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I'll split this into two parts.
1. It was accepted here that the Tree should scale to the Sea of Quanta since it's apparently born from the "primordial chaos", but the same statement stated that the Tree became a huge, unrivaled Tree — Which means, undisputedly the Tree would have to be superior than the Sea of Quanta whatsoever, not to mention the entire "cosmos" thing that makes Imaginary Space (Path Space of the Aeons) as the trunk to be comparable to the Real Space or the physical plane of the Tree, this simply doesn't make sense for 2 parts (Irontomb is unable to affect the Path Space and it's only able to do so because it focused all its efforts to the Path of Erudition itself) — Aeons who reside in the Path Space as explained in Khaslana's section have to descend to the physical plane, where it's explained in the Simulated Universe and even Mare's statement that well, Aeons in the physical plane are simply projections of them from the Path Space which is why Irontomb's destruction of the cosmos, or the entire physical plane of the Tree is unable to affect other Aeons + Nanook still had other 6 Lord Ravagers to kill other Aeons for a reason.
2. We retain the entire Sea of Quanta (especially Ether Bathtub and Sugar Space dimension) to be lesser than when Otto himself became part of the Tree after transcending reality which is the former that I've mentioned and this is still accepted as a +1 dimensional difference, the Aeons are obviously superior than this.
Ether Bathtub is able to contain infinite quantity of 4-D Bubble Worlds, and that it cannot be described in a 3 or 4 dimensional framework in the Ether Bathtub section.
With this conclusion, the Ether Bathtub and the Sugar Space dimension that's within SoQ are 5-D, the physical plane of the Tree is 6-D through Otto and 7-D from Aeons given their superiority over the physical plane.
But I am not done yet, it was also accepted in the thread that the dimensions refer to the amount of them being infinite instead of their size, it's stated "can be" however Honkai also uses Hilbert Space and there's this particular Einstein statement that if transfinite cardinals are applied, Earth would be the lowest transfinite cardinal which is to say that it would simply be the equivalent of a Hilbert Space, whether the size is infinite or not, I don't think it should matter since it's still High 1-B as long as the amount of dimensions there is infinite and the Tree being "infinite" in relations to this would mean it's Aleph 1, this applies for the Aeons who would be High 1-B+.
More about this is explained right here
vsbattles.com
I'm writing my summary here, but basically after 4 pages of discussion, nothing had really changed that the thread I linked above especially for the Visual Novel scan alone to atleast be High 1-B, it used to go against SoQ being 11-D because it was used as the justification for their size being infinite in the blog but since it's accepted to refer as in the amount of dimensions instead, High 1-B is pretty much plausible here excluding the Einstein statement about transfinite cardinals and so on.
1. It was accepted here that the Tree should scale to the Sea of Quanta since it's apparently born from the "primordial chaos", but the same statement stated that the Tree became a huge, unrivaled Tree — Which means, undisputedly the Tree would have to be superior than the Sea of Quanta whatsoever, not to mention the entire "cosmos" thing that makes Imaginary Space (Path Space of the Aeons) as the trunk to be comparable to the Real Space or the physical plane of the Tree, this simply doesn't make sense for 2 parts (Irontomb is unable to affect the Path Space and it's only able to do so because it focused all its efforts to the Path of Erudition itself) — Aeons who reside in the Path Space as explained in Khaslana's section have to descend to the physical plane, where it's explained in the Simulated Universe and even Mare's statement that well, Aeons in the physical plane are simply projections of them from the Path Space which is why Irontomb's destruction of the cosmos, or the entire physical plane of the Tree is unable to affect other Aeons + Nanook still had other 6 Lord Ravagers to kill other Aeons for a reason.
2. We retain the entire Sea of Quanta (especially Ether Bathtub and Sugar Space dimension) to be lesser than when Otto himself became part of the Tree after transcending reality which is the former that I've mentioned and this is still accepted as a +1 dimensional difference, the Aeons are obviously superior than this.
Ether Bathtub is able to contain infinite quantity of 4-D Bubble Worlds, and that it cannot be described in a 3 or 4 dimensional framework in the Ether Bathtub section.
With this conclusion, the Ether Bathtub and the Sugar Space dimension that's within SoQ are 5-D, the physical plane of the Tree is 6-D through Otto and 7-D from Aeons given their superiority over the physical plane.
But I am not done yet, it was also accepted in the thread that the dimensions refer to the amount of them being infinite instead of their size, it's stated "can be" however Honkai also uses Hilbert Space and there's this particular Einstein statement that if transfinite cardinals are applied, Earth would be the lowest transfinite cardinal which is to say that it would simply be the equivalent of a Hilbert Space, whether the size is infinite or not, I don't think it should matter since it's still High 1-B as long as the amount of dimensions there is infinite and the Tree being "infinite" in relations to this would mean it's Aleph 1, this applies for the Aeons who would be High 1-B+.
More about this is explained right here
Honkai Cosmology Rework
I'll split this into two parts. 1. It was accepted here that the Tree should scale to the Sea of Quanta since it's apparently born from the "primordial chaos", but the same statement stated that the Tree became a huge, unrivaled Tree — Which means, undisputedly the Tree would have to be...
I'm writing my summary here, but basically after 4 pages of discussion, nothing had really changed that the thread I linked above especially for the Visual Novel scan alone to atleast be High 1-B, it used to go against SoQ being 11-D because it was used as the justification for their size being infinite in the blog but since it's accepted to refer as in the amount of dimensions instead, High 1-B is pretty much plausible here excluding the Einstein statement about transfinite cardinals and so on.
Staff Votes
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- • Neutral:
- • Staff Disapproval: Vietthai96
Member Votes
- • Agree: Re5yh, Mbpoops, LoudestProcedure, Maniaunavailable (Disagree for High 1-B), KingOfDarknessBelow
- • Neutral: Dragopentling, EddisherSound (Disagree for High 1-B)
- • Disagree: Super_Nova, ExcelsIsBerny, SweetDao, Vesxpura, Yanina92, korea1234
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