Yet Another Massive Marvel P&A CRT (Aka Part 3 of My Marvel Revisions)

[Eseseso]

Very well, though they were still threatening realms like the White Hot Room and the Land of Couldn't Be Shouldn't Be. Plus would it still count as NPI?

Also, what do you think of this:

Also I removed the 8-C storm stuff

 

[FentyBeauty]

Spoiler: Agatha Harkness

• Further support for being a High-Tier Sorceress (Taught Scarlet Witch thousands of spells)
• Weapon Mastery (Fought evenly with Scarlet Witch in a sword fight)
• Curse Manipulation & Mind Manipulation (Could've cursed a boy to a lifetime of numismatic obsession with a wink, from Scarlet Witch (2023) Annual #1)
• Cloth Manipulation (Casually changed her attire with a gesture)
• Dimensional Travel (1-A Range. Can travel to the Superflow)

omg wait eseseso i foegot to tell u this but aggie already has the outer range from going to the superflow & the clothing one is in her list of powers rn, so i think u could prolly take those ones out too if that’s okay for u!

and also for wanda

• Metal Manipulation (Can completely rust a large metal door in seconds, making it weak enough for her to smash through without any magic)

i honestly feel like corrosion inducement would be a better fit for this instead of the metal manip thing bc rust is basically just corrosion in metal

 

[Antvasima]

I agree with Impress' evaluations here, and will wait to see what she or other reliable members have to say about the recent Scarlet Witch suggestions.

 

[HigashikataJobin]

I'd like to suggest something. To change the currently Fury profile with this sandbox of mine. Only the tiering that need to be evaluated.

 

[Eseseso]

I'd like to suggest something. To change the currently Fury profile with this sandbox of mine. Only the tiering that need to be evaluated.

Sorry but it'd be better to make your own CRT

 

[Artix9]

Profectus' objections above seem to make sense to me, and no mentions were made of multiple Black Winters being destroyed by the Scarlet Witch alone. Also, the original Black Winter destroyed the previous iteration of the Marvel multiverse and was the master of Galactus. It was a singular entity, so I think that Hadad simply created his own versions, which were here explicitly stated to be inferior to the universal Oblivion.

Then again, as I have said previously, the Storm comicbook is more written as a gleefully malicious and spiteful trollfic against Thor, and a means to elevate Storm above everybody else in a power-mad manner, than as something qualifying as an actual valid and interesting story of its own.

It was already stated in the comic that the black winters were created by Hadad.

Knull came to Earth with symbiotic celestials.

This author is doing the same thing for Hadad, the only difference being that he is using the black winter race.

(I agree with Profectus)

 

[Antvasima]

So has the original Black Winter somehow been retconned now, despite that Hadad is "only" a billion years old and the original Black Winter destroyed the Sixth Cosmos likely over 13 billion years ago? That doesn't make any sense, but neither does almost anything in the current Storm comicbook.

 

[Eseseso]

I agree with Impress' evaluations here, and will wait to see what she or other reliable members have to say about the recent Scarlet Witch suggestions.

1. Do you think the Darkhold powers should still be added to Wanda's page given that she absorbed it and is literally the living Darkhold?

2. What do you think about the other additions I proposed?

I mean, she is a mutant while DD and BW are "only" peak human.

Also, would you mind me adding this to the Scarlet Witch section of the OP:

(Scarlet Witch's soul contains the True Darkhold, containing countless nightmarish realms embodying the darkest stories of everybody that ever lived or will live, with its own separate flow of time and space. Every single layer of the True Darkhold's realm within Wanda's soul has at least a lifetime of time and was/is as large as a person could explore in that lifetime)

Further Type 1 Purification (Removed a mythical infection from a town using a spell)

Further Weapon Creation (Can create spears of energy)

Further Portal Creation & BFR (Done here with a snap of her fingers)

Also, I'd like to add this as another justification for Gods having magic:

("Pacts between mortals and gods are considered magic" Strange Academy: Moon Knight Vol 1 1)

Also I removed the 8-C storm stuff

 

[Antvasima]

I am not sure yet. I would prefer to see further evaluations first. My apologies.

 

[Eseseso]

I am not sure yet. I would prefer to see further evaluations first. My apologies.

No worries. I'm on vacation until the 11th so until then I won't be able to use my laptop, so I'm in no real rush.

 

[Eseseso]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

I agree with Impress' evaluations here, and will wait to see what she or other reliable members have to say about the recent Scarlet Witch suggestions.

I would appreciate further informed evaluations here.

 

[Artix9]

So has the original Black Winter somehow been retconned now, despite that Hadad is "only" a billion years old and the original Black Winter destroyed the Sixth Cosmos likely over 13 billion years ago? That doesn't make any sense, but neither does almost anything in the current Storm comicbook.

They are not the original Black Winters, so no.

Also, I disagree. Thanks to the Storm author, the Oblivion vs. Tribunal debate that has been going on since 2021 is now closed.

 

[Eseseso]

Bump

 

[SamanPatou]

As I've done with other huge threads, I'll check the op first and splitting it in multiple posts (this thread's reeeeaaally too big, man), and then check the comments that followed:

Scarlet Witch

• More justifications for her base/physical High 8-C AP/Durability (Without her magic, drew blood from and took many hits from Scythia, an Olympian Amazon who no-sold having Scarlet Witch's entire shop fall on her before easily shattering the shop into rubble and destabilized an entire apartment building simply by running through it, despite both Scarlet Witch holding back during their two fights and Scythia wielding magic-nullifying Low Mysterium armor in their second fight. Fought evenly with demonically mutated versions of War Machine and U.S. Agent, and later one-shot the demonically mutated U.S. Agent with a punch. Her punches can easily shatter bones. Was unharmed by U.S. Agent throwing a shield at the back of her head)

I've never been a fan of High 8-C Wanda and I believe these feats would allow her to sit in a more plausible 8-C tier.
Her scuffle with Black Cat wasn't anything special, ap-wise tbh, and doesn't surpass the criteria I believe are necessary to warrant full scaling.
That said, unless she was somehow physically empowered during the last battle with Scythia, their fight's enough for scaling.
I say 8-C because her KO'ing demon US Agent warrants it and Scythia's two feats (the shop and the wall) most likely fall within that tier.
I would remove the "holding back" bit, as she seems to be referring to her magic powers, rather than physical strength (she specifically threatens her exposed chin and talks about vaporizing her).
Also, the first sentence needs a totally rewriting to make it more concise and less confusing, I may give a hand later.

• Edit the speed of her base key to "At least Hypersonic (Can keep up with Black Cat, with Spider-Woman, and with demonic versions of both War Machine and U.S. agent), up to Immeasurable at peak (Kept up with Chaos, an abstract comparable to Death, Nightmare, and Eternity)", and change her House of M key to the same rating via being comparable if not superior to her base key

I guess it's fine, thought you automatically lose my interest whenever we step into tier 1.

• Change her Lifting Strength to "At least Peak Human physically (Effortlessly chucked a demonically mutated and largened War Machine with one hand), up to Class M with powers (Restrained a bloodlusted Sabertooth with her powers. Slams a semi-trailer truck into Thor. Lifted a building to drop on Count Neferia)

Looks good.

• Another 1-A feat for her peak base as well as Non-Physical Interaction (Was capable of destroying multiple Black Winters)
  • This would be added to her profile as "even higher with the Darkhold's power [since it's a Chthonic aura, indicating that she was tapping into the Darkhold] (Far stronger than her standard peak, as she can tap into the power of the Darkhold itself. Was capable of destroying multiple Black Winters which were threatening The Land of Couldn't-Be-Shouldn't-Be)
• Not sure how I forgot to put this on her profile, but she should have all the powers of The Darkhold considering she absorbed it and is now the Living Darkhold, even after Chthon escaped.

I'm not sure I'm seeing multiple Black Winters being destroyed here and isn't she using the Phoenix Force?
Also, should she have another key for the Darkhold?

• Type 1 Acausality (Doctor Strange states that when Wanda uses her powers, her actions become a touchstone for reality and act in eternal opposition to their own erasure, making it impossible to erase herself—as in her actions—from her own history, from Empyre: X-Men Vol. 1 #1; 2020. Interacted with her past and future selves without issues for any of them)

Cringe word-salad but I guess it works. Maybe it warrants type 4 as well? I'm not sure.

• Type 2 Immortality (Low Mid, possibly Mid. Easily healed from being vertically bisected by Nicholas Scratch)

That would still be Type 3, because she still needs to put herself together in order to survive. Also, I'm questioning whether this is actual bisection or weird magical shenanigans, either because of the graphics (though they probably had to censor the gore) or the context; I gave a quick look at the issue but I couldn't quite tell.

• • Soul Regeneration (Can split her soul into thousands of seeds if it is under an otherwise lethal attack [such as Lore's soul-rotting attack], with her being capable of regenerating her entire soul from just one of the seeds even if the others are all destroyed)

I feel like I'm missing a ton of context but we can't reasonably upload whole comics, so I'm trusting this is indeed her soul-self. This would work as Fissionism as well but regeneration works.

• Space Survival (After creating a portal to the moon, instantly created a space suit around herself to breathe and survive in space as she and the Griever fell through the portal)

Swap it to Creation, our criteria for Space Survival require the character to be unassisted.

• BFR & Matter Manipulation [Atomic] (Sent a falling spaceship to the quantum realm in a manner described as "atom by atom". Sent countless demonic creatures back to the Outer Dark with a spell. Sent Nicholas Scratch to the Witches' Underworld. Casually sends Reaper to a pocket realm of pitch darkness and claws that he can never escape. Sends a monster from the ocean back to its home on Monster Isle)
  • BFR & Empathic/Soul Manipulation (Knocked the hope out of The Wizard's soul before casting him down to a realm where thought attracts tireless swarms of hornets)
  • Portal Creation (Created a large number of portals before scattering the Griever's essence across a myriad of dimensions. Creates a portal beneath Scythia to send her out of the city of Lotkill. Sends Nicholas Scratch to the Witches' Underworld)
  • Pocket Reality Creation (Sends Doctor Hydro to a bubble reality woven from the New Jersey DMV)
  • Sealing (Contained Livequeen in a sphere of magical energy before banishing her from Vivian's Dreamscape)

All of this seems ok, but I'm questioning the Wizard's scan, just because I don't see references to "hope" or the hornet dimension.
I'd make the pocket reality creation a "possibly", since nothing says she personally vowed it.
I think forcefield creation fits better than sealing.

• Fire Manipulation, Metal Manipulation, Attack Reflection, & Forcefield Creation (Scarlet Witch's hex powers include spontaneously combusting flammable objects, melting gun barrels, deflecting projectiles, and creating force-fields)

I automatically reject everything supported only by guidebooks so I'll pass on this one (I know the following links are some evidences, I'm just rejecting the guidebook scans being a primary source)

• • Attack Reflection (Deflected Enchantress's attack spell back at her with a hex, and can use probability alteration to deflect projectiles)
  • Forcefield Creation (Creates a magic barrier around the entire town of Lotkill powerful to keep out Scythia, an Olympian Amazon. Can use a Roma hex to create a protective shield around herself. Creates a forcefield to block multiple incoming daggers)
  • Metal Manipulation (Can completely rust a large metal door in seconds, making it weak enough for her to smash through without any magic)
• Fire Manipulation & Electricity Manipulation (Can unleash vampiric firebolts born of pre-cataclysmic Atlantis)
  • Fire Manipulation (Scarlet Witch had no issue manipulating and swallowing fire. Set the demon Elos on fire, disintegrating his body in seconds)
  • Electricity Manipulation: (Electrocutes four of the Wizard's Frightful Four Hundred to the point of destroying them without even moving. Electrocutes a group of Skrulls)

These are fine

• Law Manipulation, Reality Warping, Telekinesis, Paralysis Inducement, Causality Manipulation, Memory Manipulation, Extrasensory Perception, Attack Reflection, & Energy Manipulation (Wanda's powers let her change the laws of reality itself and shape the world according to her needs and desires, such as levitating people and objects, inducing paralysis, manipulating matter, resurrecting the dead, altering history and memories, detecting and deflecting elemental forces, and manipulating energy fields)

As above, I don't like these being used as primary sources before the comic scans themselves.

• • Further Law Manipulation (Her hexes pull apart the standard laws of probability)

I'd shove this one under probability manipulation, the usage of the word "law" makes it only redundant, considering that at the ends she's just using the same power.

• • Further Causality Manipulation (Easily rewrote reality to undo Wonder Man's death by simply creating a version of her house and Wonder Man that were never destroyed)

Is this some temporary power up she has or not? Not knowing the context, the characters' statements make me doubt.

• Further Telekinesis (Used a hex to suspend multiple large falling boulders in the air. Lifts a building to drop on Count Neferia)
• Further Extrasensory Perception (Casually senses her own blood's iron quantity and the laughter of a god in the air)
• Further Energy Manipulation (Casually creates a large (mechanical) bolt of energy with a mere wave of her fingers, with enough power to break the Reaper's blade. Turns her hex pike into birds made of energy. Creates chains and even an anchor out of energy to restrain Nelson Gruber. Creates an insect out of energy to forcefully attack the Griever's insides. Blasts a large hole through the Bricklayer's body with a gesture, before creating a massive dragon's head of energy from beneath him to chomp him in half. Creates a massive dragon from hex energy. Threatens to send a hex down Thor's throat that would shred his insides in a torrent of pure chaos. Creates a hex energy bubble to muffle the majority of the force of Iron Man's blast)
• Energy Absorption (Created a hex-sphere around Nuklo to trap and contain him as well as completely drain his energy, even as Nuklo kept expanding in size, from Giant-Sized Avengers #1. Can absorb the chaos-based energy of others. even those who are resistant to her hexes)
  • Mind Manipulation Negation & Magic Absorption (Absorbs Moonglow's magic before freeing the Squadron from mind-control, from Avengers (1998) #6)

All of this is fine but I'd remove th negation, as the mind control wore off as an effect of the disappearance of Moonglow's magic.

• Further Telepathy (Telepathically communicates with Darcy, Hexfinder, Polaris, and Quicksilver despite fighting the Griever on the moon)
• Statistics Amplification & Transformation (Can tap into the Darkhold that is contained within her, with even a sliver of its power unleashed giving her a huge boost in power (though to do so is difficult for her due to the risks of unleashing the Darkhold's power, making it more of a last resort), and her Darkhold chaos magic easily tore through the Endlings that earlier had no-sold and devoured her normal chaos hexes.
  • It's Transformation due to her gaining a few tentacles and a slight appearance change, including wings
  • Statistics Amplification (Was capable of massively boosting Domino's luck powers)
• Ice Manipulation (Flash-freezes a typhoon. Encases an enemy in ice)
• Spatial Manipulation & Cloth Manipulationn (Easily swaps positions and clothes with Wicked Witch by using a spatial hex)
  • Clothing Manipulation (Casually changes her outfit with her magic)
  • Space-Time Manipulation (Using a hex, undoes the phasing between reality and time that she and her fellow Avengers are trapped in)
• Magnetism Manipulation (Magnetizes a wall)
• Further Dimensional Travel (Can travel to the Overspace, an entirely new realm of existence beyond time and space where Abstract Entities reside, which is a subsector of the Mystery beyond the Omniverse. Quickly travels across multiple dimensions in a short time with Vision, before arriving at the timeless Clutch Dimension, a realm of pure concussive force)

All looks fine but I must point out that thw Clutch Dimension is said to be the inverse of pure concussive force.

• Dimensional Manipulation (Uses a hex to enter a dimension that was separate yet overlapping with the mortal plane)

This still looks like Dimensional Travel, she's entering another realm, not affecting it.

• Further Automatic Translation (With her linguistic enchantment)

This is ok

• Supernatural Luck (Should vastly upscale from Domino, given that she is stated to have higher-level probability alteration powers in contrast to Domino's lower-level probability alteration powers and was easily capable of massively overclocking Domino's own supernatural luck with her hex magic)

I'm against it because Supernatural Luck implies a passive status/influence, which isn't the case for Wanda. Their powers are different in means but equal in the result; Wanda actively alters probability as she wishes/in more meaningful ways, while Domino does it passively and unconsciously in less relevant manner, but it's done in a way different from Wanda's magic. (edit: check my next line, I've changed my mind)

• Advanced Probability Manipulation (1 Layer. Her probability alteration powers, both passive and active, are equal to the macro-scale probability manipulation fields of a Celestial Extermination Drone, when just being inside the drone's shifting web of probability fields used to defend itself would have caused a Domino whose luck was amplified by Scarlet Witch to certainly die despite Domino's own resistance to the outside probability field the drone was emitting. Turns a suicide mission into one of triumph with her probability alteration. Gave dozens of Lotkill residents enough good luck to each get a guaranteed lottery win. Can make the odds of a bookshelf falling change from 1 million-to-one to a final certainty, and can make any and all falling debris avoid her. Makes a many-sided die guaranteed to land on the number she needs. Makes the odds of a helicopter sponteneously combusting/exploding change from a remote possibility to almost a dead certainty)

Ok nevermind, Supernatural Luck's fine, as it is all the rest.

• • Statistics Amplification & Matter Manipulation (Macro-Quantum, likely Quantum. Was able to both amplify Wasp's shrinking abilities and increase the probability of Wasp finding a certain person within the Microverse, meaning that her probability-altering hexes can work on a level smaller than quarks, neutrinos, and planck strings)
• Further Healing (Completely heals a man whose nervous system had been lethally damaged)
• Technology Manipulation (Anytime she uses her powers, Iron Man's sensors are rendered useless)

That's all fine but I'd call the last one Resistance to Information Analysis/ESP, since the sensors are unable to scan her powers, not influenced into not working.

• Fusionism (Forcefully fuses the In-Betweener's split halves of Chaos and Order back into one being)
• Fissionism (Reverses the fusion of the Uni-Mind, from The Avengers #248)
• Cosmic Awareness (Due to her chaos powers being fused to the very chaotic fabric of the universe, she can sense chaos-based disruptions to reality such as the In-Betweener spliting into two halves of Order and Chaos)
• Size Manipulation (Made herself roughly the same size as Gargantos, dwarfing White Vision and Reaper, before attacking and wounding the Old One. Can shrink herself and others to a microscopic level with Sise-Neg's shrinking charm)
• Acid Manipulation (With the Bile of Satha)
• Energy Manipulation, Large Size & Aura (Type 1. Made a large Chthonic energy projection surrounding herself along with multiple massive energy tendrils capable of destroying multiple Black Winters)

All's fine but the Chton construct looks more type 0.

• • Flight (Created a large bird of energy around herself to both fly out of Hexfinder's trap and pin down Hexfinder, who was comparable to Wanda physically)
  • Shockwave Generation (Created an aura by powering up that knocked Agatha Harkness back and destroyed nearby trees)
• Energy Projection (Can fire energy beams from her eyes)
• Necromancy (Uses her scrying magic on one of the Reaper's deceased bodies to view his recent past. Took control of the Reaper's undead army away from him with a hex)
• Psychometry (Uses her scrying magic on one of the Reaper's deceased bodies to view his recent past. Can use an anti-scry spell to view one's past, though rarely in detail)
• Light Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Necromancy Negation, & Type 7 Immortality Negation (Unleashed a light that seared away Lore's necromantic magic and sent the souls of an entire undead army back into their graves)

All's fine but I believe the last one could be summarized in Necromancy Negation to avoid redundancy with too many sub-abilities that don't really matter when added besideds the main identity of the ability.

• Illusion Creation (Used her possibility powers to create illusory echoes of all the alternate versions of the Reaper that he could've chosen to be in order to emotionally attack him. Used a glamour to hide her scars)

This is fine but maybe the first's limited to her possible Darkhold-related key?

• Perception Manipulation (Hexed Maynard Tibolt into seeing and believing that the worthless glass jewelry copies she gave him were authentic in nature)
• Biological Manipulation (Even with her magic stripped, manages to use her probability hex powers to affect Moridun's cells and make him explode. Used a transformation spell to forcibly alter Dreamqueen's body so that she'd need to consume the joy and bliss of others to survive instead of their suffering)
  • Durability Negation (Inflicts internal damage on a possessed man with a gesture)

All fine but I'm not sold on Dura Neg, it could be a telekinetic or magic blast, given the kinetic lines and his being manhandled away.

• • Explosion Manipulation (Causes the joints of a group of Endlings to bloodily crunch and burst)

I'd put this under Biological Manipulation as well, the limbs aren't really exploding.

• • Intangibility (Phases through the Griever's body and uses the Grottu's Regret spell to make her develop pustulant exploding boils on her body)

Is this her physical form or her astral projection? She looks like a ghost here. Also, the spell fits well under Bio Manip as well.

• Body Puppetry (Forces Reptilla's snake arms to wrap around her)
• Air Manipulation (Steals the air from around Hexfinder, only failing to choke her out due to her producing air as fast as Wanda can steal it. Can hex the oxygen away from her opponents. Makes all the carbon dioxide in the room wrap around Electro, causing him to faint from a lack of oxygen)
  • Flight (Can fly via localized non-randomization of chaotic air-current motion)
• Shockwave Creation (Her hex-spheres' shockwaves can knock her opponents off-balance)
• Earth Manipulation & Additional Limbs (Creates an arm from the earth large enough to restrain Hexfinder)

All's fine but I wouldn't count the last one as an additional limb, as it's not part of her or a construct's body.

• Memory Manipulation (Removed a memory from Black Cat's mind to nullify her accidental mental corruption)
• Summoning & Animal Manipulation (Uses a Chthonic spell to summon a pair of death-sensing and death-devouring birds known as Canker Vrokks to both carry and guide her and vision through the Grim Reaper's realm of death. Can briefly summon a spirit of the dead, albeit only if they are willing)
• Resurrection/Healing & Life Manipulation (Was able to revive a dying Vision by infusing his heart with a combination of raw luck and life magic. Healed the bloody wounds of both herself and Scythia)
  • Life Manipulation, Creation, & Plant Manipulation (Turns a stillborn world in the Outer Dark into a world full of life, both plants and animals)

The first powers are fine but the last one seems to be limited, as the narrator (or another character?) seems to imply this is possible only because they're in their own realm. Same applies to the Fate and Time Manipulation proposals down here.

• • • Age Manipulation (Her hex explosively germinates some underground seeds and ages them 500 years in a millisecond, turning them into massive trees)
• Fate Manipulation (Is described as living eucatastrophe and can "bend destiny", from Vision & The Scarlet Witch (2025) #5)
• Mind Manipulation (Bewitched an army of flying monkeys resistant to her standard attacks)
• Further Power Nullification (Negates Quentin Quire's "world class telekinetic powers" with a flick of her hand. Dissipates a massive energy beam drilling to the core of the Earth with a snap of her fingers)
  • Further Type 2 Purification (Purged Man-Bull of the enchantment that turned him into an impossibly strong minotaur, albeit her hex was strengthened by the minotaur's animal nature. Knows a spell of Exorcism)
  • Further Light Manipulation (Dispels Nyx's darkness spell with a spell of light, from Avengers: No Road Home #5)
• Layered Time Manipulation (1 layer. Casually slowed down time to the point of affecting even Thor, despite gods existing on a different flow of time and being highly resistant to changes in standard time. Brings time to the timeless realm of the Outer Dark with her magic. She also froze time off-screen)
  • Due to her bringing time to the timeless realm of the Outer Dark, her time magic is thus capable of affecting timeless entities)
• Duplication (Creates multiple duplicates of herself out of magic energy)
• Further Transmutation (Turns a fire creature into stone. Turned a truck into water. Turns War Machine's armor into pure iron to repel a demonic army. Turns multiple Stark Sentinels into playing cards. Easily transmogrifies Thor's lighting)
• Advanced Non-Physical Interaction & Intangibility Negation (By manipulating probabilities, arranged the probability of her and Lore existing on the same plane of reality which removed Lore's intangibility and gave her weight, sense, and form, when before she was a spirit-like form that existed outside Earth's plane of reality and could not be affected by physical blows)

So far all's fine but the last one isn't neither of those powers, since she's is neither making her physical directly (thus negating) nor touching her while intangible (thus NPI). I would call it Spatial Manipulation, since she's making so they exist on the same plane of reality.

• Water Manipulation (Controlled a river and made it crash onto Enchantress)
• Further Existence Erasure (Even when unable to tap into her Life Force powers, stated that she could simply wish Doctor Doom out of existence if she wanted, which Doom himself confirmed)
• Further Weapon Creation (Created various weapons of energy, but Scythia's magic-nullifying armor allowed her to smash through them. Created a large energy staff to envelop and attack Hexfinder, which Hexfinder confirmed to have incinerated her. Created a pickaxe out of energy almost instantly in order to block an attack. Creates a massive axe to block an incoming strike. Creates a sword and shield out of energy)
  • Weapon Mastery (Fought Agatha Harkness in a sword fight. Is shown to be a skilled user of the melee weapons she creates at close range, such as here)
• Vector Manipulation (Stops the momentum of a launching rocket completely with a hex-sphere)

All's fine, but the last resembles more a mundane forcefield.

• Dream Manipulation (Can mentally traverse into the Dreamscapes of others, though it leaves her and her target unconscious)
• Sleep Manipulation & Teleportation (Makes all of the Avengers and X-Men fall asleep, before teleporting herself and others to Doctor Doom's lair)
• Pocket Reality Creation (Casually creates a pocket reality on the spot for Black Cat to stay in, even creating a room with drinks in it without issue)
• Pocket Reality Nullification (Easily shattered the pocket realms where Nicholas Scratch had trapped her sons and Amaranth)
  • Domain Expansion users are all now Scarlet Witch victims
• Deconstruction & Gravity Manipulation/Forcefield Creation (Dissolves Gargantos' tentacle to free herself from its grip, before using gravity to create a shield against the planets he threw against her. Casually deconstructed a group of people into small blocks and later does so again to a giant mud monster. Even with her chaos magic weakened, easily deconstructs Hexfinder's hellfire bazooka. Contains a black hole using her magic)

All's fine but I'd separate Deconstruction and Gravity.

• Probability Manipulation Nullification (Was capable of blocking the macro-scale probability fields of a Celestial-built Extermination Drone)

Small note, I'd put all the various nullifications shown thus far (and maybe later if there are any) under a single "Power Nullification" and maybe write the various abilities being nullified in bolded, as in "Power Nullification. (Necromancy XXXX Probability: XXX etc..)"

• Sealing (Kept Wasp, Agatha Harkness, Captain America, and Wonder Man pinned with a forcefield wrapped around them. Traps two mutant outlaws in an energy cube)ù

Still not sealing to me, these are magical forcefields, not magical locks, prisons, locking spells etc..

• Support/Justification for Scarlet Witch being a High-Tier Sorceress (Is well-versed in traditional magic and sorcery. Was taught thousands of spells by Agatha Harkness)
• Resistance to:
  • Deconstruction & Matter Manipulation (At least Molecular, likely Atomic. Was entirely unaffected by being eaten by an Endling, which can devour and as a result destroy the atoms and molecules of reality, as well as atomizing and shredding Molecule Man with the help of The Griever At The End of All Things (scans in second link are from Fantastic Four (Vol. 6) Issues 2-3), with existence being deconstructed as a result)

The first scans are ok but I question the resistance, because she hasn't been deconstructed by the Griever first and nothing (here) implies the Endlings can do it by themselves (also she seems to be protecting herself with a forcefield)

• • • Space-Time Manipulation (As mentioned above, was unaffected by being eaten by an Endling, which can devour an entire pocket reality, with pocket realities being described in another run as being made solely of time and space)

Do we have any idea how the endlings ate the pocket reality?
How much time did they take?
It's all quite vague tbh.

• Causality Manipulation/History Erasure (Doctor Strange states that when Wanda uses her powers, her actions become a touchstone for reality and act in eternal opposition to their own erasure, making it impossible to erase herself—as in her actions—from her own history), from Empyre: X-Men Vol. 1 #1; 2020
• Probability Manipulation (1 Layer. Her probability alteration powers, both passive and active, are equal to the macro-scale probability manipulation fields of a Celestial Extermination Drone, when just being inside the drone's shifting web of probability fields used to defend itself would have caused a Domino whose luck was amplified by Scarlet Witch to certainly die despite Domino's own resistance to the outside probability field the drone was emitting, with Scarlet Witch being unaffected by blocking the macro-scale probability fields of the drone which as its offensive weapons should be superior in potency to its internal defense systems [and she implied that she would have been able to go in without suffering the negative probability effects Domino did were it not for her probability fields causing a chain reaction with the drone's probability fields]. She was also able to get close to the drone without its external probability fields killing her due to her supernatural luck, just like Domino)

These are ok but they need to be rephrased to be more concise and clear.

• Radiation Manipulation (Was unaffected by Hexfinder trying to kill her with Radon)
• Poison Manipulation (Was unaffected by Hexfinder attacking her with poisonous ice, despite Hexfinder being confident it would kill her)

The first resistance is fine, I'm dubious on the second because Wanda was knocked down and Hexfinder was interrupted by the quake, and her statement doesn't imply instant death.

• Possession (Fights off Moridun's possession of her soul and expels him)
• Dream Manipulation (Fought and defeated the dream demon Livequeen in the Dreamscape, a mental realm containing the dreams of others. Broke free of Nightmare's dream control)

The first resistance is fine but I'm dubious on the second; the first scan doesn't seem to imply any resistance, she was being affected by Livequeen and just outskilled her at the end, and the second shows her coming to her senses because Nightmare talks too much and spoiled the trick.

• Existence Erasure (While she was destroyed the first time she was hit with one of the Griever's "ending" blasts, which Word of God confirmed erase their targets from existence entirely, she was able to easily withstand one of the Griever's same blasts in their rematch after she was revived)
  • Soul Erasure & Type 4 Immortality Negation (The WoG statement states that those blasted by the Griever do not come back on any plane after death, yet Scarlet Witch's soul refused to be "undone" by the Griever which allowed the Never Queen to guide her soul to the Land of the Dead)
  • Note: The person in the WoG scan asking about this also asked if it was conceptual/idea erasure, but while Steve Orlando (writer of the 2024 Scarlet Witch comics) seems to say yes, this part just...doesn't fit with what we see in the comic and he doesn't even really mention it in his description of the Griever's "ending" ability, so that's not usable)
    • However, Scarlet Witch being EE'd by the Griever's blast the first time is supported by both the Never Queen and the Griever herself stating that the Scarlet Witch was "undone" by the blast.
• Mind Manipulation (Resisted the mind control of The Corrupter, which was magical in nature and was powerful enough to take over an entire town. Resists the Serpent Crown's mind control and holds her own in a telepathic battle against Set himself, from Marvel Two-In-One #66. Earlier, she also resisted the Serpent Crown's mental manipulations, from The Avengers #148)
  • Memory Manipulation (Shrugged off the hypnotism of Maynard Tibolt, a master hypnotist, and no-sold his attempts to make her forget his subsequent hypnotic mesmerisms. Quickly shrugged off contact with the Eliminator's shell that was covered Glawackus-Oil, which causes obliviation from mere contact, and was in contact with the Eliminator's shell earlier in the fight without being affected)
  • Electricity Manipulation (Powered through the Enchantress's electric attack before resisting her mental assault for a period of time, from The Avengers #38)

These are fine but I have doubts regarding the last two. Resisting the Ringmaster's fine, but in the second other scans the Eliminator seems to be imply oblivation comes overtime and the process was quickly interrupted.
I don't see her resisting the electricity, to be honest, at most it's stamina because she endured long enough to cast a spell in the nick of time, she looked either affected or not showing any special resistance.

• Fear Manipulation & Illusion Creation (Overcame and saw through all of Lore's illusions and "demons born from [Scarlet Witch's] own dread" within the Land of the Dead, despite them representing Wanda's traumas and fears. Withstood and powered through the Witches' Road's manifestations of all the fears and shames of her past, even when said manifestations threatened to fatally envelop her)
• Gravity Manipulation & Physics Manipulation (Her and her magic are not bound by physics, allowing her to be unaffected by Graviton's powers)

These are fine

• Durability Negation, Spatial Manipulation, & Reality Warping (Was unharmed by contact with the Edge of Reality, which can sever anything, even the fabric of reality as well as portals, from Scarlet Witch (2023) #4)
  • This only applies to when she is the Living Darkhold and taps into the power of the Darkhold within herself, since as the scan above shows her base form had to halt the blade to keep it from harming her

I'm questing this thoroughly, even in Darkhold form, because the blade was used to block and claws and then shove her aside, she didn't resist being slashed, which seems to be what enacts the magic properties the sword.

• The powers of the Universal Phoenix Force (Her chaos magic makes her resistant to the powers of the Phoenix Force and its hosts)

It seems way too much to hinge only on a guidebook scan.

• Unconventional Resistance to Biological/Electricity Manipulation: She does not have electricity running through her brain and synapses like a normal person, but raw chaos
• Power Nullification & Causality Manipulation (Her powers over reality cannot be erased nor can they be removed from history due to them giving Wanda her nature as a touchstone of reality, from Empyre: X-Men Vol. 1 #1; 2020)

It's ok but you'ce already listed the second ones a few lines here above.

• • Limited/Unconventional Resistance to Power Nullification (An anti-mnemonic dart that made Scarlet Witch unable to use magic spells didn't affect her darkhold powers (though she decided not to use them due to the risk) or her manipulation of the probability field, which she used to destroy the dart. Despite Hexfinder using Low Mysterium to dull Scarlet Witch's magic powers (and it being shown to dispel her Earth magic), she was still capable of using Chaos Magic, though it was indicated to be weakened)

I'm unsure about these, because unleashing the Darkhold may just be something not related to memory, since the dart, being anti-mnemonic, was seemingly preventing her from remebering the exact words for the spells.
Also, the Low Mysterium seems to work just fine, Hexfinder said it would have dulled her spells, and so it did, not nullify them.

• Additions to her Intelligence section (Is fluent in Italian, French, German, and Greek.

WHY'S ITALIAN THE ONLY LANGUAGE AUTOMATICALLY TRANSLATED AND NOT OUTRIGHT WRITTEN THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!!!

• Is a skilled cook and horse rider, having learned to ride a horse since childhood. Trained with Captain America for years to improve her agility, and was trained by the Avengers in melee combat, as well as U.S. Agent and a Skrull duplicate of Mockingbird, and is also capable of skillful underwater melee combat. Has shown herself to be a skilled squadron leader. Is one of Earth's greatest magicians, having been taught thousands of spells by Agatha Harkness and being considered a candidate for Sorcerer Supreme, along with being a teacher of magic at Strange Academy)
• Additional feat for Stamina (Fought off an entire army of armored skeleton warriors for a prolonged period of time with nothing but her fists without showing signs of exhaustion)

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All of this is fine.

 

[Eseseso]

Before I respond to most of what Saman said, I'll say that I will change Wanda's physical rating to 8-C in the OP as soon as I get a chance later today since it does seem to be more consistent

 

[Entity]

WHY'S ITALIAN THE ONLY LANGUAGE AUTOMATICALLY TRANSLATED AND NOT OUTRIGHT WRITTEN THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!!!

Italian is too barbaric to be shown

 

[Eseseso]

As I've done with other huge threads, I'll check the op first and splitting it in multiple posts (this thread's reeeeaaally too big, man), and then check the comments that followed:

I figured it was better to make one giant thread than drag staff to multiple different threads.

Also in the OP I changed SW's proposed physicality to 8-C

The first scans are ok but I question the resistance, because she hasn't been deconstructed by the Griever first and nothing (here) implies the Endlings can do it by themselves (also she seems to be protecting herself with a forcefield)

I didn't see her put up a forcefield before being eaten

The first resistance is fine, I'm dubious on the second because Wanda was knocked down and Hexfinder was interrupted by the quake, and her statement doesn't imply instant death.

Hexfinder seemed rather confident it'd kill Wanda, and regardless the poison ice didn't do anything to her

The first resistance is fine but I'm dubious on the second; the first scan doesn't seem to imply any resistance, she was being affected by Livequeen and just outskilled her at the end, and the second shows her coming to her senses because Nightmare talks too much and spoiled the trick.

The only two who broke out of Nightmare's dream trap on their own were her and Thor

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I'm questing this thoroughly, even in Darkhold form, because the blade was used to block and claws and then shove her aside, she didn't resist being slashed, which seems to be what enacts the magic properties the sword.

She didn't seem to be slashed, just pushed back

It seems way too much to hinge only on a guidebook scan.


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For the Phoenix stuff, I remember her powers being a direct counter to the Phoenix powers in the storyline with the Phoenix Five, like how she could negate the durability of the phoenix five to the point where her basic abilities could make them feel pain

 

[SamanPatou]

I didn't see her put up a forcefield before being eaten

Of course not, because it's meant to create tension.
Anyway, the first thing I'm contesting is the Endlings' ability to actually deconstruct and everything, since they are shown to be able to eat what the Griever feeds them and said to "eat worlds", but we don't know how, if there's a timeframe (like digestion) or anything, and even if it may not be immediate.
So, I don't think being gobbled up would, if anything, destroy you immdiately (even assuming they can and don't rely on the Griever)

Hexfinder seemed rather confident it'd kill Wanda, and regardless the poison ice didn't do anything to her

She was clearly hurt and knocked down, though.
Again, it's not a one-hit-kill move and the fight was cut short just when Hexfinder was issuing her detah threats.

The only two who broke out of Nightmare's dream trap on their own were her and Thor

Then I require more context, because here Nightmare just messes up his own trap, accidentally freeing Wanda from the charm.

She didn't seem to be slashed, just pushed back

Exactly, it seems that the duraneg properties of the sword rely on slashing, not mere contact. Here the sword was used as a shield and then to push Wanda away, not to try and cut her.

For the Phoenix stuff, I remember her powers being a direct counter to the Phoenix powers in the storyline with the Phoenix Five, like how she could negate the durability of the phoenix five to the point where her basic abilities could make them feel pain

Then we should rely on those, evidence provided, and scrutinize what actually happens.

 

[Eseseso]

As I've done with other huge threads, I'll check the op first and splitting it in multiple posts (this thread's reeeeaaally too big, man), and then check the comments that followed:


I've never been a fan of High 8-C Wanda and I believe these feats would allow her to sit in a more plausible 8-C tier.
Her scuffle with Black Cat wasn't anything special, ap-wise tbh, and doesn't surpass the criteria I believe are necessary to warrant full scaling.
That said, unless she was somehow physically empowered during the last battle with Scythia, their fight's enough for scaling.
I say 8-C because her KO'ing demon US Agent warrants it and Scythia's two feats (the shop and the wall) most likely fall within that tier.
I would remove the "holding back" bit, as she seems to be referring to her magic powers, rather than physical strength (she specifically threatens her exposed chin and talks about vaporizing her).
Also, the first sentence needs a totally rewriting to make it more concise and less confusing, I may give a hand later.

Changed OP to 8-C

I'm not sure I'm seeing multiple Black Winters being destroyed here and isn't she using the Phoenix Force?

Who, Wanda? No.

Also, should she have another key for the Darkhold?

Nah, just link to the part of the magic page with Darkhold powers. A separate tabber would work

Cringe word-salad but I guess it works. Maybe it warrants type 4 as well? I'm not sure.

Nah, nothing puts her in a separate flow of time

I feel like I'm missing a ton of context but we can't reasonably upload whole comics, so I'm trusting this is indeed her soul-self. This would work as Fissionism as well but regeneration works.

It was, her body had been erased by the Griever and she was in the Land of the Dead

 

[Eseseso]

Bump

 

[Eseseso]

Bump

 

[AsterReal]

Status Effect Inducement (Blinded Scarlet Witch, while also turning her into a scrying sphere for Nyx to look through)

I was rereading it and realized this. It should just be Perception Manipulation, if I remember correctly. Nyx not only blinded Wanda, she also caused her to only be able to see Nyx herself, and the fragments of the night.

 

[Eseseso]

I was rereading it and realized this. It should just be Perception Manipulation, if I remember correctly. Nyx not only blinded Wanda, she also caused her to only be able to see Nyx herself, and the fragments of the night.

This makes sense, I'll change it in the OP once I regain access to my laptop

 

[SamanPatou]

Who, Wanda? No.

Alright, I had read the panels wrong.

Nah, just link to the part of the magic page with Darkhold powers. A separate tabber would work

But it's a different status of her persona, considering she has access to new powers and it's a hefty change overall.
Both for indexing and versus purposes, I believe it'd be better to have separate keys, even if stats and most of the P&A remain unchanged.

Nah, nothing puts her in a separate flow of time

Kk

It was, her body had been erased by the Griever and she was in the Land of the Dead

Gotcha.

I'll comment on the rest whenever I've got enough time.

 

[Eseseso]

But it's a different status of her persona, considering she has access to new powers and it's a hefty change overall.
Both for indexing and versus purposes, I believe it'd be better to have separate keys, even if stats and most of the P&A remain unchanged.

Someone's already working on splitting her classic and modern versions IIRC. But for now would a separate P&A tabber or something like that work?

Gotcha.

Lowkey reminds me of the Voltaire song "Land of the Dead", absolute bopper.

And don't worry she doesn't get any mid-godly or anything like that since it was only her soul, as her body had been wiped by the Griever

I'll comment on the rest whenever I've got enough time.

Ok, and I think there's some stuff of yours I didn't reply to yet but I will in a few days once I regain laptop access

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I agree with Ant regarding Storm scaling to Wolverine, but everything else seems fine.

 

[Eseseso]

I agree with Ant regarding Storm scaling to Wolverine, but everything else seems fine.

I removed the 8-C stuff from Storm's part of the OP.

Thank you for responding

 

[Eseseso]

I agree with Ant regarding Storm scaling to Wolverine, but everything else seems fine.

What about adding this to the OP:

Also, would you mind me adding this to the Scarlet Witch section of the OP:

(Scarlet Witch's soul contains the True Darkhold, containing countless nightmarish realms embodying the darkest stories of everybody that ever lived or will live, with its own separate flow of time and space. Every single layer of the True Darkhold's realm within Wanda's soul has at least a lifetime of time and was/is as large as a person could explore in that lifetime)

Further Type 1 Purification (Removed a mythical infection from a town using a spell)

Further Weapon Creation (Can create spears of energy)

Further Portal Creation & BFR (Done here with a snap of her fingers)

Also, I'd like to add this as another justification for Gods having magic:

("Pacts between mortals and gods are considered magic" Strange Academy: Moon Knight Vol 1 1)

 

[Eseseso]

I agree with Ant regarding Storm scaling to Wolverine, but everything else seems fine.

What about adding this to the OP:

Just want to add the above stuff to the OP but not before getting your thoughts

 

[SamanPatou]

Someone's already working on splitting her classic and modern versions IIRC. But for now would a separate P&A tabber or something like that work?

I guess it would, for the time being.

Ok, and I think there's some stuff of yours I didn't reply to yet but I will in a few days once I regain laptop access

Ok, take your time; I'll wait to end our Scarlet Witch conversation before moving on to comment on the rest.

 

[Eseseso]

I guess it would, for the time being.

Great.

Ok, take your time; I'll wait to end our Scarlet Witch conversation before moving on to comment on the rest.

Thanks.

Btw, what do you think about this:

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Also, would you mind me adding this to the Scarlet Witch section of the OP:

(Scarlet Witch's soul contains the True Darkhold, containing countless nightmarish realms embodying the darkest stories of everybody that ever lived or will live, with its own separate flow of time and space. Every single layer of the True Darkhold's realm within Wanda's soul has at least a lifetime of time and was/is as large as a person could explore in that lifetime)

Further Type 1 Purification (Removed a mythical infection from a town using a spell)

Further Weapon Creation (Can create spears of energy)

Further Portal Creation & BFR (Done here with a snap of her fingers)

Also, I'd like to add this as another justification for Gods having magic:

("Pacts between mortals and gods are considered magic" Strange Academy: Moon Knight Vol 1 1)

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Another scan for Type 4 Acausality and Type 1 Beyond-Dimensional Existence (As the host of the Phoenix Force, exists outside of time and space)

I ordinarily don't get anywhere close to Marvel or DC CRT's, but this caught my attention and peeked my interest. I was not aware that existing outside time and space granted BDE type 1, I was under the impression it only granted type 9 immortality. Has this always been the case or did something new change regarding it's standards recently?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Just want to add the above stuff to the OP but not before getting your thoughts

It's fine

 

[Eseseso]

I ordinarily don't get anywhere close to Marvel or DC CRT's, but this caught my attention and peeked my interest. I was not aware that existing outside time and space granted BDE type 1, I was under the impression it only granted type 9 immortality. Has this always been the case or did something new change regarding it's standards recently?

BDE 1 is being outside space and time (doesn't grant much outside of immunity to space-time hax and type 4 acausality), type 9 immortality is when your true self is on another plane of existence. You can have both, but they're not the same.

 

[SamanPatou]

Btw, what do you think about this:

All seems fine, but I don't think we can get anything out of the first one.
Cool metaphysical shenanigans, but until further evidence that she can do anything with it, such as drawing power or gaining new abilities, we cannot infer much.
Maybe it can stay as "Pocket Reality Manipulation" disguised as "physiology" or "pseudo", but as of now it's just "a thing".

 

[Eseseso]

All seems fine, but I don't think we can get anything out of the first one.
Cool metaphysical shenanigans, but until further evidence that she can do anything with it, such as drawing power or gaining new abilities, we cannot infer much.
Maybe it can stay as "Pocket Reality Manipulation" disguised as "physiology" or "pseudo", but as of now it's just "a thing".

I couldn't really find a power for it for the reasons you mentioned, I just think it's worth noting on the profile.

It hasn't really been shown to do anything other than contain Chthon until her death, and Lore (an monstrously evil alternate version of Wanda) almost destroyed her soul regardless. I mean she is a top necromancer and Wanda had just died but still.

(I'm also lowkey pissed at Marvel for waiting right until I finished a massive SW CRT to announce that she'd be the new Sorceress Supreme)

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

BDE 1 is being outside space and time (doesn't grant much outside of immunity to space-time hax and type 4 acausality), type 9 immortality is when your true self is on another plane of existence. You can have both, but they're not the same.

Yeah, you're right, but I was under the impression that just existing outside of space and time wasn't adequate proof to qualify for the ability. Good to know though.

 

[Eseseso]

Now that I'm back I'll try responding to any of Saman's points I missed later today

 

[Eseseso]

I've never been a fan of High 8-C Wanda and I believe these feats would allow her to sit in a more plausible 8-C tier.
Her scuffle with Black Cat wasn't anything special, ap-wise tbh, and doesn't surpass the criteria I believe are necessary to warrant full scaling.
That said, unless she was somehow physically empowered during the last battle with Scythia, their fight's enough for scaling.
I say 8-C because her KO'ing demon US Agent warrants it and Scythia's two feats (the shop and the wall) most likely fall within that tier.
I would remove the "holding back" bit, as she seems to be referring to her magic powers, rather than physical strength (she specifically threatens her exposed chin and talks about vaporizing her).
Also, the first sentence needs a totally rewriting to make it more concise and less confusing, I may give a hand later.

I changed her tier in the OP to 8-C

That would still be Type 3, because she still needs to put herself together in order to survive. Also, I'm questioning whether this is actual bisection or weird magical shenanigans, either because of the graphics (though they probably had to censor the gore) or the context; I gave a quick look at the issue but I couldn't quite tell.

I checked for that too, nothing indicated it being artificial, it was probably censorship.

I will note that she seems to qualify for type 2 via just surviving bisection, but if it has to go I won't be upset

I feel like I'm missing a ton of context but we can't reasonably upload whole comics, so I'm trusting this is indeed her soul-self. This would work as Fissionism as well but regeneration works.

Fissionism + Regen both for the soul works

Swap it to Creation, our criteria for Space Survival require the character to be unassisted.

Ok.

All of this seems ok, but I'm questioning the Wizard's scan, just because I don't see references to "hope" or the hornet dimension.

She knocks the hope out of him in the previous scan leading to him having a breakdown.

I'd make the pocket reality creation a "possibly", since nothing says she personally vowed it.

Fair

I think forcefield creation fits better than sealing.

Wiki is weird with what counts as sealing

I automatically reject everything supported only by guidebooks so I'll pass on this one (I know the following links are some evidences, I'm just rejecting the guidebook scans being a primary source)


These are fine


As above, I don't like these being used as primary sources before the comic scans themselves.


I'd shove this one under probability manipulation, the usage of the word "law" makes it only redundant, considering that at the ends she's just using the same power.

Neutral

Is this some temporary power up she has or not? Not knowing the context, the characters' statements make me doubt.

Not that I know of, she was just going through a...phase IIRC. I'll have to double check

All of this is fine but I'd remove th negation, as the mind control wore off as an effect of the disappearance of Moonglow's magic.

Neutral

All looks fine but I must point out that thw Clutch Dimension is said to be the inverse of pure concussive force.


This still looks like Dimensional Travel, she's entering another realm, not affecting it.

Ok

That's all fine but I'd call the last one Resistance to Information Analysis/ESP, since the sensors are unable to scan her powers, not influenced into not working.

While I'd honestly prefer this, it seems like her powers render Tony's sensors unable to work or scan anything.

All's fine but the Chton construct looks more type 0.

Ok

All's fine but I believe the last one could be summarized in Necromancy Negation to avoid redundancy with too many sub-abilities that don't really matter when added besideds the main identity of the ability.


This is fine but maybe the first's limited to her possible Darkhold-related key?


All fine but I'm not sold on Dura Neg, it could be a telekinetic or magic blast, given the kinetic lines and his being manhandled away.

I'd put this under Biological Manipulation as well, the limbs aren't really exploding.

Ok

Is this her physical form or her astral projection? She looks like a ghost here. Also, the spell fits well under Bio Manip as well.


All's fine but I wouldn't count the last one as an additional limb, as it's not part of her or a construct's body.


The first powers are fine but the last one seems to be limited, as the narrator (or another character?) seems to imply this is possible only because they're in their own realm. Same applies to the Fate and Time Manipulation proposals down here.


So far all's fine but the last one isn't neither of those powers, since she's is neither making her physical directly (thus negating) nor touching her while intangible (thus NPI). I would call it Spatial Manipulation, since she's making so they exist on the same plane of reality.

Makes sense

All's fine, but the last resembles more a mundane forcefield.


All's fine but I'd separate Deconstruction and Gravity.

Fair, a lot of overlap occurs as you likely noticed

Small note, I'd put all the various nullifications shown thus far (and maybe later if there are any) under a single "Power Nullification" and maybe write the various abilities being nullified in bolded, as in "Power Nullification. (Necromancy XXXX Probability: XXX etc..)"

Good idea

Still not sealing to me, these are magical forcefields, not magical locks, prisons, locking spells etc..

The wiki's rules for sealing are kinda weird, ngl

The first scans are ok but I question the resistance, because she hasn't been deconstructed by the Griever first and nothing (here) implies the Endlings can do it by themselves (also she seems to be protecting herself with a forcefield)

The Endlings in the scans used for deconstruction were also literally stated to be deconstructing existence, and as I mentioned before I don't see a forcefield

Do we have any idea how the endlings ate the pocket reality?
How much time did they take?
It's all quite vague tbh.

I was more so indicating how they could warp space-time by affecting a pocket reality, yet SW survived it

These are ok but they need to be rephrased to be more concise and clear.


The first resistance is fine, I'm dubious on the second because Wanda was knocked down and Hexfinder was interrupted by the quake, and her statement doesn't imply instant death.


The first resistance is fine but I'm dubious on the second; the first scan doesn't seem to imply any resistance, she was being affected by Livequeen and just outskilled her at the end, and the second shows her coming to her senses because Nightmare talks too much and spoiled the trick.

She and Thor were the only 2 to resist the dream stuff, and in Livequeen she won a dream battle against her in a dream dimension, indicating a powerful capability to resist dream attacks

These are fine but I have doubts regarding the last two. Resisting the Ringmaster's fine, but in the second other scans the Eliminator seems to be imply oblivation comes overtime and the process was quickly interrupted.

The Eliminator's mind fuckery still was useless against her when he thought it would instantly work, but I see what you're getting at

I don't see her resisting the electricity, to be honest, at most it's stamina because she endured long enough to cast a spell in the nick of time, she looked either affected or not showing any special resistance.

She at least seems to power through the electric attack enough to counter, though I see where you're coming from

I'm questing this thoroughly, even in Darkhold form, because the blade was used to block and claws and then shove her aside, she didn't resist being slashed, which seems to be what enacts the magic properties the sword.

The Griever pushed her back with the sword yet her Darkhold form wasn't cut, just repelled

I'm unsure about these, because unleashing the Darkhold may just be something not related to memory, since the dart, being anti-mnemonic, was seemingly preventing her from remebering the exact words for the spells.

I just figured that it seems to not be affected by something nullifying her standard abilities

Also, the Low Mysterium seems to work just fine, Hexfinder said it would have dulled her spells, and so it did, not nullify them.

Fair