Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Makes sense, tho “my dad considers me a failure” is indeed retconned methinks

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Makes sense, tho “my dad considers me a failure” is indeed retconned methinks

I'm sure she'll just say Charlie misinterpreted something her dad about her, which, i guess, makes sense since Lucifer certainly has...a way with words

 

[ByArrow]

Can't we calculate the expansion of the universe by the Angels by dividing the energy required to create the universe by the age of the universe?

Age of the Universe is 13.79 billion years

13.79 bilion years = 4.35e+17

Required energy is at least 2.825e+92 Jouls (From here)

2.825e+92/4.35e+17 = 6.4942529e+74 Joules per second

Number of Angel that did this = 6

6.4942529e+74 / 6 = 1.0823755e+74 Joules, or 1.082 million YottaFoe (3-B, Multi-Galaxy Level)

 

[Mythic381]

Makes sense, tho “my dad considers me a failure” is indeed retconned methinks

Not really

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I'm sure she'll just say Charlie misinterpreted something her dad about her, which, i guess, makes sense since Lucifer certainly has...a way with words

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Iirc the angels are stated to expand the universe, not create it

 

[Mythic381]

I'm sure she'll just say Charlie misinterpreted something her dad about her, which, i guess, makes sense since Lucifer certainly has...a way with words

I do feel he was intended to be more of goofy in Alastor's manner rather than how he is portrayed in the show.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Not really

Brotha, I watched the Pilot day one and everyday there's new stuff

Wtf are these episode synopsis

 

[Mythic381]

Wtf are these episode synopsis

This was the original pitch bible for Hazbin Hotel before it got picked up by A24, there's even leaked comics, you can find it all here.

 

[DarkLock92]

Can't we calculate the expansion of the universe by the Angels by dividing the energy required to create the universe by the age of the universe?

Age of the Universe is 13.79 billion years

13.79 bilion years = 4.35e+17

Required energy is at least 2.825e+92 Jouls (From here)

2.825e+92/4.35e+17 = 6.4942529e+74 Joules per second

Number of Angel that did this = 6

6.4942529e+74 / 6 = 1.0823755e+74 Joules, or 1.082 million YottaFoe (3-B, Multi-Galaxy Level)

We got a whiff of tier 5 and now we're talking about Galaxy Level, like chill.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

 

[Mythic381]

We got a whiff of tier 5 and now we're talking about Galaxy Level, like chill.

Man, if only people knew of Star level Hellaverse...

 

[Mythic381]

Brotha, I watched the Pilot day one and everyday there's new stuff

Don't tell bro Alastor was originally supposed to be hit by the door in the pilot and not Niffty.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Not really

Ohhhh well that makes sense now. Thx

Also where’d you get that

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Not really

Episode 9… man Hazbin would’ve been so much better with more episodes, something akin to Gravity Falls. This series DESPERATELY needs it. Too bad we can’t get that thanks to Amazon
At least we’ve got peak animation in S2

 

[ByArrow]

Iirc the angels are stated to expand the universe, not create it

It basically means the same thing.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Can't we calculate the expansion of the universe by the Angels by dividing the energy required to create the universe by the age of the universe?

Age of the Universe is 13.79 billion years

13.79 bilion years = 4.35e+17

Required energy is at least 2.825e+92 Jouls (From here)

2.825e+92/4.35e+17 = 6.4942529e+74 Joules per second

Number of Angel that did this = 6

6.4942529e+74 / 6 = 1.0823755e+74 Joules, or 1.082 million YottaFoe (3-B, Multi-Galaxy Level)

We're not bring back the cosmic feat Hellaverse discourse that appears every 6 months

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Don't tell bro Alastor was originally supposed to be hit by the door in the pilot and not Niffty.

Daria Cohen da goat man

 

[Mythic381]

Also where’d you get that

You can find both the original comics and episode ideas here.

For the episodes alone, here:

 

[Alexander]

Iirc the angels are stated to expand the universe, not create it

I mean they created earth has it was shown

 

[ByArrow]

If we are not to consider the angels' expansion of the universe as an act of creation, then it must be removed from Lucifer's profile.

 

[Mythic381]

If we are not to consider the angels' expansion of the universe as an act of creation, then it must be removed from Lucifer's profile.

Considering the fact it was added by Tugia, I would not be surprised if it wasn't actually accepted.

 

[DaReaperMan]

No new information on the feat means Bambu's solid rejection of it as a proper big boy feat stands.

Cope, seethe, and mald, Hellaverse isn't tier 5 yet.

 

[Agnaa]

He says that KE is better than the explosion formula (which I lowkey disagree since it's done inspace and it's more of a visual thing), which would give 5-B+ results

We see clouds surrounding the object; these are what presumably got parted. They exist in space because Heaven.

Yeah it's a visual thing, but it's what you were measuring for the "shockwave" anyway. KE of the stuff we see is a lot better than assuming it could demolish reinforced concrete buildings at the edge.

And if we do say that it's in the vacuum of space, that would make explosions invalid anyway apparently.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

So 5-B+ folks, which means 5-B overlords ig

 

[Mythic381]

So 5-B+ folks, which means 5-B overlords ig

I thought it was argued the explosion wouldn't be as strong as the blasts?

 

[DarkLock92]

I thought it was argued the explosion wouldn't be as strong as the blasts?

I think the logic was that since the weapon was overloading despite being able to handle the blasts, the explosion would be stronger. I might be misremembering though.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I think the logic was that since the weapon was overloading despite being able to handle the blasts, the explosion would be stronger. I might be misremembering though.

That + Lu being far more exhausted from it than regular blasts

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

So 5-B+ folks, which means 5-B overlords ig

This would also mean 5-A Niffty since she upscales

 

[Mythic381]

That + Lu being far more exhausted from it than regular blasts

I still see it as Lucifer being drained from all the blasts and was just like that before the explosion, but eh sure

 

[DarkLock92]

I guess it means Carmilla was just wrong lol.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

I'll double check later but when Luficer at somepoint outright says that he tingles he feel from the cannon got stronger. Dont know if its when Vox goes crazy or if its literally right before the explosion starts, but its good evidence for the weapon being capable of doing stronger attacks

 

[Tllmbrg]

So 5-B+ folks, which means 5-B overlords ig

Well depending on how we do the split + if we are gonna use Agnaa's blog that counts the seconds each person contributed

 

[DarkLock92]

Well depending on how we do the split + if we are gonna use Agnaa's blog that counts the seconds each person contributed

How exactly would that work? Especially since there's an implied skip where Alastor and Rosie make their new deal.

 

[Agnaa]

I'll double check later but when Luficer at somepoint outright says that he tingles he feel from the cannon got stronger. Dont know if its when Vox goes crazy or if its literally right before the explosion starts, but its good evidence for the weapon being capable of doing stronger attacks

He says something like that right at the first shot.

"Ooh that tickles. Oh, that's a bad tickle, BAD TICKLE!"

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

He says something like that right at the first shot.

"Ooh that tickles. Oh, that's a bad tickle, BAD TICKLE!"

No im recalling a later scene where says the tingels actually get worse. Went to check on YouTube and i misheard "back" for "bad"

Basically, I was wrong

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Well depending on how we do the split

I think maybe average Overlords will get at most, Alastor and above at least, and maybe Zestial will scale straight up to the value divided by 14?

if we are gonna use Agnaa's blog that counts the seconds each person contributed

No we abandoned that idea.

 

[Tllmbrg]

How exactly would that work? Especially since there's an implied skip where Alastor and Rosie make their new deal.

Well you are probably giving Alastor and Rosie a bigger share since the shield visibly grew a lot more when they joined (Personally I think since Rosie was asking him to help even before she fixed his staff, you can argue an even bigger share on his end)

 

[Tllmbrg]

I think maybe average Overlords will get at most, Alastor and above at least, and maybe Zestial will scale straight up to the value divided by 14?

Who are the "average" Overlords in this context?
Heck idk if we should really consider Mr. "I literally just have aura farming over people we only learned are Overlords this season" as his feats as that much stronger than say Carmilla.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I think we should only scale the average value for those who are significally powerful, like something as "At least X, likely far higher", while the minor overlords would scale to different feats