Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

[Anonymous_Learner]

Would the power null of angelic weapons do anything?

Eh. If it hit Gojo, sure, or Vox trapped him in the sphere like Lucifer (though Gojo isn't stupid enough to get trapped like that fraudulent king) but i'm gonna be honest and say i'm not sure if Adam's laser just gonna null infinity

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

I doubt the light stuff ever gonna be accepted besides physiology.

Never said it will, just said non-0 chance

Don't think I need to specify what type of intangibility I'm talking about for you to get it, we're talking about Vox, someone who uses electricity for basically everything

Pardon? My comment was literally explaining why Vox's doesn't work.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

I'm talking about them escaping from him.

Oh yeah, my goat can run from Gojo. Just Gojo could also just teleport right to him after

 

[DarkLock92]

Eh. If it hit Gojo, sure, or Vox trapped him in the sphere like Lucifer (though Gojo isn't stupid enough to get trapped like that fraudulent king) but i'm gonna be honest and say i'm not sure if Adam's laser just gonna null infinity

I mean it's very similar to Jacob's Ladder:

Power Nullification (Hana's Cursed Techinque can extinguish other Cursed Techinques which results in death. This nullification includes barriers and even Special Grade Cursed Objects like the Prison Realm)
Holy Manipulation, Purification (Type 2), Limited Existence Erasure, and Light Manipulation via Jacob's Ladder (Jacob's Ladder purifies evil spirits and erases them)

Holy Manipulation, Energy Projection, Magic and Heat Manipulation (Can conjure and utilize beams of Holy Light with either his Guitar-Axe or with his bare hands. Even a weaker attack from his Holy Light was able to completely vaporize Sir Pentious' Blimp)
Immortality (Types 1, 2, & 3), Regeneration (Low-High) Negation, Soul Erasure (Angels are able to permanently kill sinners. Angelic Weapons can also hurt Angels who cannot be hurt otherwise, able to kill Sinners and make their souls cease to exist)
Power Nullification (With the help of Angelic Weapons Striker nullified and disabled Stolas' magic, Adam erased all of Alastor's magic in one blow)
Purification and Morality Manipulation (Evil - Angelic Weapons are capable disrupting and releasing the evilness of souls)

 

[Mythic381]

Pardon? My comment was literally explaining why Vox's doesn't work.

And intangible is a very generous term

(how bro felt after saying "pardon")

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

(how bro felt after saying "pardon")

Vox's intangibility derives from being an element, so the question is simply if a bolt of electricity can bypass Infinity with the answer being no.

Excuse me for being confused by you complaining about needing to specify Vox's type of intangibility, when I outright addressed his type. YOU asked

I mean like before he uses infinity, also does it really work on intangible stuff?

Which I answered, you yourself admitted that we are referring to Vox's intangibility so what in the world is the complaint?

 

[ShionAH]

I was listening to the songs again, Hear My Hope confirms Pentagram’s (half of it if you wanna be generous) population is a Billion.

 

[Alexander]

I was listening to the songs again, Hear My Hope confirms Pentagram’s (half of it if you wanna be generous) population is a Billion.

i think that was obvious since the other song Charlie sang

 

[ShionAH]

i think that was obvious since the other song Charlie sang

Its a really good support since this one is CLEARLY talking to the City

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I was listening to the songs again, Hear My Hope confirms Pentagram’s (half of it if you wanna be generous) population is a Billion.

I always knew, but the problem is that it just says that song reaches 1B ears which does not really cap the population.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

To add more confusion on that line, when they say 'reaches a billion ears' they straight up have the camera looking at Heaven itself

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

To add more confusion on that line, when they say 'reaches a billion ears' they straight up have the camera looking at Heaven itself

Should’ve said “and here’s the sugar on the cream” smh…

 

[DarkLock92]

I dunno how I feel about treating it as an exact number. Seems to me more like a way to say "a lot of people" that works lyrically.

 

[ShionAH]

Song reaches a billion ears, only people who are in danger from this situation is half of the Pentagram City

So 2 billion population Noticing

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

So we have 4 interpretations

1. Refers to entire Pentagram because its meant to unite them
2. Refers to Heaven because the camera is literally looking right at it for the line
3. Refers to half of Pentagram because it only blows up half
4. Vivzie really needs to learn how to count and stop saying random numbers hoping it adds up

 

[ShionAH]

So we have 4 interpretations

1. Refers to entire Pentagram because its meant to unite them

Possible

1. Refers to Heaven because the camera is literally looking right at it for the line

Thats just a really stupid interpretation ngl Only two characters from Heaven actually reached out to the plan

1. Refers to half of Pentagram because it only blows up half

Possible

1. Vivzie really needs to learn how to count and stop saying random numbers hoping it adds up

Definitely

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Thats just a really stupid interpretation ngl Only two characters from Heaven actually reached out to the plan

Don't blame me, I ain't the camera guy pointing at the sky when people are singing out having their voices reach out

 

[ShionAH]

Don't blame me, I ain't the camera guy pointing at the sky when people are singing out having their voices reach out

Don’t blame me, I am trying to make sense out of the information we got.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I dunno how I feel about treating it as an exact number. Seems to me more like a way to say "a lot of people" that works lyrically.

I lean towards this.

Realistically, Vox’s 100B is likely the truth because it reconciles with humanity having a total of >100B people.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Want to comment on this because I nearly made an accidental mistake. I almost actually gave Val credit for something. During the Husk fight they frame the scene so it looks like Val shot Husk's cards while they were in mid-air. HOWEVER, looking at the scenes before, Val actually shot 4 shots before Husk threw his cards (none of them reached him yet), Husk threw 5 cards, Val shot 1 more, and THEN Husk's cards got him.

Val has a 6 shot revolver, so what I'm saying is that he couldn't have shot 5 additional bullets to get rid of Husk's cards.

THIS IS JUST HOW BAD HIS ACCURACY IS! BRO IS HITTING EVERYTHING BUT HIS TARGETS!

And btw, since he shot ONE bullet after Husk threw his cards you can argue that one of them was intended to be on the incoming card. PROBLEM IS THAT'D BE THE CARD HE BARLEY HIT AND ENDED UP REMOVING HIS GUN. WHY DOES VAL USE GUNS WHEN HE BLOODY SUCKS AT IT!

 

[ShionAH]

I lean towards this.

Realistically, Vox’s 100B is likely the truth because it reconciles with humanity having a total of >100B people.

What does this have to do with my point??

I am saying Heaven has 100 Billion, Hell has way more than 100 Billion and Pentagram City has more than 1 Billion.

Is there anything wrong or anyone disagreeing with these numbers?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

What does this have to do with my point??

I am saying Heaven has 100 Billion, Hell has way more than 100 Billion and Pentagram City has more than 1 Billion.

Pentagram City is the largest city for Sinners specifically, the only other we saw them was IMP City. Would be weird if Pentagram had only 2% of Sinners yk...

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

What does this have to do with my point??

I am saying Heaven has 100 Billion, Hell has way more than 100 Billion and Pentagram City has more than 1 Billion.

Is there anything wrong or anyone disagreeing with these numbers?

in the might of Lilith calc thread, there are some people diagreeing with 100b

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Pentagram City is the largest city for Sinners specifically, the only other we saw them was IMP City. Would be weird if Pentagram had only 2% of Sinners yk...

Theres the one city where specifically Canadian sinners go called Heck

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I wonder if we can scale most of the Hellaverse humans to 9-C/9-B based on the fact that a random teacher could break the roof of a school by throwing a kid (which also survived)

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

I wonder if we can scale most of the Hellaverse humans to 9-C/9-B based on the fact that a random teacher could break the roof of a school by throwing a kid (which also survived)

I mean we also have 9-B Martha and Vincent is at least 9-C, so this isn't exactly inconsistent

 

[Agnaa]

The blast didn't hit the gate

???

 

[MrTayman616]

???

Would it be called "hit" here when it actually enters the heaven from that side? (I suck at explaining, sry :d)

 

[Agnaa]

Yeah I don't really get the point you're making.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

???

No idea what the argument is but yeah, Vox 100% hit the gate of heaven dead on. The angle where Vox shot it literally doesn't matter since the gate can be placed literally anywhere on the Heaven Sphere with what we know of the cosmology.

We additionally see part of the gate crash into Hell as a result of it being destroyed

 

[Agnaa]

No idea what the argument is

Talk about the Might of Lilith overloading derailed into talk about the time it shot heaven; relevant discussion started here.

 

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

What does this have to do with my point??

I am saying Heaven has 100 Billion, Hell has way more than 100 Billion and Pentagram City has more than 1 Billion.

Is there anything wrong or anyone disagreeing with these numbers?

i mean, there should be at least more people in hell/heaven then earth by the minimum

 

[Mythic381]

Theres the one city where specifically Canadian sinners go called Heck

Wasn't that more of a joke?

 

[Mythic381]

Would it be called "hit" here when it actually enters the heaven from that side? (I suck at explaining, sry :d)

Yo buddy, you do know that the thing that fell to Hell was Heaven's gate, right?

 

[Alexander]

Do you think a interdimensional enslavery who conquered thousands of dimensions for 10000 years...is capable of redemption?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Thinking about Demon Form, I think I have a theory. Basically, the stronger and more emotional you are, the more access & control you have to & over it. That’s why weak Sinners never show it, even Overlords we see on screen don’t. Vox, however, was able to slightly go into his partial form when really excited during Don’t You Forget reprise. Weakened Alastor (strongest Sinner, a lot stronger than Overlords) can tap into his Partial Demon Form fairly easily (though he was a bit excited to finally put Vox into his place), and 100% Vox (even stronger) went into his Full Demon Form in fierce of range, and can be in his Partial Demon Form more easier. He lost his Demon Form after his popularity dropped too, by the way. When he was at lowest popularity, he wasn’t able to go into Demon Form despite having the most emotional breakdown he could. Charlie can go into her Partial Demon Form at will and was shown to transform fully when enraged (although she is only half a Sinner and a bit of demon, but still has some Аngel part to her). Full Power Alastor can go into his both Partial and Full Demon Forms at will. Lucifer can casually tap into his Demon Form at will whenever (although he isn’t fully a demon).

Whaddya all think?

 

[ShionAH]

Can someone calculate Might of Lilith with Heaven being a universe?

 

[DarkLock92]

Thinking about Demon Form, I think I have a theory. Basically, the stronger and more emotional you are, the more access & control you have to & over it. That’s why weak Sinners never show it, even Overlords we see on screen don’t. Vox, however, was able to slightly go into his partial form when really excited during Don’t You Forget reprise. Weakened Alastor (strongest Sinner, a lot stronger than Overlords) can tap into his Partial Demon Form fairly easily (though he was a bit excited to finally put Vox into his place), and 100% Vox (even stronger) went into his Full Demon Form in fierce of range, and can be in his Partial Demon Form more easier. He lost his Demon Form after his popularity dropped too, by the way. When he was at lowest popularity, he wasn’t able to go into Demon Form despite having the most emotional breakdown he could. Charlie can go into her Partial Demon Form at will and was shown to transform fully when enraged (although she is only half a Sinner and a bit of demon, but still has some Аngel part to her). Full Power Alastor can go into his both Partial and Full Demon Forms at will. Lucifer can casually tap into his Demon Form at will whenever (although he isn’t fully a demon).

Whaddya all think?

Katie Killjoy has a Full Demon Form.

 

[Alexander]

Can someone calculate Might of Lilith with Heaven being a universe?

Universal

 

[ByArrow]

Universal

No