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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

I think the core that Welt has is the Core of Truth, not the Core of Reason, since in APHO, Bronya stated that she is no longer a Herrscher which mean, she is giving her core back to welt.

Or can the Core of Truth turn back into the Core of Reason after Bronya give them back?


Ah nvm, I forgot that there are no such thing as core of truth
 
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I do not trust the Owl.
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Well, Owlbert is basically a good TV commentator O_o
But the action scenes arent the only times he has ever fought.
What I mean is that there is not enough solid evidence to make it a chain.
Edit: As for the whole immeasurable Welt scaling chains in HSR. I'd personally believe it should be a possibly rating and that they should have their own rating outside Immeasurable speed scaling.
Most of the characters will have unknown ratings in my opinion, off the top of my head the only speed feats are: Yunli, Yanqing, Feixiao, Cipher, Ica (?) and Seele (there are probably others) oh and Phainon's mftl+ if we count his galaxy thing
This is the scan id genuenly remove bcs his only ever showcased shit is one shotting DD beast and being glazed by express even by Evernight
Well, Evernight only has March's memories, so if you ask her the question she will answer based on March's memories 😭
Id still not take Owlbert statement because welt outside using blackhooes has done nothing else on or off screen, had used authrority of reason abilities 0 times in combat and is yet to use imaginary singularity rebuild which can kill higher dimensional beings so nah hes not allat
Yeah, actually that's what I'm saying, Welt is really standing straight as a board...
Also I'm still gutting yanqing's first key to multi solar system 😭
Mmmhhhh almost sure it fits TB or DH...
 
Just in gene2
depends, events tied to the story should count, events tied to side quests are case by case basis (none of amphoreus events are canon bcs despite phainon being merged with irontomb in 3.4 he was present in 3.5 and 6 events)
 
Id still not take Owlbert statement because welt outside using blackhooes has done nothing else on or off screen, had used authrority of reason abilities 0 times in combat and is yet to use imaginary singularity rebuild which can kill higher dimensional beings so nah hes not allat
Yeah, actually that's what I'm saying, Welt is really standing straight as a board...
This is still taking small action cutscenes as disqualifiers. It's like saying that Himeko was the only one fighting Aventurine and using her satellite on him while everyone else in the team afked and standing straight as a board
 
This is still taking small action cutscenes as disqualifiers. It's like saying that Himeko was the only one fighting Aventurine and using her satellite on him while everyone else in the team afked and standing straight as a board
vro its different when someone says yo he can showcase powers he ha in his prime
ahnd he does vs this but welt only
used one ability and it still didnt do shit lol
like if we take this as serious as possible then welt is either so fodder that its crazy or hoyo writers are genuenly i wont say the word (its
probably true given how they want hi3 and hsr connected but hi3
patch lasts 10 weeks and its still stuck at mars while hsr is alr
in 4x by the end of that arc lol)
 
all i want is welt to use SoE to cook zandar offscreen
block irontomb surtur move and cook zephyro after he tries to clean up (according to some “leaks” he will assasinate cyrene)
 
vro its different when someone says yo he can showcase powers he ha in his prime
ahnd he does vs this but welt only
used one ability and it still didnt do shit lol
like if we take this as serious as possible then welt is either so fodder that its crazy or hoyo writers are genuenly i wont say the word (its
probably true given how they want hi3 and hsr connected but hi3
patch lasts 10 weeks and its still stuck at mars while hsr is alr
in 4x by the end of that arc lol)
But its still using small action cutscenes to disqualify him.

Like whenever the astral express fights overworld enemies with a prior cutscene that theyre gonna fight. Do you think they actually fought and used their arsenal or just stood in a T pose position the entire fight letting their aura do the job for them considering these no action cutscenes for those types of fights.
 
But its still using small action cutscenes to disqualify him.

Like whenever the astral express fights overworld enemies with a prior cutscene that theyre gonna fight. Do you think they actually fought and used their arsenal or just stood in a T pose position the entire fight letting their aura do the job for them considering these no action cutscenes for those types of fights.
THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS IN THIS THREAD BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE IS PURPOSEFULLY IGNORING IT AND PRETENDING TO BE DEAF, THANK YOU FOR BEING ONE OF THE FEW LUCID ONES HERE
 
THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS IN THIS THREAD BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE IS PURPOSEFULLY IGNORING IT AND PRETENDING TO BE DEAF, THANK YOU FOR BEING ONE OF THE FEW LUCID ONES HERE
It falls under the same argument that boss fight attack animations and characters attacks/kits are non canon. This got shut down the moment Aventurine used his basic attack in the fate event during a cutscene and even casted his law manipulation dice game in a cutscene
 
But its still using small action cutscenes to disqualify him.

Like whenever the astral express fights overworld enemies with a prior cutscene that theyre gonna fight. Do you think they actually fought and used their arsenal or just stood in a T pose position the entire fight letting their aura do the job for them considering these no action cutscenes for those types of fights.
“its stoll using small cutscenenejwahsh”
OKAY BRO DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND MY POINT?
if he vlwere to actually use the abilities immetioned that he actually NEVER USED, be it gameplay cutscene or statement id have no problem. but no he did not its just that caracter story saying he fights people with gravity and small black holes.
This is why i had people say “Yo bro JY used LL to protect us from Phantylias star!!”
or “broo welt used img barrier broo” without genuenly 0 proof like yea welt definetlynused img singularity to one shot dominicus
(it was actually us doing most of the job)
Sure you can say they use all their abilities they CURRENTLY have shown but if i see people say yoo welt is in his prime bcs owlbert says so i will consider them illiterate bcs in no way is using only one thing (gravity) to fight showcasing prime abilities.
Prime Welt would unironically he able to replicate imaginary implosion pulse and start blowing up everyone and everything
 
ts is how chars like Linghsa Sushang Aglaee Hyacine (no coreflame amp) and fcking Tribbie (and many more) got their tiering bcs according to gameplay they grazed right asscheek on the enemy they faced
and why i did not want profiles for featless mfs
no one would complain this much abt scaling chain if we made profiles only for those who actually have fighting scenes or have been actively used in game to fight (or if hoyo can stop making boss fights literal jukping sessions like why is svarog gepard sunday and co being jumped by 5+ people)
 
depends, events tied to the story should count, events tied to side quests are case by case basis (none of amphoreus events are canon bcs despite phainon being merged with irontomb in 3.4 he was present in 3.5 and 6 events)
These are events considered to be prior to 3.4, except for the restaurant event (but that one is a dream)
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We cooking
I have to wait for Dan Heng due to the fact that my Phainon is taking 2 shots...
 
Is funny how fodders from Jarilo-VI can resist the Eternal Freeze while the Voidbums can't despite being them being unaffected by the cold of outer space 🤡

Overall, it is impressive how many things HSR fodders are capable of doing and resist
 
ts is how chars like Linghsa Sushang Aglaee Hyacine (no coreflame amp) and fcking Tribbie (and many more) got their tiering bcs according to gameplay they grazed right asscheek on the enemy they faced
and why i did not want profiles for featless mfs
no one would complain this much abt scaling chain if we made profiles only for those who actually have fighting scenes or have been actively used in game to fight (or if hoyo can stop making boss fights literal jukping sessions like why is svarog gepard sunday and co being jumped by 5+ people)
Svarog and Gepard > Domsday Beast >>>>>> Star-Eating Monster who Dan Heng casually fodderized with a single strike
 
Is funny how fodders from Jarilo-VI can resist the Eternal Freeze while the Voidbums can't despite being them being unaffected by the cold of outer space 🤡

Overall, it is impressive how many things HSR fodders are capable of doing and resist
Fodders from Jarilo-VI are Pathstriders of Preservation tho, so it’s not really a problem if they can defend against the Eternal Freeze, since the reason they became Pathstriders of Preservation in the first place is because they wanted to defend against the Eternal Freeze.
 
Svarog and Gepard > Domsday Beast >>>>>> Star-Eating Monster who Dan Heng casually fodderized with a single strike
? dont know why you bring that up, i simply dont like making profiles for characters who have no contribution to fighting, Aglaea and Tribbie are NOT combat oriented and Lingsha didnt do shit except beating mara struck fodders
Gepard for example is a captain of silvermane guards and according to luka event he is the strongest in belobog
Svarog made 7 people struggle against him
so they actually did something impressive to scale there
 
? dont know why you bring that up, i simply dont like making profiles for characters who have no contribution to fighting, Aglaea and Tribbie are NOT combat oriented and Lingsha didnt do shit except beating mara struck fodders
Gepard for example is a captain of silvermane guards and according to luka event he is the strongest in belobog
Svarog made 7 people struggle against him
so they actually did something impressive to scale there
Meh, I just like creating profiles, but I'll warn you that Cerydra will most likely be Tier Unknown
 
Is funny how fodders from Jarilo-VI can resist the Eternal Freeze while the Voidbums can't despite being them being unaffected by the cold of outer space 🤡

Overall, it is impressive how many things HSR fodders are capable of doing and resist
It's funny
Dan Heng casually fodderized with a single strike
????
Oh, Himeko's statement?
I'm wondering if I should contact Hoyoverse and tell them to double-check their VA of the game because it's borderline Enigmata-inducing! I mean, translating "repulse" into "defeated" is quite a feat...
Aglaea and Tribbie are NOT combat oriented
Well maybe Tribbie but in my opinion Aglaé should stay, I'm sure I read somewhere that she has combat experience
Meh, I just like creating profiles, but I'll warn you that Cerydra will most likely be Tier Unknown
All his feats are on the scepter 😭
Isn't his stuff 1A?
Also is no one from Bleach Tier 3?
Uh Sweet Dao would definitely get mad if he saw you say that
 
It's funny

????
Oh, Himeko's statement?
I'm wondering if I should contact Hoyoverse and tell them to double-check their VA of the game because it's borderline Enigmata-inducing! I mean, translating "repulse" into "defeated" is quite a feat...
actual problems is that they refers stars to planets and planets to stars (zephyro shit)
 
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