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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Actually, I'd argue it should be limited or that Special Grade Curses should get an unconventional form it. Probably the former.

It negates people from becoming cursed spirits in death, but it does not prevent cursed spirits like the Disaster Curses from reincarnating it appears or people in general from reincarnating.
 
They likely do. Otherwise Sukuna's statement in regards to Yuji doesn't really work
or maybe its just accelerated development, not to mention that's one of a kind statement

the initial amp is from entering the zone, i dont see why you would get that amp again and again, nothing ever says hitting more black flashes makes you get even stronger continuously

Yuji chained bfs against Hanami, we do not see any noticeable increase in his stats

Nanami chained 4 black flashes, he doesnt comment on growing stronger and stronger, just on the initial boost
 
It negates people from becoming cursed spirits in death, but it does not prevent cursed spirits like the Disaster Curses from reincarnating it appears or people in general from reincarnating.
I think it's different. The disaster curses can come back since people are still gonna fear their concept even across several years until new cursed energy builds up. I also don't think it's LITERALLY reincarnation, they won't have the same memories or thoughts, since otherwise Mahito and Jogo's domain wouldn't be incomplete
 
I think it's different. The disaster curses can come back since people are still gonna fear their concept even across several years until new cursed energy builds up. I also don't think it's LITERALLY reincarnation, they won't have the same memories or thoughts, since otherwise Mahito and Jogo's domain wouldn't be incomplete
we'll see with Mahito

also reincarnation doesnt mean you remain all the memories
 
or maybe its just accelerated development, not to mention that's one of a kind statement
Tbf the wording does imply that the black flashes are the cause he's getting stronger not accelerated development
Otherwise why would him "chaining black flashes" mean anything here and be the thing leads Sukuna to the conclusion of him climbing to his level?
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I think it just implies that the black flashes are helping him grow in strength, not that the specific black flash buff gets reapplied
 
I think it just implies that the black flashes are helping him grow in strength, not that the specific black flash buff gets reapplied
I'm just saying the black flashes are indeed the thing making him grow in stats so they are "stacking" in a way, idk if that multipler would be 1.2x constantly or just 1.2x to base constantly or smth, but regardless they do indeed stack SOME power
 
I mean, using repeated black flashes allows you to do things you wouldn't be able to do naturally. He lands like 9 total and then pops a domain, Sukuna lands 3 and uses different parts of his brain for a domain and changes his handsign, Gojo landed 2 and used different parts of his brain for RCT. It does something but I don't think there's any proof it's a direct power increase, more like it just makes you capable of things
 
I mean, using repeated black flashes allows you to do things you wouldn't be able to do naturally. He lands like 9 total and then pops a domain, Sukuna lands 3 and uses different parts of his brain for a domain and changes his handsign, Gojo landed 2 and used different parts of his brain for RCT. It does something but I don't think there's any proof it's a direct power increase, more like it just makes you capable of things
Sukuna after Yuji hits just 4 black flashes notes that Yuji's physical capabilities are so strong by this point he is quite literally UNFAZED by his combination of slashes and strikes:
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He wasn't like this even after two black flashes so yes in just 2 more black flashes he stacked enough to be unfazed by sukuna's strikes and slashes
 
Sukuna after just Yuji hits 4 black flashes notes that Yuji's physical capabilities are so strong by this point he is quite literally UNFAZED by his slashes and strikes:
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He wasn't like this even after two black flashes so yes in just 2 more black flashes he stacked enough to be unfazed by sukuna's strikes and slashes
this isn't his physical abilities he's just locked in enough to completely ignore the damage, during this exchange his face gets cut to hell, his side gets ripped open, and he loses an eye
 
I mean, using repeated black flashes allows you to do things you wouldn't be able to do naturally. He lands like 9 total and then pops a domain, Sukuna lands 3 and uses different parts of his brain for a domain and changes his handsign, Gojo landed 2 and used different parts of his brain for RCT. It does something but I don't think there's any proof it's a direct power increase, more like it just makes you capable of things
it likely deepens your understanding of CE (tho i dont think Gojo and Sukuna one is because of bfs), we most clearly see that with Mahito, who himself says he needs to land another bf to fully grasp his soul
 
this isn't his physical abilities he's just locked in enough to completely ignore the damage, during this exchange his face gets cut to hell, his side gets ripped open, and he loses an eye
The eye loss is via a cleave which is way stronger than sukuna's strikes and dismantles, and the point sukuna is making is that he's doing extremely superficial damage to Yuji and not even pushing him back anymore, this IS durability, otherwise even if he ignored the damage (which he does alot), he'd get pushed back just like in the beginning of the fight.
 
On sukuna's profile, his speed now scales to his dismantle cloud cutting feat yet his range isn't "Up to Kilometers" for cutting said cloud
Is this a simple edit fix or what?
 
Unrelated to what ur answering, but ur example just proves it stacking further, gojo's second black flash which allowed him to establish rct again literally only worked because it made part of his output return (which is a boost)

Kukusabe literally says: "Gojo has regained output for reverse cursed technique thanks to black flash..."
This is his second black flash of the fight, if it didn't stack, how did it boost his output?
 
Unrelated to what ur answering, but gojo's second black flash which allowed him to establish rct again literally only worked because it made part of his output return (which is a boost)

Kukusabe literally says: "Gojo has regained output for reverse cursed technique thanks to black flash..."
This is his second black flash of the fight, if it didn't stack, how did it boost his output?
Gojo regained his RCT output because of the black flashes, the black flashes which allowed him to use other parts of his brain because the part that normally uses RCT wasn't doing it.

Sukuna does the exact same thing with his domain except his specific RCT output is gutted due to Yuji's black flashes. It still allowed him to use other parts of his brain despite his output being no better than it was.
 
The eye loss is via a cleave which is way stronger than sukuna's strikes and dismantles, and the point sukuna is making is that he's doing extremely superficial damage to Yuji and not even pushing him back anymore, this IS durability, otherwise even if he ignored the damage (which he does alot), he'd get pushed back just like in the beginning of the fight.
Sukuna rips Yuji's side open with a punch
 
Can having soulhax or NPI with immaterial/abstract things substitute for it?
Soul hax wouldn't substitute for it, but as it is a hax and Cursed Spirits have souls it just negates their durability as normal hax does. NPI could be argued as well, since some curses do seem to be essentially intangible towards normal people but I don't think that alone would normally qualify.
 
Comparing choso to yuji is crazy

Also once choso uses hardened blood he blocks not just a punch but a black flash from Sukuna
"Yuji's a gazillion times stronger!!"
You can't be serious.

Tbf, that's not a punch. Sukuna's fingers are evidently pointed out so it pierces more like a spear. That would be more like, some kinda finger jab
I doubt it's a serious distinction Gege made to imply Sukuna's punches can't pierce Choso or anyone for that matter is all.
 
I mean that's kinda just an argument from incredulity tbh
Tbf did it even "pierce through yuji's chest"
It more seems like yuji slightly dodged it so it seems to simply graze him which still made blood come out but saying he ripped his side open doesnt seem true (from what I can see)

We see how it actually looks when yuji gets cut open during the domain scene by cleaves and even after all the black flashes and still being in his awakened state, he cant just ignore such high damage
 
"Yuji's a gazillion times stronger!!"
You can't be serious.
Do you think Yuji by the time of shinjuku is still grade 1 level? Cause Choso is straight up confirmed to be by Kenjaku so like? And we see special grades like Yuta can one shot grade 1s easily, now imagine Sukuna.
 
I mean that's kinda just an argument from incredulity tbh
He literally said a combination of strikes and slashes, and we know he can cover his hands with slashes. This is not an argument from incredulity. By Occam’s razor, it’s the simplest assumption, rather than assuming that only at that specific point did Sukuna’s hand pierce through, especially when weakened—when Yuji could tank attacks from a stronger version of Sukuna without sustaining serious injuries from his kicks and strikes.
 
I doubt it's a serious distinction Gege made to imply Sukuna's punches can't pierce Choso or anyone for that matter is all.
I feel like the fact he drew it makes it a distinction to begin with. Especially since it's common sense that everyone knows that less surface area equals more piercing powers. It's why so many mangaka's have bullets hurt character's who shouldn't be hurt by that level of KE.
 
He literally said a combination of strikes and slashes, and we know he can cover his hands with slashes. This is not an argument from incredulity. By Occam’s razor, it’s the simplest assumption, rather than assuming that only at that specific point did Sukuna’s hand pierce through, especially when weakened—when Yuji could tank attacks from a stronger version of Sukuna without sustaining serious injuries from his kicks and strikes.
he's saying yuji is ignoring his combination of strikes and slashes after hitting him with strikes and slashes individually
 
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