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They're on PS4/5, Nintendo Switch/2, Steam, and I think XBox One/Series X.
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Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)
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So no English version for mobile, damnit
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So with plans for Tier 0 Root in the future according to what’s been said in this thread, would this technically mean FGO is the strongest gacha game verse? Or is Honkai on its level?
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Honkai (GGZ) is at tier 0 already https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yog-Sothoth_(Guns_Girl_Z)
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Oh so Fate and Honkai are tied
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Sadly.
Honkai has a Tier 0.
Oh, Maniaunavailable already replied to you.
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This is the real reason they had a crossover with Fate haha
Both have Tier 0s (well, “will” for Fate since its still being planned)
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Question, may it be too early for a revamped Ciel profile or one surrounding the Remake?
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I have it on mobile in English want me to link you if my dumbass didn't forget
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Also playing both Extra and CCC on PPSSPP emulator because I don't have a console lol
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Please do
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Found it
I've only played the first battle because I'm waiting on finishing extra and CCC first
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Far too early, yes. As I've said before, leave the profiles of Tsukihime, Mahoyo to me and KnK stuff to me and Toxic both, with the latter being almost done, save for what I need are Aoko and Touko stuff from Extra. Tsukihime is coming dead last, which I, Toxic and Crim, will see to ourselves personally. Feel free to work on whichever Fate sandboxes, though, except for cosmology stuff, which we'll discuss later on.
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disappointing, but welp, guess i'm doing a personal thing then
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I have scans for most of Oberon's hax and feats but unfortunately I can't seem to find the server
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tried running it, didn't work
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Don't link to piracy sites.
I edited the link out
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Is someone already working on a sandbox for ORT, or should I start making my own?
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Sorry for mentioning ORT again, but is he a top 5 contender?
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Erm idk if its another account but wank was scaling nasu to tier 0 before doing the CRT LMAO
I'm going to remember of what Wank said to me before:
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Oh I apologize
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Can anyone tell me if scans like these are acceptable or do I have to use the in-game scans
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I think so yeah
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Oh wowI'm going to remember of what Wank said to me before:
Also I guess you can change your bottom signature soon since Nasuverse will get buffed soon xD
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The Root won't even get past 1-A let alone reaching the Peak of VSB. Thinking that the Nasu meta will go as planned now that Wanker is gone is a grave mistake 
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The Root won't even get past 1-A let alone reaching the Peak of VSB. Thinking that the Nasu meta will go as planned now that Wanker is gone is a grave mistake
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I think scans from Atlas Academy are fine to use, but it's probably preferable to use in-game scans.Can anyone tell me if scans like these are acceptable or do I have to use the in-game scans
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Metaphysician04, whoever that is, was absolutely destroying Marshadow in the comments.
Oh, Metaphysician04 is TheoreticalToxic. Neat.
Edit: Oh yeah, that is the same Wankbreaker/Marshadow, by the way.
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Can a knowlgeable nasuverse supporter mind me yap a minute about musashi? I am new in the forum so please be comprehensive with me whenever I make mistakes
This won't be a super long basically we are just reviewing the full backstory on Musashi that everyone seems (or not?) to have missed, especially regarding her ties to Chaos, her Origin, and the connection to Ryougi Shiki Origin. I'll break it down step by step with evidence from Type-Moon sources.
To grasp the stakes, you need a solid handle on the concept of "Origins." Here's a quick summary:
Origins are the essence of a person, akin to something Platonic—an immutable, absolute concept that exists outside of reality and directly dictates behavior, personality, abilities, and destiny in the material world.
- They are records of your existence in the spiral and the core of your soul. The records themselves are unaffected even by your own thoughts, they exist eternally, even if the world gets destroyed, they remain unchanged forever.
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Basically as summary, an Origin guides every entity's path in the material realm.
Why does this matter? Musashi's Origin is "Void" (or Emptiness/0), in contrast to Kojiro's, which is "Infinity."
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Importantly, this isn't the same as Ryougi Shiki's Origin. Musashi's Void is subordinate to Shiki's, which is the ultimate 「 」 (often represented as " " or the Root's emptiness).
- Because her Origin is Void, Musashi can interact with emptiness or non-existence in the verse even reaching the heights of chaos whose essence lies beyond nonexistence.
https://imgur.com/a/8KnX5Vd
But it goes deeper: Her FGO profile reveals she's not just seeking "Zero" but a higher Void beyond her own Origin—a transcendent emptiness akin to 「 」.
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「 」 is fundamentally inaccessible in the Nasuverse, except for Ryougi Shiki which is its Avatar. No one in Fate is supposed to return to the origin of all things (the Root/Akasha). As Araya Souren explains in Kara no Kyoukai, ascending to the source of creation means achieving enlightenment—a state that rejects life, as it equates to total dissolution into absolute nothingness. This path is blocked by humanity's collective unconscious.
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Philosophically, returning to the Absolute First (the Monad) involves self-simplification and merging into it through complete self-erasure. This mirrors exactly what Musashi does in FGO:
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Note that even her in-game data gets erased, emphasizing the depth—her Spirit Origin no longer exists in the Throne of Heroes, meaning every trace of her information is wiped from the material world.
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For contrast, this is more fundamental than Solomon's erasure via Ars Paulina: He was removed from the Throne, but his data persists in the game, unlike Musashi's total wipe.
Do note that as supporting factor of Musashi reaching the root, Touko explained only the innocence of the void can trace back to the orign; This seems like a directly implication for musashi who has the origin of 0
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In her final confrontation with Chaos:
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Musashi achieves enlightenment by meeting her own Origin. She then merges back with「 」, either returning to absolute nothingness or becoming one with the divine (depending on philosophical interpretations). Technically, this makes Musashi akin to Void Shiki in that moment.
In Conclusion, I speculate Musashi illustrates the complete cycle of souls returning to the Monad in the Nasuverse. This helps distinguish Shiki from other entities. She should be comparable at least to other true magic users by wielding a fragment of Ryougi Shiki's power, intrinsically tied to the Void.
I'd love to hear thoughts more specifically to reach a consensus about that “unknown” in her current profile
TL;DR: Musashi's arc shows a full return to the absolute Void (「 」), linking her to Shiki and highlighting an enlightenment beyond typical feats.
This won't be a super long basically we are just reviewing the full backstory on Musashi that everyone seems (or not?) to have missed, especially regarding her ties to Chaos, her Origin, and the connection to Ryougi Shiki Origin. I'll break it down step by step with evidence from Type-Moon sources.
To grasp the stakes, you need a solid handle on the concept of "Origins." Here's a quick summary:
Origins are the essence of a person, akin to something Platonic—an immutable, absolute concept that exists outside of reality and directly dictates behavior, personality, abilities, and destiny in the material world.
- They are records of your existence in the spiral and the core of your soul. The records themselves are unaffected even by your own thoughts, they exist eternally, even if the world gets destroyed, they remain unchanged forever.
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Basically as summary, an Origin guides every entity's path in the material realm.
Why does this matter? Musashi's Origin is "Void" (or Emptiness/0), in contrast to Kojiro's, which is "Infinity."
)
Importantly, this isn't the same as Ryougi Shiki's Origin. Musashi's Void is subordinate to Shiki's, which is the ultimate 「 」 (often represented as " " or the Root's emptiness).
- Because her Origin is Void, Musashi can interact with emptiness or non-existence in the verse even reaching the heights of chaos whose essence lies beyond nonexistence.
https://imgur.com/a/8KnX5Vd
But it goes deeper: Her FGO profile reveals she's not just seeking "Zero" but a higher Void beyond her own Origin—a transcendent emptiness akin to 「 」.
imgur.com
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「 」 is fundamentally inaccessible in the Nasuverse, except for Ryougi Shiki which is its Avatar. No one in Fate is supposed to return to the origin of all things (the Root/Akasha). As Araya Souren explains in Kara no Kyoukai, ascending to the source of creation means achieving enlightenment—a state that rejects life, as it equates to total dissolution into absolute nothingness. This path is blocked by humanity's collective unconscious.
imgur.com
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imgur.com
Philosophically, returning to the Absolute First (the Monad) involves self-simplification and merging into it through complete self-erasure. This mirrors exactly what Musashi does in FGO:
imgur.com
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Note that even her in-game data gets erased, emphasizing the depth—her Spirit Origin no longer exists in the Throne of Heroes, meaning every trace of her information is wiped from the material world.
imgur.com
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For contrast, this is more fundamental than Solomon's erasure via Ars Paulina: He was removed from the Throne, but his data persists in the game, unlike Musashi's total wipe.
Do note that as supporting factor of Musashi reaching the root, Touko explained only the innocence of the void can trace back to the orign; This seems like a directly implication for musashi who has the origin of 0
imgur.com
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In her final confrontation with Chaos:
imgur.com
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imgur.com
Musashi achieves enlightenment by meeting her own Origin. She then merges back with「 」, either returning to absolute nothingness or becoming one with the divine (depending on philosophical interpretations). Technically, this makes Musashi akin to Void Shiki in that moment.
In Conclusion, I speculate Musashi illustrates the complete cycle of souls returning to the Monad in the Nasuverse. This helps distinguish Shiki from other entities. She should be comparable at least to other true magic users by wielding a fragment of Ryougi Shiki's power, intrinsically tied to the Void.
I'd love to hear thoughts more specifically to reach a consensus about that “unknown” in her current profile
TL;DR: Musashi's arc shows a full return to the absolute Void (「 」), linking her to Shiki and highlighting an enlightenment beyond typical feats.
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Wankbreaker tried to nerf the verse but couldn't even remove 1-A Root so...The Root won't even get past 1-A let alone reaching the Peak of VSB. Thinking that the Nasu meta will go as planned now that Wanker is gone is a grave mistake
Also if you're still skeptical then wait for the cosmology and energy system blogs. I admit I'm a little skeptical still but I'll trust Shin and the others working on it.
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Need help from my FGO scalers
Is this a potential 1A ORT feat?
ORT can access the “Throne of Heroes” and damaging its information in it and absorbing informations of the heroic spirits in their true form which would scale him above every Heroic Spirit in The Throne of Heroes.
Is this a potential 1A ORT feat?
ORT can access the “Throne of Heroes” and damaging its information in it and absorbing informations of the heroic spirits in their true form which would scale him above every Heroic Spirit in The Throne of Heroes.
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At minimum, it's range, but it could possibly be an AP feat to.
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so maybe I’ll try to get Ort into low 1A then
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Maybe wait a bit for some cosmology revisions to be made; that'll make it a lot easier to argue for Low 1-A/1-A ORT.
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Feel free to give your own input or bring up scans you think would be helpful.The Root won't even get past 1-A let alone reaching the Peak of VSB. Thinking that the Nasu meta will go as planned now that Wanker is gone is a grave mistake
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Can a knowlgeable nasuverse supporter mind me yap a minute about musashi? I am new in the forum so please be comprehensive with me whenever I make mistakes
This won't be a super long basically we are just reviewing the full backstory on Musashi that everyone seems (or not?) to have missed, especially regarding her ties to Chaos, her Origin, and the connection to Ryougi Shiki Origin. I'll break it down step by step with evidence from Type-Moon sources.
To grasp the stakes, you need a solid handle on the concept of "Origins." Here's a quick summary:
Origins are the essence of a person, akin to something Platonic—an immutable, absolute concept that exists outside of reality and directly dictates behavior, personality, abilities, and destiny in the material world.
- They are records of your existence in the spiral and the core of your soul. The records themselves are unaffected even by your own thoughts, they exist eternally, even if the world gets destroyed, they remain unchanged forever.
.
Basically as summary, an Origin guides every entity's path in the material realm.
Why does this matter? Musashi's Origin is "Void" (or Emptiness/0), in contrast to Kojiro's, which is "Infinity."
)
Importantly, this isn't the same as Ryougi Shiki's Origin. Musashi's Void is subordinate to Shiki's, which is the ultimate 「 」 (often represented as " " or the Root's emptiness).
- Because her Origin is Void, Musashi can interact with emptiness or non-existence in the verse even reaching the heights of chaos whose essence lies beyond nonexistence.
https://imgur.com/a/8KnX5Vd
But it goes deeper: Her FGO profile reveals she's not just seeking "Zero" but a higher Void beyond her own Origin—a transcendent emptiness akin to 「 」.
imgur.com
Discover the magic of the internet at Imgur, a community powered entertainment destination. Lift your spirits with funny jokes, trending memes, entertaining gifs, inspiring stories, viral videos, and so much more from users.
「 」 is fundamentally inaccessible in the Nasuverse, except for Ryougi Shiki which is its Avatar. No one in Fate is supposed to return to the origin of all things (the Root/Akasha). As Araya Souren explains in Kara no Kyoukai, ascending to the source of creation means achieving enlightenment—a state that rejects life, as it equates to total dissolution into absolute nothingness. This path is blocked by humanity's collective unconscious.
imgur.com
Discover the magic of the internet at Imgur, a community powered entertainment destination. Lift your spirits with funny jokes, trending memes, entertaining gifs, inspiring stories, viral videos, and so much more from users.
Philosophically, returning to the Absolute First (the Monad) involves self-simplification and merging into it through complete self-erasure. This mirrors exactly what Musashi does in FGO:
imgur.com
Discover the magic of the internet at Imgur, a community powered entertainment destination. Lift your spirits with funny jokes, trending memes, entertaining gifs, inspiring stories, viral videos, and so much more from users.
Note that even her in-game data gets erased, emphasizing the depth—her Spirit Origin no longer exists in the Throne of Heroes, meaning every trace of her information is wiped from the material world.
imgur.com
Discover the magic of the internet at Imgur, a community powered entertainment destination. Lift your spirits with funny jokes, trending memes, entertaining gifs, inspiring stories, viral videos, and so much more from users.
For contrast, this is more fundamental than Solomon's erasure via Ars Paulina: He was removed from the Throne, but his data persists in the game, unlike Musashi's total wipe.
Do note that as supporting factor of Musashi reaching the root, Touko explained only the innocence of the void can trace back to the orign; This seems like a directly implication for musashi who has the origin of 0
imgur.com
Discover the magic of the internet at Imgur, a community powered entertainment destination. Lift your spirits with funny jokes, trending memes, entertaining gifs, inspiring stories, viral videos, and so much more from users.
In her final confrontation with Chaos:
imgur.com
Discover the magic of the internet at Imgur, a community powered entertainment destination. Lift your spirits with funny jokes, trending memes, entertaining gifs, inspiring stories, viral videos, and so much more from users.
Musashi achieves enlightenment by meeting her own Origin. She then merges back with「 」, either returning to absolute nothingness or becoming one with the divine (depending on philosophical interpretations). Technically, this makes Musashi akin to Void Shiki in that moment.
In Conclusion, I speculate Musashi illustrates the complete cycle of souls returning to the Monad in the Nasuverse. This helps distinguish Shiki from other entities. She should be comparable at least to other true magic users by wielding a fragment of Ryougi Shiki's power, intrinsically tied to the Void.
I'd love to hear thoughts more specifically to reach a consensus about that “unknown” in her current profile
TL;DR: Musashi's arc shows a full return to the absolute Void (「 」), linking her to Shiki and highlighting an enlightenment beyond typical feats.
It's possible, but we have seen that a Shadow Servant of Musashi can still exist, as seen in the Fate/Samurai Remnant event, and Musashi has seemingly reappeared for the Grand Saber Crowning Duel, so I don't know.
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Yeah ik, probably won’t be accepted tho
