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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Also, the DBE Oozaru has Analytical Prediction (which Fully Synced Goku would end up getting too)

Insane
 
超神水の試練でも垣間見えた、悟空に宿る大猿の力。その力がもたらす一撃はピッコロ大魔王の身体を貫き、世の中に平和を取り戻したのでした。ですがピッコロ大魔王が死の間際に分身を産み残していたことを知り、悟空は来るべき日に備え神様の元で修業の日々を送ります。
"During the trials on the path to the Super Water of the Gods, readers had a glimpse of the power of the Great Ape hiding within Goku. Summoning this strength, Goku's strike pierces right through the Demon King Piccolo, returning peace to the land. However, Goku learns that on the brink of death, the demon king left behind a double of himself. To deal with the future appearance of this threat, he undergoes further training with Kami as his mentor."
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The Official Site doubly officially confirms that the Ultra Divine Water awakened Goku's Great Ape power in his normal form, yay.
 
Doesn't the devil already have no existence and fundamental aspects? If so, why does the devil's physiology page only mention resistance? Shouldn't it be immunity? The devil already qualifies for immunity.
Demons should have immunity to causality, fate, law, and so on.
 
Since the GT vs Ani-Super is lacking only 2 votes, lemme do a similar thing here just because i want so bad to get to the Manga canon that i'm thinking about doing 2 matches on this line

Post research: If we want them to be in the same realm, Toei would be represented by 3rd form Freeza (Frieza - Garlic Jr. Saga)
and Manga would be represented by either Perfect Cell Saga Base Gohan or 50% of SSJ1 Goku

Why those specifically? Simple.
According to this 23900 Quettatons = 1 Foe, and 1 KiloQuettaton = 1000 Quettatons, of course
So when 25.29 KiloQuettatons (1,06 Foe) is the last thing before the Toei chain starts talking about Exafoes and the last time things are around 1 Foe at the manga chain is 1.31625 before they get to too many Foe...yeah, that's where they match

alternatively

Things start to become 2-C in Toei and Manga after Imperfect Cell and During Future Trunks' Sagas, respectivelly
So we could apparently match Perfect Cell and Goku Black SSJR or their corresponding Sagas heroes...?
 
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Dragon Ball's paraconsistent/nonduality removal

Here it's mentioned that Time Power is a nonduality because it contains history and nonexistent history but as some users have pointed out recently that it wouldn't qualify as you would need to prove nonexistent history serves as a direct negation to history (for example it needs to be like...
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I wonder if it'd be possible to argue for Vegeta being >10x as powerful as before after his 300G training by upscaling from Goku's 100G training boost.

Actually, in hindsight, it'd really only matter if: (1) I can't get teen Future Trunks to scale to Pre-Zenkai Frieza Saga Gohan, and (2) I can't get Android Saga Gohan and Piccolo to scale above Final Form Frieza.
 
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noninho said:
Since the GT vs Ani-Super is lacking only 2 votes, lemme do a similar thing here just because i want so bad to get to the Manga canon that i'm thinking about doing 2 matches on this line

Post research: If we want them to be in the same realm, Toei would be represented by 3rd form Freeza (Frieza - Garlic Jr. Saga)
and Manga would be represented by either Perfect Cell Saga Base Gohan or 50% of SSJ1 Goku

Why those specifically? Simple.
According to this 23900 Quettatons = 1 Foe, and 1 KiloQuettaton = 1000 Quettatons, of course
So when 25.29 KiloQuettatons (1,06 Foe) is the last thing before the Toei chain starts talking about Exafoes and the last time things are around 1 Foe at the manga chain is 1.31625 before they get to too many Foe...yeah, that's where they match

alternatively

Things start to become 2-C in Toei and Manga after Imperfect Cell and During Future Trunks' Sagas, respectivelly
So we could apparently match Perfect Cell and Goku Black SSJR or their corresponding Sagas heroes...?
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bumping this once
 
DemarSL said:
If a character can like physical move infinite speed shouldn't you be like bare minimum multi galaxy level?
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Nah we don’t use KE of shit once it goes beyond lightspeed, since it would then become infinite energy wise, which often doesn’t match up with series portrayal.

Unless you mean just logically, in which case we don’t correlate speed to AP automatically, ie you gotta do shit with it. You could technically have Infinite speed and be 10-B.
 
Da3ggman said:
Nah we don’t use KE of shit once it goes beyond lightspeed, since it would then become infinite energy wise, which often doesn’t match up with series portrayal.

Unless you mean just logically, in which case we don’t correlate speed to AP automatically, ie you gotta do shit with it. You could technically have Infinite speed and be 10-B.
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Makes sense but it’s kinda funny lol
 
"scale to King Vegeta, who annihilated a string of planets with a wave of his hands"

Why do you guys keep using this non-canon feat? In Dragon Ball Z anime, ok. But in Dragon Ball Super anime, why? DBS anime IS canon. Like the manga. There is just a different version. And, in any case, this don't follow the DBZ Anime, let alone the filler episodes (bc King Vegeta's non-canon feat is only a non-canon scene, but it belongs to a non-canon episode), but the Dragon Ball manga.
 
ThiboGaleotti said:
"scale to King Vegeta, who annihilated a string of planets with a wave of his hands"

Why do you guys keep using this non-canon feat? In Dragon Ball Z anime, ok. But in Dragon Ball Super anime, why? DBS anime IS canon. Like the manga. There is just a different version. And, in any case, this don't follow the DBZ Anime, let alone the filler episodes (bc King Vegeta's non-canon feat is only a non-canon scene, but it belongs to a non-canon episode), but the Dragon Ball manga.
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Which profile links this feat?
 
ThiboGaleotti said:
"scale to King Vegeta, who annihilated a string of planets with a wave of his hands"

Why do you guys keep using this non-canon feat? In Dragon Ball Z anime, ok. But in Dragon Ball Super anime, why? DBS anime IS canon. Like the manga. There is just a different version. And, in any case, this don't follow the DBZ Anime, let alone the filler episodes (bc King Vegeta's non-canon feat is only a non-canon scene, but it belongs to a non-canon episode), but the Dragon Ball manga.
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If you are gonna yap at least do your research:
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Dragon Ball shared worldview

Hello, this CRT will aim to combine the cosmologies of the multiple Dragon Ball continuities into one; a shared worldview if you will. Just to be clear, this is NOT making all the events from each continuity canon, nor the characters. For starters, this scan goes over Akira Toriyama's...
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LegendariumOfLies said:
If you are gonna yap at least do your research:
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Dragon Ball shared worldview

Hello, this CRT will aim to combine the cosmologies of the multiple Dragon Ball continuities into one; a shared worldview if you will. Just to be clear, this is NOT making all the events from each continuity canon, nor the characters. For starters, this scan goes over Akira Toriyama's...
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I know EVERY interview of Toriyama about the anime; ok?
He never confirmed EVERY added scenes was canon, let alone ENTIRE fillers episodes.

One of the "proof" is an interview about the FILMS, but you proudly send me this lmao.

"Even though I draw the manga, I sometimes forget about the development, so when there's original content in the anime, when there's a very exciting and powerful scene, I get "What is going to happen...", I'm eating my rice during the evening, and having a lot of fun. Everyone, both the manga and anime are similar, but they are slightly different worlds even though both have "Dragon Ball", you'll certainly enjoy both of them." He didn't say this was canon/part of the story.

Thank you, but your thread don't prove that King Vegeta's scene is canon/part of the story. Like i said, you can use it for talking abt the DBZ anime but not the DBS anime, who follows the DBZ manga.
 
ThiboGaleotti said:
I know EVERY interview of Toriyama about the anime; ok?
He never confirmed EVERY added scenes was canon, let alone ENTIRE fillers episodes.

One of the "proof" is an interview about the FILMS, but you proudly send me this lmao.

"Even though I draw the manga, I sometimes forget about the development, so when there's original content in the anime, when there's a very exciting and powerful scene, I get "What is going to happen...", I'm eating my rice during the evening, and having a lot of fun. Everyone, both the manga and anime are similar, but they are slightly different worlds even though both have "Dragon Ball", you'll certainly enjoy both of them." He didn't say this was canon/part of the story.

Thank you, but your thread don't prove that King Vegeta's scene is canon/part of the story. Like i said, you can use it for talking abt the DBZ anime but not the DBS anime, who follows the DBZ manga.
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then do a thread? Talking about accepted stuff here as "it is wrong" does nothing you know? Like... at that point why do it at all? Just make a thread if you feel THAT strongly about it
 
Omegabronic said:
then do a thread? Talking about accepted stuff here as "it is wrong" does nothing you know? Like... at that point why do it at all? Just make a thread if you feel THAT strongly about it
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This is only ONE feat quoted here

King Vegeta's feat
Why should i/we made a thread about only one feat and one problem

There's probably more, but i don't care
 
Dbz Kai is accepted as canon to the Dbs anime.
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To be canon or not to be that is the question.A Dragon ball Super revision

Well hello everyone I am back with another crt the objective of this crt would be to prove why DBZ Kai is canon to DBS anime First let me lay some base for the argument in Dragon ball Super we can see them using flash backs from the anime for some scenes in super 1)In Dragon ball super...
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MannyQ361 said:
Dbz Kai is accepted as canon to the Dbs anime.
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To be canon or not to be that is the question.A Dragon ball Super revision

Well hello everyone I am back with another crt the objective of this crt would be to prove why DBZ Kai is canon to DBS anime First let me lay some base for the argument in Dragon ball Super we can see them using flash backs from the anime for some scenes in super 1)In Dragon ball super...
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? i don't understand what you wanted to prove since only ONE scene on this thread is a filler and this scene is part of a CANON episode.

King Vegeta's scene is a filler scene part of an ENTIRE filler episode. This is really a different matter.
 
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