm is 6D cuz it contain infinite 5d things" type argument? in that case its not valid

 

[SuperNova55555]

so its a "X realm is 6D cuz it contain infinite 5d things" type argument? in that case its not valid

No it’s “X realm is 6D cuz it contains 5D things”

 

[AyOgUyS]

No it’s “X realm is 6D cuz it contains 5D things”

that's even worse bruh

 

[Vietthai96]

No, it is X realm is 7D cause it contain a 6D guy who is 6D cause he is > 5D ream

 

[SuperNova55555]

No, it is X realm is 7D cause it contain a 6D guy who is 6D cause he is > 5D ream

Said 5D realm is also quantumly superimposed to being 6D

 

[PedjaTarzan]

No, it is X realm is 7D cause it contain a 6D guy who is 6D cause he is > 5D ream

its not like higher D realm have R>F over inferior one lol

 

[SuperNova55555]

its not like higher D realm have R>F over inferior one lol

Said “R>F” is just the guy merging with the realm instead

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Said “R>F” is just the guy merging with the realm instead

and what does this have to do anything exactly

 

[SuperNova55555]

and what does this have to do anything exactly

I don’t think I have to spell out the glaring problem.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Imaginary Spaces can also be created btw. Like that one Void Herrscher did or wtvr.

No, HoV has bfred Himeko there and it was confrimed that she died inside Imaginary Space

But there isn’t really any contradiction here; some Imaginary Spaces can be origins of things and some can have other functions.

Path space is nothing like Imaginary Space that i talk about, and i told you every other realm that you consider "Imaginary Space" is just the specific domain instead. (literally like ottos church)
Also Path Space even allows you to sustain existence while for Imaginary Space its this:

Imaginary Space. The origin of the universe, where the laws converge.The meaning of time here cannot be understood based on common sense, and the operation of things here cannot be calculated by the study of mechanics.For mere mortals, without special precautions, it's almost impossible to sustain an existence here...

which is literally confirmed in the same scan i sent about himeko dying there.

Time in Path Space is stopped but in HI3, Time in Imaginary Space is like a spatial dimension.

Because Path Space doesnt even fuction like Imaginary Space. Like all this time im talking about the only absolute Imaginary Space that has birthed all creation universe laws and everything.

The Imaginary Space fundamentally defys reality and all physical constants that exists, anything that isn't possible in base reality is a common occurence in the Imaginary Space, hence allowing paradoxical events and establishes a logic-contradicting universal system. The Imaginary domain's logic-defying system comes from all universal laws intersecting, hence does not abode to conventional logic, which explains the Imaginary Tree is the "instant of eternity" and "the start of the end"

the same space which you can watch worlds across universe, can path space do that? can any other "imaginary space" do that? No they are subordinate to the actual Imaginary Space hi3 has acknowledged
Combine that with its exitence many times confirmed to be beyond dimensions...i quite literally dont understand how do we sit here and still say its bound by dimensions...

I don’t think I have to spell out the glaring problem.

My man, this is insane, you literally have Ryusuke becoming one with the Higher Dimensional realm with actual R>F over lower dimensional beings, its why he saw welt as nothing but a fiction what the **** are you even talking about.
This is also applicable to aeons, which are also called higher-dimensional beings and they reside in Path Space, which would also view lower reality (real space) as fiction. literally how you got +1D for tree...

 

[AyOgUyS]

Combine that with its exitence many times confirmed to be beyond dimensions...i quite literally dont understand how do we sit here and still say its bound by dimensions...

I'm pretty sure we have a rule or smth (rightfully so) that statements of being "beyond dimensions" aren't enough for 1-A

 

[PedjaTarzan]

I'm pretty sure we have a rule or smth (rightfully so) that statements of being "beyond dimensions" aren't enough for 1-A

you are 3rd guy who assumes im arguing for 1-A bro...tho i might even see it atp. IMG space is that goated anyway.

 

[AyOgUyS]

you are 3rd guy who assumes im arguing for 1-A bro...tho i might even see it atp. IMG space is that goated anyway.

Why would you bring up R>F if you're not arguing for 1-A?

That's like bringing up universes while arguing for Mountain level upgrade like what?

(No, difference between higher and lower dimensions isn't R>F)

 

[SuperNova55555]

…you must transcend reality, become part of the imaginary space, and become a "slave" of the imaginary tree...

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Why would you bring up R>F if you're not arguing for 1-A?

That's like bringing up universes while arguing for Mountain level upgrade like what?

(No, difference between higher and lower dimensions isn't R>F)

Okay just see it as +1D for higher dimensional realm towards lower one its that simple.
Plus i think people alr said that not every R>F is 1-A

 

[PedjaTarzan]

does this guy even know which fight is exactly the reason for this being accepted in hoyoverse? Nova saying anything without thinking

This is the general accepted scans for Higher dimensions>Lower dimensions
Otto one is accepted for transcending reality to become part of imaginary space, it is his own +1D jump.
And you still didnt explain how is this anti feat for anything rly. it still proves superiority of imaginary space above everything. THE FACT He was merely a part of that space and slave? yeah thats enough bro

 

[AyOgUyS]

Okay just see it as +1D for higher dimensional realm towards lower one its that simple.
Plus i think people alr said that not every R>F is 1-A

well that's wrong

higher dimensions by definition are made up of lower dimensions

you can add uncountable infinite lower dimensions together to form a higher dimension

while R>F by definition is a difference in which no amount of the lower thing can ever equate to the higher thing

more info here

 

[PedjaTarzan]

well that's wrong

higher dimensions by definition are made up of lower dimensions

you can add uncountable infinite lower dimensions together to form a higher dimension

while R>F by definition is a difference in which no amount of the lower thing can ever equate to the higher thing

more info here

mf what i posted is quantitative superiority its literally accepted for years now, its so simple when you read the scan

 

[PedjaTarzan]

No.
Address this first

here, here, here, here and hell even this comment proves my point

 

[SuperNova55555]

I like how you strawman my critique by redirecting at something else that even I agree in, and then you snuggle in the object of my critique as something else completely unrelated:

Otto one is accepted for transcending reality to become part of imaginary space, it is his own +1D jump.

I agree +1D for Ryusuke shit. Not for Otto.

And also being the origin of something isn’t merely enough for +1D, and naturally, all Imaginary Spaces can project things, so “origin of laws” or “origin of universe” doesn’t require additional things. You can have differentiations between them, sure, but they’re fundamentally similar.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

I agree +1D for Ryusuke shit. Not for Otto.

youd have to kill glassman for that i dont even know what to say anymore here. its rly simple but aight

And also being the origin of something isn’t merely enough for +1D, and naturally, all Imaginary Spaces can project things, so “origin of laws” or “origin of universe” doesn’t require additional things. You can have differentiations between them, sure, but they’re fundamentally similar.

Theres genuenly no proof of this and u still havent adressed the fact those spaces are merely just domains and not actual imaginary space i talk about.

 

[SuperNova55555]

And also being the origin of something isn’t merely enough for +1D, and naturally, all Imaginary Spaces can project things, so “origin of laws” or “origin of universe” doesn’t require additional things. You can have differentiations between them, sure, but they’re fundamentally similar.

And also the most fundamental thing is that they don’t cause each-other to exist, rather only the 4-dimensional leaf worlds.

This is analogous to the functions of SoQ as well.

Theres genuenly no proof of this and u still havent adressed the fact those spaces are merely just domains and not actual imaginary space i talk about.

The domains might honestly just be Imaginary Space since both are explicitly located outside the leaves.

 

[SuperNova55555]

Also wasn’t Otto’s thingy also called a domain of Imaginary Space? Yea they’re prob just the same thing now that I think about it

 

[PedjaTarzan]

And also the most fundamental thing is that they don’t cause each-other to exist, rather only the 4-dimensional leaf worlds.

This is analogous to the functions of SoQ as well.

The domains might honestly just be Imaginary Space since both are explicitly located outside the leaves.

...are we deadass right now? okay... infinite origins of all creations then... infinite beyond dimensional spaces hoyo is cooking

Also wasn’t Otto’s thingy also called a domain of Imaginary Space? Yea they’re prob just the same thing now that I think about it

yeaaaa bcs its a part of it..not imaginary space itself imagine that!!! just like every "imaginary space" you are talking about

 

[SuperNova55555]

This is some of the worst tracking I’ve seen someone have. I wonder if ya’ll are gonna be like this when I remove all the Immeasurable Speed as well

 

[PedjaTarzan]

The domains might honestly just be Imaginary Space since both are explicitly located outside the leaves.

Also wasn’t Otto’s thingy also called a domain of Imaginary Space? Yea they’re prob just the same thing now that I think about it

This is some of the worst tracking I’ve seen someone have. I wonder if ya’ll are gonna be like this when I remove all the Immeasurable Speed as well

You:
:"domains might be just imaginary space"
:"otto church is called domain of imaginary space"
Me:
"yes because its a part of imaginary space, not imaginary space itself"
Also you:
"Dude you cant track!!!!"
This is when a dude who doesnt play the game goes on a spite streak with "yes i can nuke all this in 30 minutes" and then starts spouting nonsense

 

[SuperNova55555]

You:
:"domains might be just imaginary space"
:"otto church is called domain of imaginary space"
Me:
"yes because its a part of imaginary space, not imaginary space itself"
Also you:
"Dude you cant track!!!!"
This is when a dude who doesnt play the game goes on a spite streak with "yes i can nuke all this in 30 minutes" and then starts spouting nonsense

Are parts of space not space

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Are parts of space not space

then stop assuming they are same ******* Imaginary Space as one i posted scans billions of times already holy smokes dude.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Like how do you look at Ottos Church, Stigma Space, Path Space, whatever dimension sugars reside in ch 26 and you are like:
Yes they are all imaginary space, same one that birthed entire universe laws and shit despite those spaces being INFERIOR to it.

 

[SuperNova55555]

then stop assuming they are same ******* Imaginary Space as one i posted scans billions of times already holy smokes dude.

You can have multiple Imaginary Spaces, with differentiations between themselves. Nothing means one is somehow superior to the other when they’re all fundamentally the same.

But you won’t understand this either, I suppose:

...are we deadass right now? okay... infinite origins of all creations then... infinite beyond dimensional spaces hoyo is cooking

 

[SuperNova55555]

Like how do you look at Ottos Church, Stigma Space, Path Space, whatever dimension sugars reside in ch 26 and you are like:
Yes they are all imaginary space, same one that birthed entire universe laws and shit despite those spaces being INFERIOR to it.

The only one inferior here is Sugar Dimension. And that’s only to the Cocoon/Singularity and not Imaginary Space. But all Space is inferior to it in that sense, including Imaginary Space—since that is still Space, but just a chaotic kind.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

The only one inferior here is Sugar Dimension. And that’s only to the Cocoon/Singularity and not Imaginary Space. But all Space is inferior to it in that sense, including Imaginary Space—since that is still Space, but just a chaotic kind.

this is the same space welt cannot genuenly nuke even with singularity rebuild btw cant even affect it all, all other dimensions and realms? just fine. like if this is true what you said why didnt he nuke all of imaginary space bcs its not superior to sugar dimension? is he stupid?
fun fact when kiana destroyed ottos church guess what...Imaginary Space remained untouched, literally.

You can have multiple Imaginary Spaces, with differentiations between themselves. Nothing means one is somehow superior to the other when they’re all fundamentally the same.

is this the same fallacy you posted on me thinking ur tuff?
my man is not choso doing 6767 degrees flip

 

[Robo432343]

i found this statement about imaginary space but it still caps at around 4-D

 

[Da3ggman]

"Pleeeaase Nova I needed thiiiiss! My Gacha verse is kinda featless"

Nova, I'm watching your thread, why you trying not to laugh bruh

 

[SuperNova55555]

this is the same space welt cannot genuenly nuke even with singularity rebuild btw cant even affect it all, all other dimensions and realms?

I remember that scan, wasn’t Imaginary Soace manifested in the realm they were fighting? Seems very odd for a higher-dimensional place.

like if this is true what you said why didnt he nuke all of imaginary space bcs its not superior to sugar dimension?

No, they just scale the same.