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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

******* what? I am saying its skill that he could do those WITHOUT using his bs ability.
The same BS ability he needed in combination with an overconfidence bonk to land a single proper hit on Fraudastor?
Broken staff Al?? LOL??? WHAT???? WHAT?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
That doesn't like... drop his skill? It just means he's in pain from his wound still. Also rewatch the finale of Season 2, Vox is actively landing hits on Al.
 
The same BS ability he needed in combination with an overconfidence bonk to land a single proper hit on Fraudastor?
It would have hit Alastor even if he wasn't confident, it was a wide spread attack.
That doesn't like... drop his skill? It just means he's in pain from his wound still. Also rewatch the finale of Season 2, Vox is actively landing hits on Al.
It also stops him from using his full extent of powers??
They will duck it up.
They will never fill their cup,
Their wanking desires are broken from the start,
No degree of high tier will ever be enough.
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Orange acting like he isn't drooling for 4-A Al
 
It would have hit Alastor even if he wasn't confident, it was a wide spread attack.
You know the guy can teleport right?
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Orange acting like he isn't drooling for 4-A Al
I know where to stop wanking lol. I love him but there is a line.

Also in all this conversation, isn’t it funny how the lieutenant is unironically way more skilled than the general in exorcists army.
 
It would have hit Alastor even if he wasn't confident, it was a wide spread attack.
Ever hear of ducking? Or jumping?
It also stops him from using his full extent of powers??
He can still summon hentai, Shadow, and spawn shit in to help him. He's not exactly running on half mast. And he never fails a cast in the finale fight.
 
You know the guy can teleport right?
Not fast enough
Also in all this conversation, isn’t it funny how the lieutenant is unironically way more skilled than the general in exorcists army.
I was always excepting that since Episode 1, she is far more serious and dedicated.
Ever hear of ducking? Or jumping?
It was too fast to do either, its also a really large slash of shockwave that gets bigger as it goes on. Adam did it so Al would get hit by it %100
He can still summon hentai, Shadow, and spawn shit in to help him. He's not exactly running on half mast. And he never fails a cast in the finale fight.
Well its clearly not on the same level since we saw how hard Adam had affected him in Episode 4
 
He can what?
Tentacles are popular.
Not fast enough

I was always excepting that since Episode 1, she is far more serious and dedicated.

It was too fast to do either, its also a really large slash of shockwave that gets bigger as it goes on. Adam did it so Al would get hit by it %100
Al has better arguments for being faster than Adam than vice versa. Also if it was so big, why did the cane stop it?
Well its clearly not on the same level since we saw how hard Adam had affected him in Episode 4
Or third option; FD form gets rid of it.
 
Al has better arguments for being faster than Adam than vice versa. Also if it was so big, why did the cane stop it?
Actually, shouldn’t the beam have just broken through it rather than stop at the cane. Maybe that supports the idea of downscaling since the difference wasn’t that much to break through and slice Al in half anyways?
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"Alastor was faster than Adam", "Alastor could have dodged it if he wanted to"



Directly staring at Adam, his staff is cut SO fast that Alastor fails to understand what even happened till he sees his staff then he SEES Adam coming and fails to dodge again

Now that I rewatch it... I am so confused what are those two slices near Al supposed to be??
Actually, shouldn’t the beam
It was a shockwave, it was meant to cut off his staff and it did
 
"Alastor was faster than Adam", "Alastor could have dodged it if he wanted to"



Directly staring at Adam, his staff is cut SO fast that Alastor fails to understand what even happened till he sees his staff then he SEES Adam coming and fails to dodge again

He was blindsided though, you can see it by his eyes closed in the next frame.
It was a shockwave, it was meant to cut off his staff and it did
Shion, you ain’t convincing me that he was so smart that he figured that staff is making him far stronger. He was clearly aiming at Alastor and the latter blocked the attack.
 
He was blindsided though, you can see it by his eyes closed in the next frame.
He still had lotta time to react to Adam's attack, it would only blind him when it hit which is when he should have "dodged" or "teleported" by the logic yall are trying to push, he is NOT faster than holy light.

It also could be him bracing for impact since he couldnt avoid it.
Shion, you ain’t convincing me that he was so smart that he figured that staff is making him far stronger.
He INSTANTLY knew who built the forcefield just by peeping the Hotel once, I don't see how the main power tool someone is using might be a source of their powers is such a hard idea to think of
He was clearly aiming at Alastor and the latter blocked the attack.
If he was aiming to just kill Al he would have blasted him with an actual beam.
 
I desire to add fuel to the fire due to animation details.

If you look at the ground, there are clear marks around Alastor after Adam launched his attack. This can indicate that something stopped his attack in the middle/redirected it by blocking it.
 
This is the equivalent of people arguing who's top 1 in JJK, Gojo or Sukuna, but instead of arguing who's top 1 it's arguing who jobbed harder between Adam and Alastor
We don't argue who's the strongest for this verse, the show makes it clear as day already. Instead we argue who is just the worst overall despite their power, for THAT has true competition
 
If you look at the ground, there are clear marks around Alastor after Adam launched his attack. This can indicate that something stopped his attack in the middle/redirected it by blocking it.
those marks are from his axe, you can see the SAME ones where Al falls
 
He still had lotta time to react to Adam's attack, it would only blind him when it hit which is when he should have "dodged" or "teleported" by the logic yall are trying to push
It’s light. Try to not be blinded by a flashlight.
he is NOT faster than holy light.
If unserious Lucifer can dodge the light and General of Exorcists can keep up with him while Al can keep up with latter…
He INSTANTLY knew who built the forcefield just by peeping the Hotel once, I don't see how the main power tool someone is using might be a source of their powers is such a hard idea to think of
Now that’s headcanon lol.
If he was aiming to just kill Al he would have blasted him with an actual beam.
He saw Alastor dodging everything he does. Using a wide shockwave is actually a good idea, since linear beam is more easy to dodge.
 
those marks are from his axe, you can see the SAME ones where Al falls
Yes..... the axe he used to cut Alastor's staff. Adam only hits the ground twice and the one we see when Al falls is from the first one he landed, the other two only occurred when his staff was broken not before
 
It’s light. Try to not be blinded by a flashlight.
He saw it coming, if he is faster why wouldn't he dodge it? Al is overconfident sure but he isn't a dumbass, he knows Adam is stronger since he dodges everything and he KNOWS his staff is especially important.
If unserious Lucifer can dodge the light and General of Exorcists can keep up with him while Al can keep up with latter…
He can't keep up with Adam, thats why he lost quickly
Now that’s headcanon lol.
Not really, he broke the shield and instantly targeted Al. You think it was coincidence he took out the MAIN threat?
He saw Alastor dodging everything he does. Using a wide shockwave is actually a good idea, since linear beam is more easy to dodge.
He can make his linear beam much larger and move it around...
Yes..... the axe he used to cut Alastor's staff. Adam only hits the ground twice and the one we see when Al falls is from the first one he landed, the other two only occurred when his staff was broken not before


I don't see the 3 dimensionality of the building so I am confused but this strike was the one that left one of those slices, all we see is the axe doing that

I genuinly hate the way you guys scale sometimes.
 
We don't argue who's the strongest for this verse, the show makes it clear as day already. Instead we argue who is just the worst overall despite their power, for THAT has true competition
Arguing who's IQ is lower. Just make up and say both are overconfident dumbasses for different reasons

Could Abel (Adam amped) beat Naoya in a misogyny competition
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Naoya said that women who can't stay 3 steps behind a man are worthless and should die. Man obliterates Adam and Abel
 
He saw it coming, if he is faster why wouldn't he dodge it? Al is overconfident sure but he isn't a dumbass, he knows Adam is stronger since he dodges everything and he KNOWS his staff is especially important.
Why did you just ignore the arg.
He can't keep up with Adam, thats why he lost quickly
I suppose that’s how he dodged every single attack from frustrated one.
Not really, he broke the shield and instantly targeted Al. You think it was coincidence he took out the MAIN threat?
It doesn’t prove he knew a thing about staff. Even Vox or Husk didn’t figure it out despite knowing him for so long.
Also I don’t think he even saw Al create it.
He can make his linear beam much larger and move it around...
Still less of a shot than wide attack lol.
 
Why did you just ignore the arg.
Its easier for me
I suppose that’s how he dodged every single attack from frustrated one.
Adam wasn't going all out, he wants entertainment
Also I don’t think he even saw Al create it.
Exactly, he came to that conclusion. He is smart when he wants to be.
Still less of a shot than wide attack lol.
Yeah
 
I don't see the 3 dimensionality of the building so I am confused but this strike was the one that left one of those slices, all we see is the axe doing that
Ok, so at 0:32 Adam hits his first strike. Paying attention to the ground it shows a major slash in on the ground with a better angle appearing at 0:45

At 0:52 Adam lands his second strike, this time only leaving a rather small slash on the ground. We also get a wide-shot of the roof showing no major damage nearby where Alastor is retreating to

At 1:11 Adam lands the last strike to the building, a massive V shaped mark on the ground around Alastor. These marks do not appear before this moment nor does it make any sense in the choreography as all of Adam's previous strikes didn't interact with the building.
 
Naoya said that women who can't stay 3 steps behind a man are worthless and should die. Man obliterates Adam and Abel
Yeah, but Naoya uses japanese women dialect + his cursed form is a ***** + his domain hand sign is a symbol to protect women + his domain have the form of a uterus

Adam can use it for his advantage
 
At 1:11 Adam lands the last strike to the building, a massive V shaped mark on the ground around Alastor. These marks do not appear before this moment nor does it make any sense in the choreography as all of Adam's previous strikes didn't interact with the building.
Huh? Shockwaves aren't stuff that can physically just "bounce" off like that especially not into two sides and especially not when they went clean through the obstacle
Velvette isn't even in the running for worst IQ.
Yeah because all Velvette can do is get low diffed by weakened holding back Alastor. Weakest Vee
 
Yeah, but Naoya uses japanese female dialect + his cursed form is a ***** + his domain hand sign is a symbol to protect women + his domain have the form of a uterus

Adam can use it for his advantage
Adam wouldn't be smart enough to recognize half of that.

They'd honestly just rage bait each other since neither can kill the other so they just keep arguing until they come together as brothers held together by their misogyny.
 
Huh? Shockwaves aren't stuff that can physically just "bounce" off like that especially not into two sides and especially not when they went clean through the obstacle
I ain't arguing physics mate, that type of logic is beyond me and goofy aah fiction. I'm just saying what the show is showing, the V mark couldn't have appeared anywhere else in the fight
 
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