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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

The thing about Cyrene kit is that it is specifically made to be used in the Remembrance team as other team can't charge her ULT at the same rate as Remembrace team which similar to Phainon and Feixiao but these two are DPS and you can play around with them a bit unlike Cyrene, they also know that making her being able to buff specific characters of a very specific team isn't really something that they can do at least not outright, so they make her being able to buff a certain type of character with a special buff instead, which is Chrysos Heirs in this case, like if you look at what her ULT can do you can clearly see that some of them is clearly dogshit like CC cleanse for Mydei who pretty much can instantly gain CC immune when battle start, a fricking additional fire damage for Physical damage dealer like Phainon that only start to activate after Phainon spend one ULT and also consume his HP for whatever reason also not leaving ULT mean he lost 50% ATK boost aswell, Anaxa is a weird one since it Erudition path buff instead of just Anaxa but it work so just leave it at that, Aglaea with 70 energy regen when her ULT require 350 while Hysilen get 60 energy while require only 110
And to make all this work as best as it can be, you can't use Robin, Huohuo, Sunday, Bronya, RM, or any sustainer that isn't DHPT or Hyacine, otherwise Cyrene will take even longer to charge her ult that already takes forever to charge
 
its even worse bcs hoyo showcased e6 cyrene gameplay instead of e0 showing us how aware they are of this and the greed running trough their blood is unstoppable, im dissapointed in 3.7 generally i just hope at least the story would be peak cuz we got 3 factions and a starkiller base jumping irontomb
Don't worry, Cyrene will use her Ultimate after 33,550,336 cycles 😃🤡
 
The thing about Cyrene kit is that it is specifically made to be used in the Remembrance team as other team can't charge her ULT at the same rate as Remembrace team which similar to Phainon and Feixiao but these two are DPS and you can play around with them a bit unlike Cyrene, they also know that making her being able to buff specific characters of a very specific team isn't really something that they can do at least not outright, so they make her being able to buff a certain type of character with a special buff instead, which is Chrysos Heirs in this case, like if you look at what her ULT can do you can clearly see that some of them is clearly dogshit like CC cleanse for Mydei who pretty much can instantly gain CC immune when battle start, a fricking additional fire damage for Physical damage dealer like Phainon that only start to activate after Phainon spend one ULT and also consume his HP for whatever reason also not leaving ULT mean he lost 50% ATK boost aswell, Anaxa is a weird one since it Erudition path buff instead of just Anaxa but it work so just leave it at that, Aglaea with 70 energy regen when her ULT require 350 while Hysilen get 60 energy while require only 110
And to make all this work as best as it can be, you can't use Robin, Huohuo, Sunday, Bronya, RM, or any sustainer that isn't DHPT or Hyacine, otherwise Cyrene will take even longer to charge her ult that already takes forever to charge
outside of Team Casto and in E0, he is an anti-cycle character
Don't worry, Cyrene will use her Ultimate after 33,550,336 cycles 😃🤡
I would have bet on the number of Coreflames Khaslana has at the end of 3.4 😆

I really don't know at all what they tried to do with Cyrene, the character is sloppy but very compensated by her new design (they only made her taller, with long hair and big breasts) and pretty animations
 
I have fully quit HSR....
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It's various
From the fanbase getting worse, the meta is so unforgiving, and the HSR team is like that as you can see, not even good story can make me stay for so much longer
It's starting from Feixiao patches and it's gotten more pressuring in my heart
Ngl I don’t know what the meta team is rn. I’ve been using the same 2 teams for the past 3-4 mocs/pfs/apocs
 
Change “pull for meta” to “pull for whoever you like,” and you will have inner peace.
Look, i have pulled almost every char simply bcs i love them, outside robin aventurine and the attempted sunday (got bronya) every char i have is bcs i like them, but if the chars i like are literally and utterly unplayable? there is 0 reason for me to play them
 
Change “pull for meta” to “pull for whoever you like,” and you will have inner peace.
I'm casting characters I like, with the sole exception of Cyrene, with whom I have issues because not only is her E0 kit far from perfect, but I also completely hate her new design, which literally changes her identity. Based on the 4.X leaks, I'm honestly only pull on Hanabi and maybe one other character, but I don't know if she'll actually be playable.
 
I plan to get E2S0 Cyrene and build my Endgame teams like this:

Team 1: Phainon (E0S0, Fall of an Aeon LC), Cery-salad (E1S0, Forever Victual), RMC (E6S5, Victory in a Blink), Cyrene (E2S0, Memory's Curtain Never Falls)

Team 2: The Herta (E0S1), Serval (E2S5, Passkey), Bronya (E0S1), DanTe (E0S0, We Are Wildfire)

Thoughts on these team setups?
 
Look, i have pulled almost every char simply bcs i love them, outside robin aventurine and the attempted sunday (got bronya) every char i have is bcs i like them, but if the chars i like are literally and utterly unplayable? there is 0 reason for me to play them
Honestly, calling Cyrene “unplayable” is a huge exaggeration. There are many showcases proving that Cyrene is better than several characters BIS supports in specific scenarios. Even if you use Cyrene outside those “specific scenarios,” I think she can still help your DPS clear MoC in 1–4 cycles. But you know how people are — if they don’t see 0 cycles, they immediately scream “unplayable.”

I'm casting characters I like, with the sole exception of Cyrene, with whom I have issues because not only is her E0 kit far from perfect, but I also completely hate her new design, which literally changes her identity. Based on the 4.X leaks, I'm honestly only pull on Hanabi and maybe one other character, but I don't know if she'll actually be playable.
Yeah, her design is such a missed opportunity. Just imagine if Cyrene could do a JoJo-style punch on her enemies like Mem does.

Wouldn’t that be super cool? 😂

But HoYo said “no” and made Cyrene a 1:1 copy of Elysia for NOSTALGIA.
 
Honestly, calling Cyrene “unplayable” is a huge exaggeration. There are many showcases proving that Cyrene is better than several characters BIS supports in specific scenarios. Even if you use Cyrene outside those “specific scenarios,” I think she can still help your DPS clear MoC in 1–4 cycles. But you know how people are — if they don’t see 0 cycles, they immediately scream “unplayable.”


Yeah, her design is such a missed opportunity. Just imagine if Cyrene could do a JoJo-style punch on her enemies like Mem does.

Wouldn’t that be super cool? 😂

But HoYo said “no” and made Cyrene a 1:1 copy of Elysia for NOSTALGIA.
shes still heavily reliant on 5 stars to the point if u didnt pull hyacine or cassie ur cyrene is once again useless bcs of extremly hard ult charging rate, thats whats making her unplayable which only e2 solves
 
shes still heavily reliant on 5 stars to the point if u didnt pull hyacine or cassie ur cyrene is once again useless bcs of extremly hard ult charging rate, thats whats making her unplayable which only e2 solves
Her Ultimate charge may take a long time, but that doesn’t mean you need 1 cycle just to activate it. She has some buffs in her kit that aren’t very impactful, but her stronger buffs definitely make up for it.

Even without Hyacine, you can still run DHPT, and Cassie is simply an optional DPS. She works well with other Chrysos Heirs too, just not as optimally as with Cassie.

Once again, if you’re not aiming for 0-cycle clears, she’s really not as “bricked” as people claim. Calling her "useless" is a bit of an exaggeration, since she can still help your DPS clear MoC efficiently.
 
Honestly, calling Cyrene “unplayable” is a huge exaggeration. There are many showcases proving that Cyrene is better than several characters BIS supports in specific scenarios. Even if you use Cyrene outside those “specific scenarios,” I think she can still help your DPS clear MoC in 1–4 cycles. But you know how people are — if they don’t see 0 cycles, they immediately scream “unplayable.”
People are really mistaken about Cyrene, and I'm willing to call her an anti-powercreep character because she's actually an alternative to other options. For example, Sunday will be better in MoC with Phainon because MoCs require a quick fight, but just in case: Zandar 12M HP is a fight that can be considered long, so Cyrene should logically be a better option with Phainon than Sunday. All I'm saying is that she will be more or less effective depending on the content where she's used, and she will generally be superior for long fights.
Yeah, her design is such a missed opportunity. Just imagine if Cyrene could do a JoJo-style punch on her enemies like Mem does.

Wouldn’t that be super cool? 😂

But HoYo said “no” and made Cyrene a 1:1 copy of Elysia for NOSTALGIA.
It would have been funny, but just... copying Elysia is not a good decision, they destroyed the identity that Cyrene had been able to acquire until now, all I see with this design is Elysia and not the character that I have been able to know over the versions
shes still heavily reliant on 5 stars to the point if u didnt pull hyacine or cassie ur cyrene is once again useless bcs of extremly hard ult charging rate, thats whats making her unplayable which only e2 solves
Hysilens' team performs better with Cyrene than with Black Swan and from quite far away, moreover
Wouldn't it be better to group the Astral Express haxs under one category?
 
Genius Society, Xianzhou Alliance, Planet Screwwllum, Herta Space Station (or more), IPC, Galaxy Rangers and Astral Express vs Irontomb
Man i AM giving this guy Multiverse level+ tier and you cant stop me?
If Cyrene carries by Amping express? Hoho tier for her and Irontomb no one can chainscale? imma have a field day writing down his AP justifications
 
Genius Society, Xianzhou Alliance, Planet Screwwllum, Herta Space Station (or more), IPC, Galaxy Rangers and Astral Express vs Irontomb
Man i AM giving this guy Multiverse level+ tier and you cant stop me?
If Cyrene carries by Amping express? Hoho tier for her and Irontomb no one can chainscale? imma have a field day writing down his AP justifications
Irontomb is gonna be the Kaidou of HSR with this alliance from several factions in order to take it down I swear 🫨
 
They really do next level of operation just to kill one lord ravager irontomb that need tons of fleets and multiple factions, and yet irontomb still clear the entire fleets in single strike.

meanwhile in otherhand other a lord ravager zulo literally died by a bugs🥀
 
They really do next level of operation just to kill one lord ravager irontomb that need tons of fleets and multiple factions, and yet irontomb still clear the entire fleets in single strike.

meanwhile in otherhand other a lord ravager zulo literally died by a bugs🥀
Irontomb is jumped by several emanators too, i honestly wont mind if hoyo narratively puts him at 1-B, hell Zephyro didnt even go all out at Phainon who at full power damaged nanook, theres genuenly no issue with top tiers emanators that currently include Zephyro Irontomb and Acheron being 1-B while rest can stay tier 3
 
Irontomb is jumped by several emanators too, i honestly wont mind if hoyo narratively puts him at 1-B, hell Zephyro didnt even go all out at Phainon who at full power damaged nanook, theres genuenly no issue with top tiers emanators that currently include Zephyro Irontomb and Acheron being 1-B while rest can stay tier 3
I won't say anything about tiering tbh.

The only thing bugged in my mind about narrative is, where the fck is zephyro when phainon turn into that flame giant, aren't he supposed to be "test" For phainon at warforge, how he suddenly disappeared when that happen.

Though it highly possible for IronTomb to be scaled to full-power Phainon, considering Neikos is being IronTomb's 'core' after merging, and becomes the one who controls the giant body.

Zephyro still scale no matter what they given tier as he narratively still strongest lord ravager.
 
I won't say anything about tiering tbh.

The only thing bugged in my mind about narrative is, where the fck is zephyro when phainon turn into that flame giant, aren't he supposed to be "test" For phainon at warforge, how he suddenly disappeared when that happen.
Assuming entire plan was for Phainon to recieve Nanooks blood as a “Destruction Final Blessing” he probably left as soon as he went all out or when phainon died when performing the feat since he had no reason to finish him off
 
Zephyro for Lord Ravagers at this point is what Mihawk is for swordsmen of One Piece, no matter what, he upscales
Well.... Not really...
As far i can think for mortals outside of aeons divinity, he still below louis fleming (if he was a real person not some myth figure) and dusk leviathan
 
I pull for whom I like and still clears
There is a few random unclearable 1-3 per year but like
200 jades?

Not an issue. If you're complaining about Meta then just bounce back some other time when it lines with your pulling preference.

Toxic fanbase is a valid reason imo. It is kinda getting the genshin scenario
 
The zephyro that Phainon fight is REAL?
depends on how you treat the scene where amphoreus is literally behind them when Phainon is about to go TTGL mod, since even irontomb is capable of leaving amphoreus i see no problem in Phainon doing the same, the inly actual issue is there were no mention of Phainon and Zephyro fighting in the story, only that Phainon faced Destruction directly like 2-3 times and how he harmed Nanook
 
No, not even

Louis is featless even narratively, only its title is known
It's not matter, he still stated to be the most powerful individual in the universe after aeons. But his whole description is lowkey too exaggerated like it was written by enigmata, that's why i kinda believe he is not a real person.

And the other side leviathan are greater threat than emanators, it's the whole reason why qlipoth ascension and build that long wall, purely to prevent them as they're really a threat to the universe. As even their branch descendants alone (lux bane) already in lord ravager level, imagine what full fledge Leviathan could be.
 
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