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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

Oh crap, Rouge's page is outdated that badly??? Sheesh.

I don't think a CRT is required to correct stats that should no longer exist on a page. Would somebody be willing to update her and put the justification as the Stats Blog linked under Explanation Blogs in the Verse Page? (I am currently working until about 4 hours from now so I won't be able to)
Upgrade her Adventure appearances to just 4-B and link this blog under the explanations, right?
 
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I shall make conversation abt two things

Maybe I'm dumb but I still don't get how ppl downplay the Egg Wizard feat so heavily. Like I can kinda understand the Planet Busting laser point but it also requires ignoring pretty much every other statement about the Power of the Stars and the power of the Chaos and Sol Emeralds. I've even heard one take of the PotS being at least the anchor and stabilizing link of Sonic and Blaze's dimensions is just hax

Just realized Maginaryworld also comes in clutch for Time Eater bc if there's any extra sources confirming the real Eggman was in Maginaryworld, then TE has a likely possibility to have had eaten maginaryworld without any external sources also you have to wonder what spacetime tastes like it cannot be that good for all these world devourers
 
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Upgrade her Adventure appearances to just 4-B and link this blog under the explanations, right?
Yup. I saw your edit, thank you for the save! I now declare you EPIC.
Maybe I'm dumb but I still don't get how ppl downplay the Egg Wizard feat so heavily. Like I can kinda understand the Planet Busting laser point but it also requires ignoring pretty much every other statement about the Power of the Stars and the power of the Chaos and Sol Emeralds. I've even heard one take of the PotS being at least the anchor and stabilizing link of Sonic and Blaze's dimensions is just hax
At this stage, 90% of people who say these things are speaking either from willful ignorance (primarily those who aren't knowledgeable on the verse but see the downplay and piggyback it) or being a purposeful detractor. You're right, it takes ignoring statements or trying to apply it as hax.

The other 10% are what I would call people who just genuinely believe it, to which... I disagree, but I can at least be cordial about it.
Just realized Maginaryworld also comes in clutch for Time Eater bc if there's any extra sources confirming the real Eggman was in Maginaryworld, then TE has a likely possibility to have had eaten maginaryworld without any external sources
I can't remember if the manual has any mention of why Eggman is there, I feel like I may have seen a statement but it could just be an overactive imagination or misremembering a different instance/manual. Hmm
 
Yup. I saw your edit, thank you for the save! I now declare you EPIC.

At this stage, 90% of people who say these things are speaking either from willful ignorance (primarily those who aren't knowledgeable on the verse but see the downplay and piggyback it) or being a purposeful detractor. You're right, it takes ignoring statements or trying to apply it as hax.

The other 10% are what I would call people who just genuinely believe it, to which... I disagree, but I can at least be cordial about it.

I can't remember if the manual has any mention of why Eggman is there, I feel like I may have seen a statement but it could just be an overactive imagination or misremembering a different instance/manual. Hmm
Eggman learned of the power of the Precioustone and followed Sonic into Maginaryworld. Sonic Shuffle US Manual.
 
I can't remember if the manual has any mention of why Eggman is there, I feel like I may have seen a statement but it could just be an overactive imagination or misremembering a different instance/manual. Hmm
Both the ENG and JP manuals do state that it's the real Eggman, tho having more statements would make it feel a lot more solid
 
Eggman learned of the power of the Precioustone and followed Sonic into Maginaryworld. Sonic Shuffle US Manual.
Ah, I knew it. Thanks
Both the ENG and JP manuals do state that it's the real Eggman, tho having more statements would make it feel a lot more solid
I can understand why you say that, but there's a point where skeptics will be skeptics no matter how many statements you give 'em (this is me assuming your tendency to want as much evidence as possible is a result of Redditors always demanding more evidence, but that's as useful as trying to fill in a black hole. Lemme know if I was off the mark lol)
 
Can we can a RIP for my friend off site?
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My first 360 game.
Mine was Lego Batman and some Dirtbike game that came in a bundle package.

06 WAS my first 360 Sonic game though. As an 8-year-old, I enjoyed it with stars in my eyes. Funnily enough, I got stuck on Sonic's first Mach Speed section for like a solid day and the game basically FORCED me to improve and adapt. It's crazy looking back at it lol
 
Mine was Lego Batman and some Dirtbike game that came in a bundle package.

06 WAS my first 360 Sonic game though. As an 8-year-old, I enjoyed it with stars in my eyes. Funnily enough, I got stuck on Sonic's first Mach Speed section for like a solid day and the game basically FORCED me to improve and adapt. It's crazy looking back at it lol
That's really cool. I remember playing Lego Batman on the PlayStation 2, around the same time as Lego Indiana Jones.
 
This one as well. 🙏

 
Hello.

The scalkng for the following page seems to need to get properly updated. 🙏

This one as well. 🙏

Those edits were preformed with the intent of updating to the currently accepted stats from the scaling blog on the verse page. It seems the link to said blog was mistakenly not put in the edit summary
 
Ya forgot to do this part
I don't think I did? I linked that last part under where they were meant to go. Unless you meant putting that in the "Describe what you changed" part which yeah, my bad. I saw a couple edits which didn't link anything like that and just described the changes, and I felt it would be fine esp since those changes were already accepted
 
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I don't think I did? I linked that last part under where they were meant to go. Unless you meant putting that in the "Describe what you changed" part which yeah, my bad. I saw a couple edits which didn't do that and I felt it would be fine
This, yeah. Generally gonna need a link of some kind in that section to justify stat changes in most cases (and better off safe than sorry, y'know?)
 
A couple things I like about what Sonic and the Secret Rings does for Sonic's character is after the Alf Layla Wa Layla fight
1: It supports what the Werehog represents. Sonic took the World Rings of sadness, rage, and hatred, yet he didn't lose himself in the process, he only directed all those negative emotions towards a positive goal. He even casually let it go after Erazor was taken down. Sucks when ppl try to point towards Darkspine Sonic as Sonic "losing himself" when it's anything but

2: Sonic, despite disliking tears, recognizes they are a natural part of life and the healing process. While it could be due to Sonic knowing that Shahra only grants simple wishes, the fact he didn't even think about asking Shahra if she could just make herself happy again and forget Erazor is very telling.
Dislikes: Tears
 
Those edits were preformed with the intent of updating to the currently accepted stats from the scaling blog on the verse page. It seems the link to said blog was mistakenly not put in the edit summary
Are you willing to handle it instead? The scaling seemed to be inconsistent, and I did not know which of the pages that were outdated. 🙏
 
Do we consider Mecha Sonic Mk. II's crouch skating technique a subset of the Spin Dash? It makes the same noise and (forcefully) statues Knuckles in the transition to the Super Mecha Sonic phase.
 
06 isn't THAT bad.
06 is like. I don't think it's good and I don't really like it, but I also don't have vitriolic hatred towards it. It's such a strange game for those reasons. It's atmospheric and uncanny simultaneously in a way that's strangely compelling to a point there's lots to like, but also so much objectively wrong that I can't call it good in good faith. But I can't say I think it's absolute dogshit since there's enough of a unique vision I think could've been good that was left with poor execution.

It's an experience I can say is worth trying at least once though.
 
Tbh I think it already was, but yeah Speed Sim confirms that when left to its own devices that it wants to erase everything.
great, this means that he could be Pure Evil...the only problem is:
-he needs more characterization (being just a evil entity is not enough, he needs to have more personality, not even dialogues are necessary)
-...could the game even be considered Canon?
 
great, this means that he could be Pure Evil...the only problem is:
-he needs more characterization (being just a evil entity is not enough, he needs to have more personality, not even dialogues are necessary)
-...could the game even be considered Canon?
Nibroc and co have to have all Speed Sim content looked over by Sega to fit canon. It’s why there’s no playable dead characters even though the team really wants them to be playable. Gamma’s event got scrapped due to this rule too and Sega even denied Super Neo Metal Sonic to be playable for some reason
 
Nibroc and co have to have all Speed Sim content looked over by Sega to fit canon. It’s why there’s no playable dead characters even though the team really wants them to be playable. Gamma’s event got scrapped due to this rule too and Sega even denied Super Neo Metal Sonic to be playable for some reason
Oh so he could be Pure Evil (or Inconsistently Heinous since...well, he has no characterization)
 
great, this means that he could be Pure Evil...the only problem is:
-he needs more characterization (being just a evil entity is not enough, he needs to have more personality, not even dialogues are necessary)
-...could the game even be considered Canon?
Not really, tbh. Not every villain needs to be a deep or interesting character that has character or personality. Some characters benefit from just being a monster or a force of nature without having too much depth. Not having depth isn't always a bad thing and often enhances the overall narrative without padding out runtime or meandering too long on the antag character. The Time Eater works as an antagonist. If you want depth, you'd basically have to look towards or make a completely different character.
 
Time Eater is a creature whose baseline instinct is to cause death and destruction. It already WANTS that without a personality, that is it's very nature. That's what it inherently desires.

You mean to tell me that isn't pure evil? What, did it have a tea party with Cream and Cheese before it erased them or something?
 
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