Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

[Detective_Blizzard]

Something something Omniman/Garou/Ichigo/Thanos/etc vs Niffty according to VSBW

Hulk vs Niffty

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Vox going from High 6-A to High 6-A at 100% again

These profiles are gonna be so ass

 

[Stellar_Fish]

Vox going from High 6-A to High 6-A at 100% again

These profiles are gonna be so ass

It's super annoying how everything in the hellaverse scales to each other despite being massive gaps in power I want to kms

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Vox going from High 6-A to High 6-A at 100% again

These profiles are gonna be so ass

Actually, as the dude making Vox's profile, dudes just gonna have a "Varies" rating from the low to high end since his ratings just allow for all of that. With a general "higher" or "far higher" in demon form

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

At least we can do this fight

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

It's super annoying how everything in the hellaverse scales to each other despite being massive gaps in power I want to kms

Damn, I wish we had a logic to avoid it... something like, not scaling the average value to any overlord since we know that there are massive gaps.... mmmh

 

[DarkLock92]

Does Shok.wav's strength scale to Vox's power? Bro got stuck inside the door to the tower after Vox got turned into an I-pad while he was pressing Alastor before. He also seems way smaller.

 

[Stellar_Fish]

Man I really hope season 3 gives Sera and Lucifer some Tier 5 feats and we won't be stuck with everyone being High 6-A forever

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Damn, I wish we had a logic to avoid it... something like, not scaling the average value to any overlord since we know that there are massive gaps.... mmmh

We also got the apparently literal song amp if need be

 

[Stellar_Fish]

We also got the apparently literal song amp if need be

I was gonna mention that but I prefer everyone being High 6-A than everyone but Lucifer being "At least 8-A likely far higher", so hush

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I do rather go with 8-A instead of saying that any fool have 100x the energy to wipe out earth

 

[Mythic381]

We also got the apparently literal song amp if need be

Song UES.

 

[Stellar_Fish]

I do rather go with 8-A instead of saying that any fool have 100x the energy to wipe out earth

I rather say that all overlords are less than 1/14th of Lucifer than saying that Alastor is 6% stronger than Sir Pentious

 

[Mythic381]

I do rather go with 8-A instead of saying that any fool have 100x the energy to wipe out earth

Wait a second...

Please do not attempt to upgrade the High Tiers of the verse, such as Alastor, to Planet level based off of this statement from the Zoophobia comic. Zoophobia has been confirmed as disconnected from the world of Hazbin Hotel, meaning this statement cannot be applied to those characters. The statement is also incredibly vague and likely does not qualify for Planet level in the first place.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Come on, we're making these ******* HIGH 6-A, we're going to take them all down.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Actually, as the dude making Vox's profile, dudes just gonna have a "Varies" rating from the low to high end since his ratings just allow for all of that. With a general "higher" or "far higher" in demon form

That's what I'm saying

"Varies, from High 6-A to High 6-A" lel

 

[Stellar_Fish]

Come on, we're making these ******* HIGH 6-A, we're going to take them all down.

-Y'all have any coherent scaling
-We have hype moments and aura

 

[Mythic381]

Just to make sure, the whole thing of High 6-A is Alastor scaling to Adam who scales to Lucifer, right?

 

[Stellar_Fish]

Just to make sure, the whole thing of High 6-A is Alastor scaling to Adam who scales to Lucifer, right?

It's actually much more disgusting than that since everyone now agrees that the explosion of the machine is just as or maybe even powerful than its beam so now everyone scales to 1/14th of it, even Prick

 

[DaReaperMan]

Just to make sure, the whole thing of High 6-A is Alastor scaling to Adam who scales to Lucifer, right?

Nope! It's scaling the overheat to the Might of Lilith itself, meaning everyone is 1/14th of Lucifer!

 

[DarkLock92]

Just to make sure, the whole thing of High 6-A is Alastor scaling to Adam who scales to Lucifer, right?

I think it's people arguing that the Might of Lilith explosion scales to Lucifer's full power.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I rather say that all overlords are less than 1/14th of Lucifer than saying that Alastor is 6% stronger than Sir Pentious

Knowing that Niffty is tuff as **** and that she is a overlord, could we scale her to Adam's casual beam, which is 7-C?

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Come on, we're making these ******* HIGH 6-A, we're going to take them all down.

SINCE WHEN WERE POWERSCALERS TOO SCARED TO AGENDA

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Yeah but it could have any area and any population, my calculation was just a massive hyperconservative estimation and still was the size of a country, so the explosion being High 6-A isn't contradictory despite it being insanely high for my liking

Yea my point too, I agree

Just to make sure, the whole thing of High 6-A is Alastor scaling to Adam who scales to Lucifer, right?

This + final explosion overloading Lucifer

Hulk vs Niffty

(She one-shots 3/4 of his keys)

 

[Stellar_Fish]

I think it's people arguing that the Might of Lilith explosion scales to Lucifer's full power.

It scales to the beam, I'm actually hoping Lucifer gets some Tier 5/4 feats in the future otherwise this will all be garbage

 

[Alexander]

you know what, i have seen more valid arguments for Sendokai being tier 2, and that show didn't show a actual universe getting destroyed.
(and i am still siding with Hazbin)

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

That's what I'm saying

"Varies, from High 6-A to High 6-A" lel

Nono, "Varies up to High 6-A". Haven't been following everything to a T but thats like thats the most it'll go. No reason to repeat myself

 

[Mythic381]

It's actually much more disgusting than that since everyone now agrees that the explosion of the machine is just as or maybe even powerful than its beam so now everyone scales to 1/14th of it, even Prick

I think it's people arguing that the Might of Lilith explosion scales to Lucifer's full power.

I think it's people arguing that the Might of Lilith explosion scales to Lucifer's full power.

How many people agree with that?

 

[DarkLock92]

It scales to the beam, I'm actually hoping Lucifer gets some Tier 5/4 feats in the future otherwise this will all be garbage

Right that's what I meant

 

[Stellar_Fish]

It scales to the beam, I'm actually hoping Lucifer gets some Tier 5/4 feats in the future otherwise this will all be garbage

Ok look, I have a way to actually scale Lucifer higher but idk what you think: The machine drains Lucifer's energy, at the beginning it was just a tickle for him and he was completely fine, and by the end of it he could barely stand. So we could actually give Lucifer's full energy the beam's power * the amount of times it got shot (Plus the explosion)

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Nono, "Varies up to High 6-A". Haven't been following everything to a T but thats like thats the most it'll go. No reason to repeat myself

Oh btw, think all the Vees should get a Mind Manip resistance since they're all unaffected by Velvette's Love Potion?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Knowing that Niffty is tuff as **** and that she is a overlord, could we scale her to Adam's casual beam, which is 7-C?

He pretty much intended to kill people here, c'mon.

She tanked it cuz she is very resistant to heat, we see vapor there but she makes thumbs up. That's at least how I interpret it.

 

[DarkLock92]

Oh btw, think all the Vees should get a Mind Manip resistance since they're all unaffected by Velvette's Love Potion?

Wouldn't every overlord get that via being unaffected by Vox's hypnosis?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Oh btw, think all the Vees should get a Mind Manip resistance since they're all unaffected by Velvette's Love Potion?

Every Overlord should probably have Mind Manip resistance, since Vox couldn't just force them to support him.
This'd mean Vox at peak should have layered Mind Manip (since Vox hypnotized them from Charlie's speech) and Alastor should layered resistance (since he was unaffected by it), I think?

Or maybe I'm hallucinating and the real reason is because he needs genuine support and approval. But that'd still mean he would've at least tried Carmilla.

 

[Stellar_Fish]

We escaped 8-A hell, and now we are in 6-A hell. The Hellaverse just can't catch a break

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Every Overlord should probably have Mind Manip resistance, since Vox couldn't just force them to support him.
This'd mean Vox at peak should have layered Mind Manip (since Vox hypnotized them from Charlie's speech) and Alastor should layered resistance (since he was unaffected by it), I think?

Or maybe I'm hallucinating and the real reason is because he needs genuine support and approval. But that'd still mean he would've at least tried Carmilla.

I could see it just being a weakness that Vox can only mind hax people he's superior to or something. But ye

 

[Mythic381]

Also, why don't we argue that Lucifer was drained and simply weaker at that point? We know the cannon works by draining him each separate time it's fired, and Lucifer looked more weaker each time, so the explosion doesn't actually scale to his full power?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

We escaped 8-A hell, and now we are in 6-A hell. The Hellaverse just can't catch a break

It's either we are stuck in Tier 8 hole or 6-A wank. C'mon now.

 

[DarkLock92]

Every Overlord should probably have Mind Manip resistance, since Vox couldn't just force them to support him.
This'd mean Vox at peak should have layered Mind Manip (since Vox hypnotized them from Charlie's speech) and Alastor should layered resistance (since he was unaffected by it), I think?

Or maybe I'm hallucinating and the real reason is because he needs genuine support and approval. But that'd still mean he would've at least tried Carmilla.

Why layered though? I don't remember the overlords themselves being hypnotized just the sinners, Zeezi's eyes were still green to me.

 

[Stellar_Fish]

Ok look, I have a way to actually scale Lucifer higher but idk what you think: The machine drains Lucifer's energy, at the beginning it was just a tickle for him and he was completely fine, and by the end of it he could barely stand. So we could actually give Lucifer's full energy the beam's power * the amount of times it got shot (Plus the explosion)

Do you think this idea is too much cocaine or is it worth considering it?