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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

he's mid air he can't dodge, he takes the hit and grabs Sukuna to throw him
Even if ur mid air u can still adjust ur position when someone goes to punch you, this seems to be exactly what yuji is doing. Sukuna dashed at him to punch him and yuji used sukuna's own arm to grab onto something and slightly rotate his body. It still grazes him obviously cause Sukuna is literally dashing at him at high speeds but it doesnt pierce through him at all.
 
he's saying yuji is ignoring his combination of strikes and slashes after hitting him with strikes and slashes individually
But the damage they are doing is extremely superficial and is not pushing Yuji back at all. We see that cleaves actually make Yuji be flung back a bit, and, before Yuji hit any black flashes, during the beginning of the fight dismantles waves were sending Yuji and Yuta FLYING backwards.

Yuji because of the constant black flash amps got to a point where the dismantles are doing basically insignificant damage and sukuna's punches is the same thing as gojo punching sukuna during their fight, it damages and hurts him yes but hes IMMEDIATLY recovering. This isnt possible without a high durability
 
But the damage they are doing is extremely superficial and is not pushing Yuji back at all. We see that cleaves actually make Yuji be flung back a bit, and, before Yuji hit any black flashes, during the beginning of the fight dismantles waves were sending Yuji and Yuta FLYING backwards.
cleaves never send Yuji back, they didn't the first 2 times they hit him either
 
Even if ur mid air u can still adjust ur position when someone goes to punch you, this seems to be exactly what yuji is doing. Sukuna dashed at him to punch him and yuji used sukuna's own arm to grab onto something and slightly rotate his body. It still grazes him obviously cause Sukuna is literally dashing at him at high speeds but it doesnt pierce through him at all.
the fact that we see blood spraying out of his side would mean this is incorrect
 
Yuji hit any black flashes, during the beginning of the fight dismantles waves were sending Yuji and Yuta FLYING backwards.

Yuji because of the constant black flash amps got to a point where the dismantles are doing basically insignificant damage and sukuna's punches is the same thing as gojo punching sukuna during their fight
This Sukuna is also like... gazillion times weaker than before
 
Do you think Yuji by the time of shinjuku is still grade 1 level? Cause Choso is straight up confirmed to be by Kenjaku so like? And we see special grades like Yuta can one shot grade 1s easily, now imagine Sukuna.
Yuji DIES to Kenjaku just like Choso would've.

I feel like the fact he drew it makes it a distinction to begin with. Especially since it's common sense that everyone knows that less surface area equals more piercing powers. It's why so many mangaka's have bullets hurt character's who shouldn't be hurt by that level of KE.
He's just drawing what looks cool, it's really got nothing to do with Gege taking into account surface area.

we're serious.
Even just using the manga itself, Yuji's compared to Ryu and Choso has no such comparison, using Choso, some grade one level fighter, getting pierced means nothing
That Ryu comparison is in general. It's never JUST about Yuta and Yuji, he quite literally follows it up with "damn they all got durable"
Ryu > Yuta
Eldemade only argues otherwise cuz then his king Yuji isn't top 5 🥀
 
the fact that we see blood spraying out of his side would mean this is incorrect
U can still draw blood and not pierce through a person, Yuji is constantly doing yhis to sukuna himself even, Yuji aint stronger than sukuna here so ofc a hit is gonna make him bleed, are you gonna say sukuna isnt near gojo's level cause punches from Gojo were making him spit blood?

I agree that Sukuna still hit yuji here and it did damage but it was a graze hit, not smth that ripped yuji's side open as u said
 
Yuji DIES to Kenjaku just like Choso would've.
Uhm.. ok and?
I dont deny kenjaku > yuji

Im saying kenjaku literally says word by word that choso is on par with a grade 1 sorcerer and confirms this by sending grade 1 sorcerer level spirits to beat him.

Im asking, do you think SHINJUKU YUJI is grade 1?
 
That Ryu comparison is in general.
It was not general. It was clear they don't surpasses it doesn't mean they are below it either. It's pretty clear they are around there otherwise he wouldn't be comparing them to Ryu.
It's never JUST about Yuta and Yuji, he quite literally follows it up with "damn they all got durable"
Ryu > Yuta
Eldemade only argues otherwise cuz then his king Yuji isn't top 5 🥀
I'm pretty sure I made it clear Shinjuku Domain amped Yuta and Base Yuji are around Ryu's level in durability.
Yeah Ryu's Durability > Yuta's Durability outside the domain.
 
Uhm.. ok and?
I dont deny kenjaku > yuji

Im saying kenjaku literally says word by word that choso is on par with a grade 1 sorcerer and confirms this by sending grade 1 sorcerer level spirits to beat him.
Yuji on the same level. And Kenjaku didn't send grade 1 sorcerer level spirits, he amped them with his own cursed energy.
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Why are we downplaying Choso in 2026???
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This Sukuna is also like... gazillion times weaker than before
Also eh?
Hes def weaker yea but he was not that weakened by this point until yuji nerfed him in the scene in question

Even after Sukuna uses domain its said his CE level is on par with Yuta's when Yuta in Gojo's body shows up, this is the same amount of CE he had in the beginning of the fight, his output is def weaker yes but to say hes gazillions of times weaker is false, he also regained alot of his output via spamming black flashes on maki. Its literally said that IF yuji hadnt done all those black flashes, sukuna would have enough output for rct even
 
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He's just drawing what looks cool, it's really got nothing to do with Gege taking into account surface area.
Prove that. It's quite common sense that a jab would have more piercing power than a punch. It's quite common in manga for people to burst through someone's chest using their fingers instead of their fist. It's just intuitive that the pointier fingers/nails would pierce better than a Knuckle. That's not say a knuckle can't, but it seems intuitive to most people on an instinctive level.
 
Yuji on the same level. And Kenjaku didn't send grade 1 sorcerer level spirits, he amped them with his own cursed energy.
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Why are we downplaying Choso in 2026???
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Uhm... read the scan?
Kenjaku is saying that the spirits ALONGSIDE his energy take out grade 1s on CHOSO'S LEVEL. Hes directly saying choso is grade 1 level here.

And btw by saying yuji is at the same level, ur saying yuta is physically a grade 1 too, gl defending that ig
 
U can still draw blood and not pierce through a person, Yuji is constantly doing yhis to sukuna himself even, Yuji aint stronger than sukuna here so ofc a hit is gonna make him bleed, are you gonna say sukuna isnt near gojo's level cause punches from Gojo were making him spit blood?

I agree that Sukuna still hit yuji here and it did damage but it was a graze hit, not smth that ripped yuji's side open as u said
...? Spitting blood and getting punched hard enough that blood SPRAYS from your side are not equivalent. A "grazing punch" wouldn't cause blood to spray from the point of impact. It was clearly a direct hit.
 
In the domain scene, black flash amped Yuji gets sent flying back by the cleaves.
And the first 2 times he gets hit with it he doesn't. Additionally, knockback from attacks is proof your durability is BETTER than the attacks. Not the other way around. Knockback happens because your body doesn't give way, tanks the hit, but the energy still moves you.
 
Uhm... read the scan?
Kenjaku is saying that the spirits ALONGSIDE his energy take out grade 1s on CHOSO'S LEVEL. Hes directly saying choso is grade 1 level here.

And btw by saying yuji is at the same level, ur saying yuta is physically a grade 1 too, gl defending that ig
Yuta is a fraud @Mommyleona can vouch for it😌
 
Prove that. It's quite common sense that a jab would have more piercing power than a punch. It's quite common in manga for people to burst through someone's chest using their fingers instead of their fist. It's just intuitive that the pointier fingers/nails would pierce better than a Knuckle. That's not say a knuckle can't, but it seems intuitive to most people on an instinctive level.
I think Sukuna punching through Yuji makes it clear bro just writes whatever looks cool unless you think Sukuna also did a finger jab here too. I'm not saying that doesn't make sense, but it's just a jump from Gege's just drawing cool shit to Gege's specifically taking into account smaller surface area = more piercing damage for Choso's specific example.
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Kenjaku is saying that the spirits ALONGSIDE his energy take out grade 1s on CHOSO'S LEVEL. Hes directly saying choso is grade 1 level here.
"After ENHANCING THEM WITH MY CURSED ENERGY"
Grade 1 is a wide range, so it's not really contradicting much
 
...? Spitting blood and getting punched hard enough that blood SPRAYS from your side are not equivalent. A "grazing punch" wouldn't cause blood to spray from the point of impact. It was clearly a direct hit.
Im basically saying that sukuna making yuji bleed from the side doesnt really mean anything, he didnt pierce through him, and even yuji and mahito were making each other bleed from punching each other in the sides too. Im pretty sure when gojo does that punch near sukuna's crotch u see blood spit out (tho im not sure abt this)

Basically yuji was still indeed getting way stronger and more durable with each black flash they were stacking making yuji climb to sukuna's level. Damn even if you dont want to take ALL THE SHOWINGS he does as hes climbing just compare how cleave normally cuts him between before and after. Yes he lost an eye, but normally his whole head would be chopped off by that. Look at ryu who Yuji was comparable to in the beginning of the fight
 
And btw by saying yuji is at the same level, ur saying yuta is physically a grade 1 too, gl defending that ig
You can't READ.
We're originally discussing Shinjuku characters. The characters who all got much stronger from Sukuna's own mouth. Choso falls into this, so SURE you wanna think Kenjaku fight Choso is just Grade 1 cuz Kenjaku enhanced dozens of curses to swarm him means he's weak by all means be delusional.
 
I think Sukuna punching through Yuji makes it clear bro just writes whatever looks cool unless you think Sukuna also did a finger jab here too. I'm not saying that doesn't make sense, but it's just a jump from Gege's just drawing cool shit to Gege's specifically taking into account smaller surface area = more piercing damage for Choso's specific example.
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sukuna didn't punch through yuji the force of the punch just blew out the back of his shirt
 
Im basically saying that sukuna making yuji bleed from the side doesnt really mean anything, he didnt pierce through him, and even yuji and mahito were making each other bleed from punching each other in the sides too. Im pretty sure when gojo does that punch near sukuna's crotch u see blood spit out (tho im not sure abt this)
Nobody in either of those exchanges punched the other in the side and had it spray blood. Spitting up some blood when you get hit is an entirely different level of damage. I never argued Sukuna's hand went straight through Yuji lmfao I'm saying it ripped through his side.
Basically yuji was still indeed getting way stronger and more durable with each black flash they were stacking making yuji climb to sukuna's level. Damn even if you dont want to take ALL THE SHOWINGS he does as hes climbing just compare how cleave normally cuts him between before and after. Yes he lost an eye, but normally his whole head would be chopped off by that. Look at ryu who Yuji was comparable to in the beginning of the fight
if you think cleave is manually adjusted then it's kind of irrelevant for scaling lmfao, Sukuna is canonically heavily disinterested in Yuji and his interest levels equal his power
 
I think Sukuna punching through Yuji makes it clear bro just writes whatever looks cool unless you think Sukuna also did a finger jab here too. I'm not saying that doesn't make sense, but it's just a jump from Gege's just drawing cool shit to Gege's specifically taking into account smaller surface area = more piercing damage for Choso's specific example.
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Pretty sure he didn't punch through Yuji here
 
"After ENHANCING THEM WITH MY CURSED ENERGY"
Grade 1 is a wide range, so it's not really contradicting much
Yea.. after enhancing them, they go from low tier curses as he says to beating grade 1s at Choso's level and yes Grade 1 is a wide range but its quite literally evident that the gap between a special grade and a grade 1 is insane. Saying Choso is near Yuji's level in Shinjuku is just not true man, you are comparing grade 1 level physicals to Yuta / ~<Ryu level physicals, Yuji is gapping so hard.

You can't READ.
We're originally discussing Shinjuku characters. The characters who all got much stronger from Sukuna's own mouth. Choso falls into this, so SURE you wanna think Kenjaku fight Choso is just Grade 1 cuz Kenjaku enhanced dozens of curses to swarm him means he's weak by all means be delusional.
Theres literally 0 things supporting Choso being special grade sorcerer level by the time of the sukuna fight, the amps dont increase them that much for that otherwise u'd have special grade kukusabe.
And im not saying hes weak, idk where the idea that grade 1 = weak came from. Hes just not near Yuji's level cause Yuji is far into special grade physically by this point
 
Nobody in either of those exchanges punched the other in the side and had it spray blood. Spitting up some blood when you get hit is an entirely different level of damage. I never argued Sukuna's hand went straight through Yuji lmfao I'm saying it ripped through his side.
This might just be me tripping cause its almost 3AM, so sorry if I am but,

Isnt yuji literally making sukuna's body spray blood with punches here asw? And im sure theres other examples.

if you think cleave is manually adjusted then it's kind of irrelevant for scaling lmfao, Sukuna is canonically heavily disinterested in Yuji and his interest levels equal his power
I do think Sukuna was actually trying during chapter 257. He was literally panicking cause Yuji would not be fazed at all. I do agree that, beforehand, Sukuna was disinterested but even during those times, he ALWAYS tried to one shot Yuji with cleave. It would always cut through yuji's body like butter. He wasnt holding back cleave, it literally would have been fatal if it wasnt for rct which sukuna didnt know he had.
 
This might just be me tripping cause its almost 3AM, so sorry if I am but,

Isnt yuji literally making sukuna's body spray blood with punches here asw? And im sure theres other examples.

These are impacts.
I do think Sukuna was actually trying during chapter 257. He was literally panicking cause Yuji would not be fazed at all. I do agree that, beforehand, Sukuna was disinterested but even during those times, he ALWAYS tried to one shot Yuji with cleave. It would always cut through yuji's body like butter. He wasnt holding back cleave, it literally would have been fatal if it wasnt for rct which sukuna didnt know he had.
Trying to kill someone =/= not holding back. He literally tries to kill Ryu with his first attack and is holding back. We KNOW for a FACT he doesn't try unless he's interested. Him being stressed doesn't change that.
 
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