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I still think it’s just an LS thing. Emily is also not a fighter.
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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread
- Thread starter WeeklyBattles
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If we say that Adam isnt stronger than her then we bloody loop ourselves back in the scaling chain to Weakened Alastor somehow kicking Adam's ass into non-existence. So yeah the youngest Seraphim shall stand on her own scaling until she figures out how to throw a punch
Mythic381
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Technically she wasn't an exorcist at the time.
Same thing, a chain suddenly wraps around you, doesn't mean you'd feel pain, especially with the fact he tanked being literally slammed a moment after.
Doubt she was going all out anyways.
Though I don't see why Angel Dust can't remotely downscale Valentino, yes he's owned by him so by virtue is weaker, but that doesn't mean he can't fight back? Him being owned by him seems to be more of the part why he doesn't fight back, rather than just being weaker.
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State your reasoning to the court
Mythic381
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Alastor says that even if Vox wanted to make Charlie say he is the strongest, it won't work, her will won't break, and it was shown multiple times that Charlie was so insistant about her dream and her ideology, that even when she had A ******* GENOCIDAL ASSHOLE IN FRONT OF HER, she didn't lose her will or wanted to kill him even in that state.
you need a great amount of mental strength to not lose your ideas or dreams, specially to this extent
Mythic381
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Oh no, he's mimicking Satan, it's done.
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Basically if you argue Emily is stronger than Adam then her being restrained by Vox means that Vox can restrain Adam. Since this is pre-100% that means that weakened Alastor could do the same. Add all the other stuff Alastor has and suddenly he's fighting Adam far better than the actual Full Power showdown
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From what I know supernatural willpower needs a decent example to actually be applied (hell I've been argued against that it needs an actual supernatural showing like resisting MC but that's not relevant). Basically, Charlie would need an actual showing of this willpower since on it's own this isn't much.
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what about being able to manifest a shield using your own will power?does that count?
DarkLock92
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What are you referring to?
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If you are referring to the giant explosion, then all the Overlords would get that if applicable.
Emily definitely gets it though, she was TOUGHING that stuff out despite being heavily injured and tired
Mythic381
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Charlie using all those around her as a shield for her problems!
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SENDOKAI CHAMPIONS
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I was referencing another show
Eden_Warlock99
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Hazbin doesn't have any UES from what I remember, so don't think we can say stronger AP = stronger LS
That's the reason the only person who's going to be Class G is Alastor.
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ah, went over my head
Mythic381
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That's assuming we can even prove he caused the explosion via his tentacles crushing it, which seems to be rather explosion manipulation.
also: (unrelated to this)
DarkLock92
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It's likely made out of angelic steel, does that change anything?
Mythic381
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Lets see, both Heaven's barrier and the gate were hit, the barrier got completely destroyed, while the gate not only survived the cannon, but the fall from Heaven to Hell.
I'd say it does.
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Tbf she may have superiority just in AP/SS/Dura, not necessarily LS
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Wait it actually fell? I did not get that while watching…
Can’t we calc KE of that? I hope it does not go into FTL territory.
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Why would he be slowly crushing the ship just to use Explosion Manip anyways
Mythic381
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Yes, it destroyed the Clocktower.
Mythic381
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Maybe he realized he can't do it so just applied the explosion, though I see potential arguments for both.Why would he be slowly crushing the ship just to use Explosion Manip anyways
Eden_Warlock99
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Donezo.
Another suggestion, there should probably be a main quote while the others are in a numbered tabber, see Adam's profile. Also the resistances rn being their own tabber makes it seem like even human Vox got them, so probably best to make em a sub-tab (see Sonic) or just fold them into Sinner Vox's PnA if they're just going to be two abilities.
Seriously though, props for making something that crazy good in just a week lol
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Yea we definitely need to try calc KE
Anonymous_Learner
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nothing like Charlie slander to hit in the middle of the night
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I don't like people touching my profiles (And I don't typically use profiles that people would want to do that for)
Thanks for some pointers, will see how it meshes in
That's only a third of what I've done. Also got Velvette and Valentino. I turned the Lupin profiles from nothing to gold, so I've had A LOT of practice. Thanks you for your support though
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okay so people don't like when the protagonists is the one who solves problems alone...but neither they like when they don't solve the problems themselves with help?nothing like Charlie slander to hit in the middle of the night
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What does Charlie do in Season 2 besides fumble, sing, and crash out?
We're downgrading that woman to Average intelligence when the general ability CRT comes out.
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If it was purely S2, I’d give her straight up Below Average, episodes 3-4 were that bad
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Charlie is a problem even when her conditions are "don't kill"
And everyone else is "just try to ******* kill them".
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"Hey, the train almost killing them was not part of the plan"If it was purely S2, I’d give her straight up Below Average, episodes 3-4 were that bad
"She bringed Niffty on the live interview"
"Who else could she bring?Vaggie won't help since people won't care for her, Alastor was out of the hotel, neither Husk nor Angel wanted to talk with Charlie that day, Cherry barely counted has a guests to bring into the equation, Lucifer, ******* NEPOTISM...Niffty at least has the popularity"
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"Yo I should totally invite my main opposition to broadcast the news of redemption which I have zero proof of, it's not like I have another great media influencer in the hotel that can help me"
"Uh oh since I have no proof I should speedrun redemption with zero understanding of how it works"
"Oops sorry Angie for screwing up big time again"
"I should totally say that I hate all Sinners in front of the Vees-controlled camera in a comment where I say that such words can be selectively cropped to make her look bad"
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"Oh yeah, let's say WORDS, that totally can help, oh wait, then they will be asking for sources...and how can I show them when I AM TALKING ON A MICROPHONE?" (Also Alastor barely has influence currently, MAN EVERYONE KNOWS HE WAS BEATEN UP)
"It could probably help having someone telling me about it, sadly heaven was locked down"
It is called misinformation
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OK this is just not true, there is no proof that Vox broadcasted his defeat, and even if they did Alastor was still a huge influencer (when Overlords heard that Alastor was beaten, they assumed it was Lucifer who did it, and when they heard it was Vox they were shocked and started holding him in the very high regard). He also pretty easily regained attention of many in Pentagram doing Stayed Gone.
Yeah, the most blatant obvious misinformation that even a toddler could see coming!
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