This is any Emanator
They aren't the only emanators who have done this either.
Yeah any Emanator can do it. The Emanators are also comparable to each other theres like 10+ statements of this.
Yet the Worm is unable to do anything, which only solidifies the fact that it relies on the users who can actually utilize power to such a degree or not
While in general, all emanators have a baseline scaling, which would be unknown now because we can't scale it to the entire path anymore.
What about Diamond and Ten Stonehearts being capable of summong and controlling Qlipoth's hammer, which can strike down and damage Ena and False God Sunday, the latter who incarnated Ena themself at the time? Mainly about the Ten Stonehearts who are far inferior to the Emanators
Honkai: Out of context Rail
This is a unique scenario with many other things involved (just like the Irontomb case)
Because it’s a worm lol.
so the scalings being like every other emanator and the ones beyond mere emanator level being the 3 exceptions. Why would it not scale to the path?
Incomplete Irontomb is stated as a mere emanator/lord ravaged level. Destroying half the cosmos is upscaling from the Emperor’s thoughts that can nuke half of it, which is still a mere emanator level.
Ok but when did I ever make this argument? Am I actively advocating for them to have that?
Yeah Incomplete Irontomb is pretty much just Lord Ravager/Emanator level. There’s really no reason to put the incomplete version far beyond emanators.
Probably Sunday, almost-Aeon
Sunday already scales full Aeon level strength in his False God key anyways.
No, he can return because his fall is not rooted in causality; it is not a hax, simply a hole in the causal chain of the verse, hence the actions of Cyrene in 3.7
He would have undergone an Ascension if Jade hadn't gathered the Order's power to transform into Preservation and used THEIR hammer to literally demote Sunday to the rank of Emanator, so I guess that's relevant.
Yeah but at the same time he's also stated to be as strong as an Aeon and that its nigh impossible to face him head on until they strip him divinity away. Sunday's true form as a false god is also as vast as an Aeon's true form.
If we have a profile for Pom Pom then so can the worm lol
I'm not saying otherwise; I suppose a False Aeon is fundamentally an Aeon whose status you can remove, otherwise it has the power of a real Aeon. Sunday only changed the direction of the Order, shifting from pure Control to Domination/Conquest; it doesn't really affect its level, just its actions.
Its hilarious how this crt went from Sunday will never ever become an Aeon to becoming an Aeon of 2 different paths
Havent been Aeon upgraded into Low 1A, how 1B can still exist, according to what?
The physical world is 1-B, so something like Zephyro and Welt’s clash, or affecting the branches
Elaborate please, what does physical world refers here? Imaginary Tree? Leaf worlds?
Real Space, so the totality of what’s outside Imaginary/Path Space, which is functionally the Space-Time dictated by branches and leaves
By this logic destroying a universe in this verse makes the character Hyperversal?
Depends on the “universe”. Ones like Amphoreus are only 4D, but if you can affect the totality of the Tree then you’d also be affecting the 11D Space-Times/Leaves, which brings you to 1-B.
on CN the text uses same word for Imaginary Tree which is “Galaxy” and we have it accepted as 1-B so thats no issue at all
You are confusing me more, firstly isnt amphoreus just a planet within an AI? Also 11D should be High Complex Multiversal, 1B begins with 12D.
When I say “universe”, I mean the leaves.
It’s a Space-Time Dimension constructed from the Scepter’s data (it’s size is a genuine nebula). And ye, it should be, but for some reason it’s rated 1-B. I think it has sum to do with Otto(?)
If leaves act like universes, wonder why narrative call imaginary tree as universe not multiverse
If I recall correctly 11D comes from Sea of Quanta, and Imaginary Tree transcending it something like that? If not you should fix 1B into High 1C. Also I would like suggest to give better clarification for speed rating of characters instead of chainscaling loop, like what is reason of immeasurable speed.
IX description calls it a multiverse. But the leaves are also called universes sometimes iirc, its just that they aren’t that size most of the time (Amphoreus is a nebula for example)
I’m planning on downgrading most of Immeasurable Speed
There’s like 2 immeasurable speed chain scaling from HI3 coming from Welt and someone else. There’s another immeasurable speed chain scaling coming from Lygus. There’s another immeasurable speed chain scaling coming from Evernight. There’s another immeasurable speed but comes from Post Fuli Gaze Cyrene.
Any realm with independent space time should be treated as universe. Heck even our universe isnt infinite in size despite being space time continuum.
@Voidnether talked about Phainon and Flame reaver having a immeasurable speed feat but I honestly forgot what it was
Damn, this chainscaling thingy should be more strict. But really is there any stamement of demonstration of these guys breaking linear time or speed formula, with their speed?
Chainscaling happens in any verse. Hell, I legit blocked an attempt from someone trying to scale Jarilo IV to cornerstone level
Read their speed justifications on their profiles. I wasn’t the one that proposed it or wrote it to explain it.
I’ve checked all of those reasons and none of them qualify for Immeasurable to begin with lol.
Imaginary Tree should be High 1-B+ yeah
They're unbound by the linear flow of time to be precise
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