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Honkai = Imaginary Internal Energy
Nanook’s Blood and Xipe’s Stellaron = Imaginary Internal Energy
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Honkai Cosmology Rework
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Nanook’s Blood and Xipe’s Stellaron = Imaginary Internal Energy
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Mf its Imaginary Tree not leaf worlds, you literally cannot make earth aleph 0D if its part of leaf world thats LOWEST into cardinality
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I mean this one
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Holy tracking.
Aleph-Null is a cardinal number bro. And what I’m saying is that Earth cannot have Aleph-0 dimensions (what Nether is stating) if it’s literally stated to be 4-dimensional.
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Aleph-0 multiverse is 2-A though?Mind you. The same leaf world being explicitly stated to be 4-dimensional is being wanked to Aleph-0 dimensions by a statement that doesn’t even say that.
The cardinality here is being used vaguely and I’ve heard from multiple sources that it’s just talking about Honkai energy
And mind you again. An Aleph-0 space doesn’t even qualify for Tier 2.
I disagree. I’m just saying that I don’t find it impossible for it to be true.
Idk what you're on but okay since you already voted
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Noo????
Any coordinate space (even 1 centimeter big) is inherently of the cardinality Aleph-1.
What you’re talking about is an Aleph-0 number of universes.
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So where does the entire infinite amount of dimensions statement refer to, then? The Tree itself? As in, since the lowest transfinite cardinal is 4-dimensional here for you, the Tree is infinite in relations to this, so it should be High 1-B
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I legit talked about aleph-0 dimensions and aleph-1 dimensions, and THEIR COORDINATE SPACE IS STATED TO BE INFINITE LINES IN PERPENDICULAR TO EACH OTHER NOVAAA
like it's stated the amount of dimensions can be infinite with their coordinate space being stated to be infinite lines to each other so infinite dimensional axis, it's this obvious
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I’m saying that leaf worlds probably don’t even qualify for Tier 2.
Which makes sense because they’re also not universe-sized.
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Why can you not track a single thing I’m saying???I legit talked about aleph-0 dimensions and aleph-1 dimensions, and THEIR COORDINATE SPACE IS STATED TO BE INFINITE LINES IN PERPENDICULAR TO EACH OTHER NOVAAA
like it's stated the amount of dimensions can be infinite with their coordinate space being stated to be infinite lines to each other so infinite dimensional axis, it's this obvious
You haven’t understood a single response I’ve made this entire thread bro. PLEASEEE
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Hey Nova do you know the Genshin universe is considered a leaf world and they're the size of our Observable Universe?
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Put me on disagree for H1B, neutral on 1C
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Yall remember low 2-c genshin on the profiles
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Because you legit said aleph-1 dimensions is an antifeat for baseline High 1-B+
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At the very least, isn't there definitely a ‘Honkai’ phenomenon occurring in Hi3?
And in the link above, there's a scene where the protagonist of Hi3 and a character from HSR are talking to each other.
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This is why I said probably because it’s talking about HI3 leaf world.
And it doesn’t even matter because I’m also saying the statement itself is nonsensical because it’s talking about HONKAI ENERGY.
It being Aleph-0 means genuinely fuckall.
For the love of god how is it this hard to understand a single thing I say.Because you legit said aleph-1 dimensions is an antifeat for baseline High 1-B+
Genuinely doomed fandom. Holy shit
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So would you agree with Honkai Energy having High 1-B or High 1-B+ Range by this point? Since you know, it's aleph-0 dimensions, doesnt matter it's compactified or not sooo... The Sea of Quanta is still 11-D range though that being said
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This is true.
For example, in the real number line, a subset such as the interval [0,1] has the same cardinality as the entire line, that is, aleph one.
[Properties - Cardinality section]
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Also put Berny and SweetDao as disagrees as well. Not just me
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SO WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY BROOO
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Aleph-0 is an anti-feat for most scaling.
Yoigiri is permanently locked out of High 3-A for not having infinity.
This would lock you out of Tier 2 if applied to cosmological structures rather than just Honkai Energy.
Aleph-1 is the standard cardinality for any space, 1-dimensional to any dimensional.
And I even linked you a wikipedia link which displays a way in which 0-dimensional constructs (yes, ZERO, so 11-C) can have Aleph-1 cardinality
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I'm talking about aleph-0 dimensions where the amount of dimensions here is infinite, they have infinite spatial axes too = High 1-B according to the standards, that's why I mentioned Hilbert Space..
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Not only do the scans say that space “can” but do you even know the context of those scans, if I were to ask you? What about canonicity? Do you know that either?
Because you were literally just conflating the cardinality of Honkai Energy for the space of Leaf Worlds by taking the scan out of context. Most of this is out context, in fact.
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If it's out of context then explain the full context from the visual novel, you explain it here rn
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Following, mostly leaning toward disagreement due to Nova’s response.
To add, completely disagree with the entire Hilbert space argument. There is no solid grounding beyond name-dropping Hilbert himself (rather than engaging with the abstract concept). If anything, invoking it this way comes off as a nominal fallacy used to justify H1-B.
To add, completely disagree with the entire Hilbert space argument. There is no solid grounding beyond name-dropping Hilbert himself (rather than engaging with the abstract concept). If anything, invoking it this way comes off as a nominal fallacy used to justify H1-B.
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Ngl im not convinced by this transfinite earth thing
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What I'm trying to say is that the ‘Honkai’ phenomenon occurs because trees and the sea are in a competitive relationship.
And IT is the overarching tree encompassing both the HSR and HI3 worlds. Furthermore, as you can see from the YouTube link above, the temporal backgrounds of HSR and HI3 are similar.
Therefore, couldn't we interpret that the trees and seas in HSR are also in a competitive relationship? After all, there isn't two trees, but one.
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This isn’t how it works. We’re not in a formal debate.
If mods think that you might be intentionally conflating or misinterpreting arguments out of context, it’s on you to explain them, because it’s you who is in suspicion here.
And one of those scans directly state that it’s only a possibility. So you have to prove the validity of it’s context.
I mean, these scans have been public for a long time, there’s obviously a good reason you haven’t used them to upgrade the verse earlier.
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We can't yet confirm whether the Genshin universe includes the leaves or refers to the entire universe within the Hoyoverse cosmology. As we know, Hoyoverse never implemented the multiverse in the literal sense, as they always refer to universe and leaves as worlds of varying sizes (planets to galaxies).
The Dragon Planet has been confirmed to exist within a true universe, and the current game setting is merely a false world created by the Primordial One: the world within an eggshell (its size is unclear). By the way, the Abyss also exists as a universe.
So, what is certain is that Genshin has two universes: the real universe where the Dragon World originated, the world explored by the Surtalogi or Octavia, and the Dark Universe, also known as the Abyss/Void Realm.
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Actually, I tried, and I brought it back in the L1-A thread, heck I brought it when I suggested the entire L1-A thread that made it created.
I explained the full context in there, you can look the Kiana Kaslana vs Irontomb or the Low 1-A thread where the Imaginary Singularity is accepted as Low 1-A, it is there.
So, since you think it's out of context, the burden is on you generally, not me since you'd have to prove why it's out of context with scans linked. This is how it works everytime.
Also my main concern if everything is Low 1-C, literally everyone would scale on this level including the Pathstriders since S-Rank who scales directly from Ether Bathtub in HI3 is comparable to Pathstriders which is why I proposed the 1-C addition to fix the verse.
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Yeah whoop his ass yogiriBlud getting tackle for free
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By the way, since it was brought up.
If we accept Aleph-0 refers to leaves here, and we accept that Genshin is a leaf, then we’ll have to downgrade the genshin universe from Low 2-C to 3-A, since only IT has valid cardinality.
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As I said, we shouldn't arbitrarily say the Genshin universe is a leaf just because they're within one cosmology. The Genshin universe hasn't been explained in detail, whether it's just a leaf or whether this universe actually refers to the Hoyoverse cosmology as a whole.
If Genshin is indeed revealed and proven to be a leaf, I dont think so, but if it's only based on interpretations from scans in Honkai, I'll defend it.
The Genshin universe is literally said to have an infinite flow of time.
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Kiana Kaslana Vs Irontomb (Honkai: Star Rail Vs Honkai Impact 3rd)
No, the singularity is not a 0-dimensional point, it's a dimensionless "Pure Singularity" that doesn't have any dimensional information. This is the nature of the Cocoon of Finality that transcends all dimensions in the verse basically, regarding Low 1-A, that tier is easily achieved if you're...
Low 1-A Honkai Upgrade
Definitely not but anyways, let's not derail the thread, I'm gonna downgrade her personally. gl with that
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You cant be telling that when u have Otto apocalypse outright looking at teyvat trough imaginary tree please
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Why do you keep doing this?? You didn’t explain the context in either of those arguments; you’re just explaining the OP again, which is not what I’m asking.Kiana Kaslana Vs Irontomb (Honkai: Star Rail Vs Honkai Impact 3rd)
No, the singularity is not a 0-dimensional point, it's a dimensionless "Pure Singularity" that doesn't have any dimensional information. This is the nature of the Cocoon of Finality that transcends all dimensions in the verse basically, regarding Low 1-A, that tier is easily achieved if you're...vsbattles.com
Low 1-A Honkai Upgrade
Definitely not but anyways, let's not derail the thread, I'm gonna downgrade her personally. gl with that
Is it possible that you don’t actually know the context of the scans you’re using lmao???
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