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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

Who are the "average" Overlords in this context?
For now, probably pretty much everyone other than Rosie-Alastor. Although I can see the argument for Vs and Niffty-Husk being above them.
Heck idk if we should really consider Mr. "I literally just have aura farming over people we only learned are Overlords this season" as his feats as that much stronger than say Carmilla.
Idk, Carmilla is kinda featless and Zestial making another Overlord afraid as heck from him, as well as having respect from Alastor, definitely implies he is not average Overlord
 
minor overlords would scale to different feats
Oh right, lemme check their feats-
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(Ik you probably meant from Sinners but still funny smh)
 
For now, probably pretty much everyone other than Rosie-Alastor. Although I can see the argument for Vs and Niffty-Husk being above them.
Didn't both Nifty and Husk need assistance to beat Velvette and Valentino respectively? How would they of all people be above average?
 
Niffty never used her overlord powers and only needed an assist at the very end of a fight she mostly had the upper hand in.
Why do we assume she has any special powers?
I feel like since we've seen her in two serious fights already it's pretty self-evident that her powers are "Them hands" much in the same fashion as Carmilla.
 
As I said, Heaven and Hell are not planets, they are structures the size of a Multi-Solar System. This makes the calculation incorrect. Therefore, it needs to be recalculated.
 
Why do we assume she has any special powers?
I feel like since we've seen her in two serious fights already it's pretty self-evident that her powers are "Them hands" much in the same fashion as Carmilla.
I'm just extrapolating from the beams every overlord used to make the bubble.
 
Yeah, Niffty doesn’t really user her magic like some of the other overlords. Also wouldn't say she really had any upper hand on the fight when Velvette was out of her element and was still mostly even/had an advantage for the fight (Most of Vel's moveset is projectile based and was still going blow for blow with Nif, the only time she had a chance to projectile spam and get an advantage she was shut down)
 
She did have the upperhand against Vaggie, who was part of the totally invincible, indestructible Exorcist army.
Lute is former Exorcist, not current, so pretty sure her powers went away after she "fell". Otherwise it makes no sense for Overlords even being scared of Exorcists at all.
 
Yeah, Niffty doesn’t really user her magic like some of the other overlords. Also wouldn't say she really had any upper hand on the fight when Velvette was out of her element and was still mostly even/had an advantage for the fight (Most of Vel's moveset is projectile based and was still going blow for blow with Nif, the only time she had a chance to projectile spam and get an advantage she was shut down)
We both know you just want to defend your goat and deep down you know Niffty neggs
 
Vaggie is former Exorcist, not current, so pretty sure her powers went away after she "fell". Otherwise it makes no sense for Overlords even being scared of Exorcists at all.
She still didn't get one shot by Lute. Also no exorcists have shown any special powers, it's just their numbers and angelic steel.
 
Btw I just want to put it out that we know from season one that Alastor owns Husk's soul in exchange for maintaining their power.
So if one really wanted to, they can argue that Husk's portion actually counts as part of Alastor and thus giving him an even BIGGER share.
 
Btw I just want to put it out that we know from season one that Alastor owns Husk's soul in exchange for maintaining their power.
So if one really wanted to, they can argue that Husk's portion actually counts as part of Alastor and thus giving him an even BIGGER share.
wouldnt change the numbers though since Alastor doesn't have that power in him at the moment. If Husk ever losses it however then it'd be fair grounds for a buff
 
wouldnt change the numbers though since Alastor doesn't have that power in him at the moment. If Husk ever losses it however then it'd be fair grounds for a buff
I mean, he also threatened to rip Husk's soul to shreds in season 1. You figure if he went through with it then the power that was invested in would go back to him.
So a hypothetical thing in his key/page can work.
 
I mean, he also threatened to rip Husk's soul to shreds in season 1. You figure if he went through with it then the power that was invested in would go back to him.
So a hypothetical thing in his key/page can work.
(Tbf, FP Alastor stomps Husker so don't think i'd be that much of a buff)
 
She was though. Lute stomped her ahh and one-shotted when she actually landed a hit.
Lute definitely was stronger but she didn't one shot. She landed several hits, plus there's a portion of the fight that happens off screen (there's a cut around 0:18).
 
I mean, he also threatened to rip Husk's soul to shreds in season 1. You figure if he went through with it then the power that was invested in would go back to him.
So a hypothetical thing in his key/page can work.
Yeah didn't deny it's possible, just saying it's not something relevant to the current stat discussions since we have to figure out what that portion is first
 
Lute definitely was stronger but she didn't one shot. She landed several hits, plus there's a portion of the fight that happens off screen (there's a cut around 0:18).

She never actually lands a proper hit until 0:17, Vaggie mostly either ducks her attacks or blocks them by restraining her hand from killing her with the knife.
 
To kill, not to defeat, I'd say she can logically beat any exorcist without Angelic weapons, as someone like Vaggie did that in the last extermination
Why the heck even need AWs then. If Carmilla > Vaggie who was the best girl after Lute, and she was low diffing Vaggie via skill (while not going all out btw), why didn't she just beat them.

Come on.
 
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