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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread
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WHAT THE HELL? I TOUGHT THAT WAS CALEUS AFTER GETTING GAZED BY IX
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We even tried to scale sunday to eventually 1-B, let's get welt to 1-B with in another possibility. I will support this
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i might have been tracked by hoyo writers. theres jo way i wrote OUT OF JOKE that hi3 welt
is > acheron=zephyro (cuz pf
acheron statement) and they made this happen
is > acheron=zephyro (cuz pf
acheron statement) and they made this happen
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I hope welt get to use his Sigularity Rebuild again T - T
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Its funny how according to elio welt isnt below zephyro. HES EQUAL it literally says “black hole and white he will DEVOUR each other” their deats can affect whole cosmos
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Alright guys I’m gonna prepare the 1-b CRT
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Tbh, Welt 1-B has more ground than Sunday 1-B Aeon bs xD
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I guess this also puts an end to the whole thing of some people arguing Emanators are stronger than (most) HI3 Herrschers cause if a weakened (due to lack of Honkai Energy) Welt is comparable to one of the strongest emanators in the story, that means there are so many people from HI3 that would probably mid to no diff to outright stomp Zephyro lmao.
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I can name a few outside top 5
AHR Kevin, HoO Elysia, Palatinus Durandal, False God Otto, hell since prime welt is that low in hi3 i can see Parvati genes amped Siegfried with Shamash do the job
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Can someone please explain to me why this is an eventually 1-b instead of a flat out 1-b scaling
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Because it hasn't happened yet. And we don't know if Welt will somehow gain anything within the timeframe before this event.
What we only have is the fact that this event will happen.
You could also separate it as a separate Key, like Future Welt but that would require a note explaining why this key is vague and lacks information other that this feat
different frmo Sunday where it would happen but didn't and it has already passed
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It not happening yet doesnt matter pretty sure.
For example, Reinhard's moon + feat comes from a future that doesnt even exist. It never happened
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Reinhard van Astrea (ラインハルト・ヴァン・アストレア, Rainharuto van Asutorea?) is the current Sword Saint (剣聖, Kensei?) and a member of the Lugunican Royal Guard, currently acting as Felt's knight, supporting her in her bid to become the 42nd king of the Dragon Kingdom of Lugunica. He is not only the...
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The feat shown of welt is also backed by the astral express still glazing welt till 3.6 and acheron saying his blackhole is more dangerous than naught
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Still, we don't know what resources and stuff they will gain when they actually embark on that journey.
If eventually cannot work, possibly can work as per the script, at least gets support evidence.
We only know that it will happen, not how it will play out. This vagueness is enough for possibly.
Likely can be argued
If eventually cannot work, possibly can work as per the script, at least gets support evidence.
We only know that it will happen, not how it will play out. This vagueness is enough for possibly.
Likely can be argued
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Just so ya’ll know, if you look closely, the animation shows Zephyro’s white hole slowly overtaking Welt’s black hole (as in, absorbing it). Not sure if this affects the 1-B rating but I heavily doubt that they’re “equal”. Welt just seems like a catalyst whereas Zephyro is the main guy ending everything, which honestly makes more sense. But again, not sure if this specifically affects 1-B for Welt; that might still be fine.
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The script says it will devour each other.
Welt being shown losing is because the resulting effect would still result in their defeat regardless
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Not saying Welt’s black hole won’t devour anything, I’m just saying that Zephyro is implied to be the “greater” devourer.
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But like
We also get Irontomb Herta
And Trailblazer achieving Finality through remembrance (Actually insane)
We also get Irontomb Herta
And Trailblazer achieving Finality through remembrance (Actually insane)
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I mean yeah we don't know if Zephyro's white hole is all he has
But we do know Welt can indeed match one of Zephyro's powerful weapon but still eventually lose
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Still can’t believe ya’ll are comparing the GOAT to Welt. Just wait till he puts belt to ass on Acheron too and then we’ll talk
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well elio script never lies, meaning “devour each other” is more likely than zephyro beating welt since this also means they wanna hype zephy as the strongest LR (which he is)
and if he does win he is NOT coming out unharmed
and if he does win he is NOT coming out unharmed
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Nah you're grasping at empty straws.
The Scripts literally say the cosmos will be ruptured so even though it will eventually lead to to their defeat
that also means the universe will also be destroyed.
When Kafka is explaining how scripts would end
it would mean everything would end
So Herta Irontomb End
Celanova and Lightninglord merging with godslayer end
White Hole and Black Hole end (which also implies Zephyro would also die alongside the cosmos and everyone else)
and Remembrance finality where everything will br frozen
Possibility A is the only path forward where the cosmos does not end. That is why Blade said. "If there is a next stop"
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Yeah, even if we were to take it as Zephyro ultimately winning the fight instead of it ending in a mutual destruction thing which is what the Script's words imply is what would happen, that doesn't change the fact that Welt would've fought with him comparably enough to the point their fight would end up resulting in the "rupture of the cosmos".
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Debate aside ill leave this scenario when we reach the planet since the trailer basically confirms the world we will visit too
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We will, but the script will be different
Since this what-if scenario is if we went there instead of Amphoreus first
So those end-of-script will not happen anymore.
At best, Lushaka will no longer have to worry about Irontomb ascent, so I guess that will be peaceful until we leave
And if the Xianzhou actually rallied in Amphoreus, that might change how it will play out with Celenova, and the 8th Lord Ravager likely not happening since their focus shifted instead of losing their trailblaze
Zephyro in the glass belt. im not sure if any events in Amphoreus affects his apperance in that planet but likely it will
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I don’t see how mutual destruction really has anything to do with it. We just know that Welt’s interaction with Zephyro propagates the “rupture of the cosmos”.
I’m talking about a fight here, not what happens to the universe—that’s sort of irrelevant to the scaling.
Also, “devour each other” can literally be an allegory for basically anything. It certainly—at least to me—doesn’t seem to be talking about 1-to-1 boxing.
I’m talking about a fight here, not what happens to the universe—that’s sort of irrelevant to the scaling.
Also, “devour each other” can literally be an allegory for basically anything. It certainly—at least to me—doesn’t seem to be talking about 1-to-1 boxing.
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Likely is infinitely better than eventually rating yeah. I personally think it qualifies for outright rating due to other existing evidence but that also works way better than the eventually proposal
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It is relevant though.
Since it specifically said in the Script.
AT THE END OF THE SCRIPT White Hole and Black Hole devour each other, rupturing the cosmos. there is no victor or anything it is mutual destruction and the end of the script
nothing more after that.
sure it could be Zephyro is strong but that doesn't meant Welt last gambit wouldn't work when the script said it resulted into that
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Check Zephyro's losses real quick
Zephyro
Zephyro is a Lord Ravager of the Antimatter Legion and an Emanator of Nanook, the Aeon of Destruction. Tier: 3-B, 1-B with Path of Destruction Name: Zephyro Titles: Scorching Flare, Savage White Flame Origin: Honkai: Star Rail Gender: Male Age: Far over 1,296 years old (Zephyro ignited the sun...
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Why are you attributing a specific interaction as if it’s some ability that Welt can use lol? This whole thing is quite literally enabled specifically by Zephyro. It’s just some interaction that happens but it says nothing about their powerlevel.
Like, the “flash of light” in the animation signifying the end literally happens AFTER Zephyro fully absorbs Welt’s black hole. Is this not an indicator to strength? Am I missing something?
VSBW is a dictatorship run for glazing IX. But I know my GOAT will beat all the slander. The way he’s glazed will have you thinking he’s the REAL Nanook.
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Doesn't surpass the glazing that the Astral Express have been giving Welt for 3 years straight or the glazing Welt gives to Pom-Pom
Pom-Pom (Honkai: Star Rail)
Pom-Pom is the conductor of the Astral Express. It is unknown where Pom-Pom came from but they suddenly appeared at some point on the Astral Express one day after Himeko repaired it. Tier: 3-B, higher with the Astral Express Name: Pom-Pom Titles: Ultimate_Conductor Origin: Honkai: Star Rail...
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I've already told you many times yes welt can be weaker but that doesn't mean he hasn't achieved what was basically said at the end.
regardless it resulted to the end of the cosmos via rupture.
it doesn't matter who won or who lost. they all died.
you're still pushing Zephyro is stronger but none of that matters.
when both their attack resulted to both of their end regardless of who is stronger
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All ts happened because of fuel 
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tbf. even if they go to any other planet that is not mentioned.
the fact that Irontomb will eventually actualized would still result to finality. you could say the lack of fuel saved the cosmos
the fact that Irontomb will eventually actualized would still result to finality. you could say the lack of fuel saved the cosmos
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This is just ignorance atp. I’m specifically talking about scaling here. Not what happens in a hyperspecific scenario. Welt just simply isn’t as strong here (which you seem to admit as well?)
Never ask a multi-galaxy HSR character if they can destroy anything bigger than a city
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