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Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)

No, Luke does not scale to the tier 0 force, nor can he use it.

Nobody can, nobody will. Put bluntly: we scale based on feats, not the source. It doesn't matter if your big **** force is tier 0, if you can only use it to a 3-D level, you're not doing shit smurf.
he still 1A so saber is cooked unelss they have her comp or something
 
Do you know what happend to that thread?
When will y'all try to make a tier 0 root upgrade?
That thread is long gone. There will be a new one once all the profiles and the cosmology page are updated. Moreover, the majority of the staff then agreed to the tier 0 upgrade, including Ultima. Only Deagonx disagreed for some reason, and he's no longer here.
 
That thread is long gone. There will be a new one once all the profiles and the cosmology page are updated. Moreover, the majority of the staff then agreed to the tier 0 upgrade, including Ultima. Only Deagonx disagreed for some reason, and he's no longer here.
Even if he is, or anybody in general, we'd beat them fair and square, it's not like it'd matter even if person X or Y remains here or not. I'm not going to lie, some of the arguments were tragic or entirely non-relevant to the thread, specifically on the opponents' side, but surprisingly, on some of our supporters' side as well. But meh, who cares, past bygones are bygones.
Point is, it'll reach Tier 0 in due time, even if you choose to deny it, you're free to argue in the thread then and there when it comes, so wait until then. Wondering if I should make the thread specifically after Toxic's unbanned, but he's told me I'm free to make a thread on it before that happens, either, but I'd like him to be the OP, since it's only fair given how he was one of the people, and the only ones who actively engaged against Deagon, so it's only fair considering the continuance. Though profiles and the cosmology page undoubtedly come first. I heard there's also stuff about Root in one of the Drama CDs, so I gotta get around to doing it eventually.
Also, I see there's been tons of activities, finally, good to see. I can't check any of the stuff in detail now, since I'll be dealing with exams soonish in a few weeks, but after I'm done with them, I'll get gearing up and make CRTs after discussing, if there's anything I find contradictory.
A fellow Tier 0 can’t be below another Tier 0, what are you talking about? Unless I missed something from the tier revisions, the real answer of a Tier 0 vs Tier 0 is “don’t think about it”.
Quite literally, in the omnipotency page, if you choose to go through it, that is, and you'll understand why, indeed, it is an absurd notion. A fight, by its very nature, is a process of change and differentiation to begin with.
 
A fellow Tier 0 can’t be below another Tier 0, what are you talking about? Unless I missed something from the tier revisions, the real answer of a Tier 0 vs Tier 0 is “don’t think about it”.
Not only, but the answer is "you can't think about it". No, better than it, the answer would literally be "no".
 
Ok, here is the remake of the Root, it not finished though.

Stuff that were changed:
Upgraded to Tier 0, New names, New image that perfectly fits for the Root, updated P&A, Updated the AP, Speed, durability and intelligence, and gave credit
 
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Since Wankbreaker's changes are being reverted, I don't think so?
Thank you for the reply.

Can anybody else confirm as well please? I think that lots of Nasuverse characters were extremely upgraded today and yesterday. 🙏
 
Thank you for the reply.

Can anybody else confirm as well please? I think that lots of Nasuverse characters were extremely upgraded today and yesterday. 🙏
There's a good reason there's still an outdated tag on the profiles, every single stat there might as well be a temporary stat until everything is figured out again, what happened was everything WB did was reverted, hence why there's extreme upgrades and whatnot.
 
Okay. This change was applied in conjunction, but there was no content revision thread link in the page's edit-summary box, and immeasurable speed did not seem to fit with the otherwise quite low statistics. 🙏
 
Okay. This change was applied in conjunction, but there was no content revision thread link in the page's edit-summary box, and immeasurable speed did not seem to fit with the otherwise quite low statistics. 🙏
I was the one that reverted Dantes's page, and I thought I put the thread in the edit-summary box. Did I not do that? If so, my apologies.
 
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Anyway, the suggestion that all the profiles should be closed and no new CRTs should be allowed until the ones from the supporters comes out seems very good, specially after this incident.
 
Ok, here is the remake of the Root, it not finished though.

Stuff that were changed:
Upgraded to Tier 0, New names, New image that perfectly fits for the Root, updated P&A, Updated the AP, Speed, durability and intelligence, and gave credit
Another thing that distinguishes Akasha from the Akashic Records is that being the highest plane of existence within the Nasuverse, it is very distinct in location from the Akashic records while existing close to it. Akasha is a realm outside of conceptualization representing true abstraction, nothingness, fathomless, indescribable

and it is beyond the realms of even language and can't be described even through any form of language (this do not give a tier iirc, its just an observation)

It is apophatic to all definitions and descriptions attempting to capture「 」holds true value but is describing something lesser than「 」, being independent of all descriptions given to「 」

.due to its endless transcendence as the one absolute that can't be surpassed. A territory of freedom unrestrained from boundaries
However this needs translation, but it basically should mean:

「 」doesn't even describe its true essence, as 「 」 is nothing but an ideation crafted by the Nasuverse characters in an attempt to comprehend its divine ineffability. That’s why anything that still has a conception, meaning and existence cannot touch it if it does, it will cease to exist right on the spot.

and get reverted back to nothingness in its primordial state

And when anyone gets erased into this nothingness, they lose all conception, meaning and their very existence to become God inside it and cannot return back to reality which still has conception and meaning to it
So the root should have high godly regen negation and inmortality type 8 negation (I can add it if u want)

For void shiki it should have 2 possibilities and tiers:

  1. As for which one Void Shiki is connected to, the answer is everything. She has described herself as being inside Akashic Records and Akasha. She is everything. She is True Emptiness(Void Shiki) So it should be High Outer

    2. She is only an aspect of the root, given her Outerversal

    And thats all

    Edit: Forgot the album lmao
 
2. She is only an aspect of the root, given her Outerversal
There's no such thing as being an aspect of an unfathomable void. You can't quantify or measure the root so if she's confirmed to be it, ie, Void Shiki, then she's the root. The only possible counter is Void Shiki having a physical limitation, aka, human body. But thats just Void Shiki(the root) possessing Shiki Ryougi's body as a vessel.

All in all, Shiki Ryougi with Meodp is different from Void Shiki hence different tiers.
 
There's no such thing as being an aspect of an unfathomable void. You can't quantify or measure the root so if she's confirmed to be it, ie, Void Shiki, then she's the root. The only possible counter is Void Shiki having a physical limitation, aka, human body. But thats just Void Shiki(the root) possessing Shiki Ryougi's body.

All in all, Shiki Ryougi with Meodp is different from Void Shiki hence different tiers.
So she would be H1A+ with inmortality type 9 and high godly regen and negation.

Also u can be the aspect of a void, the chaos king from marvel is an aspect from oblivon
 
Oh yeah, what do we think of this blog?

Does it have good enough info and scans for Nasu stats?

I think we can use some stuff from it. Some of the people who worked on are also regulars on here.
 
So she would be H1A+ with inmortality type 9 and high godly regen and negation.
Yeah, or straight up tier 0 if the physical aspect of void Shiki isn't really taken into account as VS is literally just root with Shiki's physical body as a vessel
Also u can be the aspect of a void, the chaos king from marvel is an aspect from oblivon
I was referring in the sense of a tier 0 entity. A truly unquantifiable or indivisible entity. Oblivion is only High 1A. So an aspect of that is very possible and believable
 
Yeah, or straight up tier 0 if the physical aspect of void Shiki isn't really taken into account as VS is literally just root with Shiki's physical body as a vessel

I was referring in the sense of a tier 0 entity. A truly unquantifiable or indivisible entity. Oblivion is only High 1A. So an aspect of that is very possible and believable
There can only be 1 boundless char in the verse, HP lovecraft had the same problem of having two tier 0 so only yog has it while azatoth is H1A.

Edit: In HP lovecraft is because Azathoth embodies the infinitesimal point in his godly paradigm with Yog-Sothoth, so they are the same entity (literally the same entity). For nasu it isnt the case so its either tier 0 Shiki or tier 0 root
 
There can only be 1 boundless char in the verse, HP lovecraft had the same problem of having two tier 0 so only yog has it while azatoth is H1A.

Edit: In HP lovecraft is because Azathoth embodies the infinitesimal point in his godly paradigm with Yog-Sothoth, so they are the same entity (literally the same entity). For nasu it isnt the case so its either tier 0 Shiki or tier 0 root
Bro, Void Shiki is the root. They are the same.
 
Can anyone link me the mage's association discord server? (If it's allowed to join ofc)
Ask Crim or Shin; they'll be able to help you.
Ooooooh really? Nice to know some the people who worked there also work here in the wiki. That's a good base to start off from, then. Since it has a Nasuverse cosmology section and a Heroic Spirit section.
Yeah, Cyber is a regular on the wiki, and Mikhael is actually one of our Calculation Group Members. I know some of the others are also on the wiki and forum, but I don't know how active they are.
 
Erm no there is no proof of that, stated very clearly ( ) is above shiki
????
Where is this stated? That would make no sense because like I said, Void Shiki is the root.
「……そうね。式は、壊すことしかできないもの。あなたにとっては、やっぱりわたしは式なんだ わ」
「――式?」
「……わたしの起源は虚無だから、その肉体を持つ式は死が視える。二年間――昏睡状態で外界を見ることもで きず、ただ両儀式という虚無を見つめ続けてきた式は、死の手触りを知ってしまったから。
 式はね、ずっと根源の渦と呼ばれる海に浮いていたのよ。ただひとり、「 」のなかで式というカタチをもっ て」
 ……たしかに虚無というものが起源であるのなら、彼女は全てのものを無に|帰《き》したいと思うのだろう 。
 だから例外なく、式はあらゆるモノを殺せた。式という人格が否定しようと、それが彼女の魂の原型なのだか ら。虚無であるが故に、あらゆるものの死を望む方向性――。
「そう、それが式の能力よ。|浅上藤乃《あさがみ ふじの》と同じ、人とは違ったモノが見れる特殊なチャンネル。根源の渦という世界の縮図を|垣間《かいま》 見られる特別な眼。
 けど、わたしはもっと深いところまで潜っていける。いえ――わたし自身が、その渦なのかもし れないわ」
"...Indeed. Shiki is incapable of causing anything but destruction. And as far as you're concerned, I'm Shiki after all."
"---Shiki?"
"...My Origin is Nothingness. As a result, Shiki, who is possessed of that body, can perceive death. Two years ago--- when she fell into a coma, the outside world was shut off to her. Her vision turned inward toward the nothingness called [Ryougi Shiki], and she felt the touch of death.
Shiki floated on the sea known as the spiral of origin for a long, long time. A solitary form in the void of 「 」."
...With an Origin like "Nothingness" the girl would certainly feel compelled to return everything to nothing.
Therefore, she was able to kill all things without exception. Even if the personality of Shiki tried to deny it, her soul itself was oriented toward the death of everything.
"That is Shiki's ability. Just like Asagami Fujino, she has a unique channel that can see things normal humans can't. Eyes that can glimpse the spiral of origin, itself a microcosm of the greater world.

But, I can dive even deeper than she. Or rather... I suppose you could say that I myself am that spiral."
 
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????
Where is this stated? That would make no sense because like I said, Void Shiki is the root.
Still caps at H1A ngl, shiki depends on the root, the root dosnt depend on shiki. Shiki can't live without the root while ( ) can live without shiki. Maximum I would give her the same scenario as HP: Both part of the same boundless structure (they wont give her tier 0 ofc)
 
Ok, here is the remake of the Root, it not finished though.

Stuff that were changed:
Upgraded to Tier 0, New names, New image that perfectly fits for the Root, updated P&A, Updated the AP, Speed, durability and intelligence, and gave credit
Bump, changed stuff
 
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