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And why would he do this when he has no prior knowledge of his ability?
Thats cool and all but none of them were his main win con. His main win con was one shotting Kaneki with an instantaneous decon. This has never changed.
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Kaneki's trump card was his speed amp, which was supposedly negated by Chisaki's precog. However, this turned out to be untrue. Furthermore, it turned out that Chisaki's ability was active, so Kaneki could destroy the arms before Chisaki could use decon
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One page of long comments about the same topic, can't we just ask staff members to make a decision? It doesn't seem like it'll end soon.
Delusionaltx2
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I second this
Delusionaltx2
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Generally speaking my stance is that we just add both matches and call it a day
but honestly to avoid further contentions lets just ask staff please
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These are like entirely different reasonings.
No he’s not going to deactivate his kagune because he doesn’t have prior knowledge and he doesn’t even know Overhaul has the capability of one shotting him.
His trump card is via Kakuja blitz, which he doesn’t even use because he needs to be put into a situation where he’s forced to activate it. He doesn’t do it off rip.
Overhaul has 4 hands and 20 fingers with 1 finger being enough to instantly one shot someone. Combined with the fact he doesn’t have any knowledge of him being capable of instantly killing him with a finger, this isn’t likely to happen. Also this sounds like he’s specifically trying to counter his decon, even though he doesn’t know this and all he knows is that he creates spikes.
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You said this, but Overhaul still doesn't have his victory on his profile.
Anyway, the staff is busy, and even after pinging them, no one has really responded yet.
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I've returned this to Kaneki's page. Give me some time, I'm fresh from work.
Mythic381
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Matchup:
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Reasoning:
Hiring Quanxi to assasinate the Hellaverse 8-As (Part 1)
First Target: -Radio Demon a.k.a Alastor -Target located in Cannibal town. RULES: -Speed is Equalized -Quanxi is Untransformed -Battle takes place in Cannibal town -Distance is 5 Meters -Both are in-character Upscales to 100 Tons of TNT, Scales above 443.66 Tons of TNT with Weapons Upscales...
Reasoning:
Edit: Doesn't actually speedblitz as it would only increase the equalized speed, but the point still stands in whole other categories as Alastor doesn't really have any wincons for this.
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Done
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Bump. I also think the following matches should be removed:
- Thanos vs Golden Freddy: according to what was said in the match, GF has passive and thought based soul/mind hax, so Thanos couldn't react and much less make a hand movement to even do something
- Avengers vs Tomura Shigaraki: seems like a stomp since anyone of the team (who aren't also AP stomped) can't survive his hax (plus they don't have their own), who also has superior stats and amps. The possible wincons for the Avengers discussed in the match are Scarlet Witch's hax (who isn't part of the team according to the profile and its note) and BFR with the Bifrost (something Thor never used and isn't part of his abilities), so the team doesn't seem to have any wincons
- Guardians of the Galaxy vs Avengers: the match was made when the Guardians were tier 8, and they were upgraded to 7-A a while ago, the same tier as the low-end of Thor and Hulk, so the match is highly outdated
- Guardians of the Galaxy vs Kaneki: according to the battle description, the Volume 2 key of the team was used, but the match uses Adam Warlock who isn't part of the team and was born after Yondu died, who is also used in the match. It also uses keys of characters from the Original team key: Hybrid Star-Lord instead of Celestial Star-Lord, and Adult Groot instead of Baby Groot
- Thor vs Asta: the match was made when Post-Awakening Thor/Stormbreaker were 6-B and they were upgraded to High 6-A since then, so it's outdated
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Yeah this one is outdated and if Arishem starts with TK there's really nothing Thanos can do against it.
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Mythic381
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bump?Matchup:
Hiring Quanxi to assasinate the Hellaverse 8-As (Part 1)
First Target: -Radio Demon a.k.a Alastor -Target located in Cannibal town. RULES: -Speed is Equalized -Quanxi is Untransformed -Battle takes place in Cannibal town -Distance is 5 Meters -Both are in-character Upscales to 100 Tons of TNT, Scales above 443.66 Tons of TNT with Weapons Upscales...
Reasoning:
Edit: Doesn't actually speedblitz as it would only increase the equalized speed, but the point still stands in whole other categories as Alastor doesn't really have any wincons for this.
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I discussed the matches with KingTempest, and he said we can freely choose character versions for team matches. So, I've chosen the strongest versions.
Adam isn't a wincon for the match, and the match result wasn't even added to his profile, so we can simply remove him from the requirements.
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That doesn't make any sense, if you use a specific team key, you should also have to use the corresponding keys of the characters. It's like using the Endgame Avengers but with the character keys of the original team. Besides, Hybrid Star-Lord and Adult Groot never fought alongside Nebula or Mantis, it should be Celestial Star-Lord and Baby Groot respectively if you are using the Volume 2 key, the profile has them for a reason
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Friend, I clarified the nuances regarding the versions quite a while ago, so there shouldn't be any problems with this.
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@CastoriceTheFifth Is this true?this match needs to be removed
Izuku Midoriya (Deku) Vs Ryomen Sukuna (MHA Vs Jujutsu Kaisen) [9-1-0]
Izuku Midoriya (Final Act) Vs Ryomen Sukuna No its not High 6-A Deku Dark Hero Arc 30% Deku will be used Attack Potency: 2.15 Megatons, 10.75 Megatons with Fa Jin Durability: 2.15 Megatons Lifting Strength: Class G True Form Sukuna will be used Attack Potency: 514.2429 Kilotons, 550 Kilotons...
it was agreed deku stomps
Mythic381
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bumpMatchup:
Hiring Quanxi to assasinate the Hellaverse 8-As (Part 1)
First Target: -Radio Demon a.k.a Alastor -Target located in Cannibal town. RULES: -Speed is Equalized -Quanxi is Untransformed -Battle takes place in Cannibal town -Distance is 5 Meters -Both are in-character Upscales to 100 Tons of TNT, Scales above 443.66 Tons of TNT with Weapons Upscales...
Reasoning:
Edit: Doesn't actually speedblitz as it would only increase the equalized speed, but the point still stands in whole other categories as Alastor doesn't really have any wincons for this.
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But both have Low 1-C keys
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AlipheeseXIV
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What is bro talking about. Did you accidentally reply to my message?
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Oh, I misspelled it. Both characters have the "Low 1-C" key, and as long as those tiers are in their profiles, the matches make sense
AlipheeseXIV
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Fair enough, however it's still not okay and is a mismatch because the OP states that both characters are at their strongest keys and uses SBA. Which is now 1B, so it should be removed regardless, because it doesn't follow the rules stated by the OP nor the SBA page.
Mythic381
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bumpMatchup:
Hiring Quanxi to assasinate the Hellaverse 8-As (Part 1)
First Target: -Radio Demon a.k.a Alastor -Target located in Cannibal town. RULES: -Speed is Equalized -Quanxi is Untransformed -Battle takes place in Cannibal town -Distance is 5 Meters -Both are in-character Upscales to 100 Tons of TNT, Scales above 443.66 Tons of TNT with Weapons Upscales...
Reasoning:
Edit: Doesn't actually speedblitz as it would only increase the equalized speed, but the point still stands in whole other categories as Alastor doesn't really have any wincons for this.
Anonymous_Learner
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honestly, you can probably remove it for the reasons that you provided, just be sure to put those reasonings in the edit when removing it from both profiles too and be prepared to defend it when you get questioned for its removal
Mythic381
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I'l see ig.
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It's still a speedblitz, because the speed equation only works on starting forms. Transformation gives a blitz boost.Matchup:
Hiring Quanxi to assasinate the Hellaverse 8-As (Part 1)
First Target: -Radio Demon a.k.a Alastor -Target located in Cannibal town. RULES: -Speed is Equalized -Quanxi is Untransformed -Battle takes place in Cannibal town -Distance is 5 Meters -Both are in-character Upscales to 100 Tons of TNT, Scales above 443.66 Tons of TNT with Weapons Upscales...
Reasoning:
Edit: Doesn't actually speedblitz as it would only increase the equalized speed, but the point still stands in whole other categories as Alastor doesn't really have any wincons for this.
Meanwhile, Alastor has shadow tentacles that Quanxi can't affect and an LS advantage. I wouldn't call it a stomp, so it's best to contact a moderator.
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Cradle's strongest form is "Low 1-C, possibly 1-B." 1-B isn't a different key, but a hypothetical interpretation of the same form.
Simply specify in the terms that you're using the Low 1-C key, and the match will be fine.
Mythic381
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It gives higher speed, but the speed difference itself isn't high enough for a speedblitz.
His tentacles aren't non-physical and Alastor doesn't have the LS advantage.
Alastor LS: 1156.36176953 tons
Transformed Quanxi LS: 2,549.918 tons
AlipheeseXIV
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Dawg that's not how it works, possibly ratings are still used when considering the strongest forms and is apart of SBA rules. So no, that would completely go against it being a proper matchup, as it would need to be put under F&G's. (I have literally tried making a normal matchup like this recently and was told to put it under F&G's for this exact reason) The possibly rating is not something to write off when it literally goes against the entire rules surrounding the matchup in the thread.
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I agree that the match is null and void, but that's due to recent SDBH upgrades, not Cradle's AP.
Versus Thread Rules
The VS Battles Wiki is mainly a site that attempts to index the statistics of characters across many different fictional franchises. However, as the site name implies, we also allow our members to pit fictional characters against each other in hypothetical matchups for entertainment purposes...
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You can, in fact, restrict things listed as "possibly" and still have a valid match.
AlipheeseXIV
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Curious as to what this is, but not really too relevant ig.
The upgrade was added well after the matchup was already finished, so it either needs to be removed and redone with that in mind since it goes against what the OP wrote down for the rules because that optional stuff was never apart of the original matchup, or it should explicitly be stated on both combatants page that due to a change in tier that this is the case. Because currently it does not state anything like that on the page and is very misleading to anyone who views it now."The match can also be added if Optional Equipment such as optional power-ups and items are restricted, or if the ability being restricted is indexed after a "Likely" or "Possibly" conditional."Versus Thread Rules
The VS Battles Wiki is mainly a site that attempts to index the statistics of characters across many different fictional franchises. However, as the site name implies, we also allow our members to pit fictional characters against each other in hypothetical matchups for entertainment purposes...
You can, in fact, restrict things listed as "possibly" and still have a valid match.
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heya
This should be removed from both GT Goku's page and Heroes' Broly page, because the key used for Broly became Low 1-C against GT Goku's 2-C rating
Edit: If needed, just open the pages and i do it myself
This should be removed from both GT Goku's page and Heroes' Broly page, because the key used for Broly became Low 1-C against GT Goku's 2-C rating
Edit: If needed, just open the pages and i do it myself
Nonynho
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Just saw that someone opened the pages and i have done the removal
They can be closed now
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