Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

[Voidnether]

I'm not talking about that, but about this
« and the inner forms of THEMSELVES are true infinity beyond perception,[5] »


Yeah I'll look into this issue later, some things need to be clarified

Yeah I didn't replace that one part cause it was deemed reliable at the least

 

[Ayato256]

I feel like someone should make a CRT over 1-B paths. This discussion is going to lead nowhere otherwise.

Can you clarify what you are talking about?

You mean the "Paths" themselves are 1-B? If that's the case, I'm against it; we'd only be atomizing the concept and we'd be at rock bottom. I mean, an abstract 12D concept is way too big and it will never work
It would only destroy the verse more than anything else...
I was thinking that someone should create a CRT to fix that really needs to fit 1-B in the verse or just start by fixing our chain scaling problem, or we should wait until the end of the Amphoreus Arc or wait until 3.8 of the game before doing something big

 

[Voidnether]

Can you clarify what you are talking about?

You mean the "Paths" themselves are 1-B? If that's the case, I'm against it; we'd only be atomizing the concept and we'd be at rock bottom. I mean, an abstract 12D concept is way too big and it will never work
It would only destroy the verse more than anything else...
I was thinking that someone should create a CRT to fix that really needs to fit 1-B in the verse or just start by fixing our chain scaling problem, or we should wait until the end of the Amphoreus Arc or wait until 3.8 of the game before doing something big

Paths are basically congregations of Imaginary Energy, Imaginary Energy is the same thing that's like the only reason why the Imaginary Tree even existed until now. Atleast according to the databank, because it's the same energy that sustains the Tree itself. If the Tree is rated as 12-D and the energy sustaining it being lower would just like mess up how powerscaling works in general

Imaginary Energy sources are just through Path, and Path is the congregations of the Imaginary Energy that sustains the Tree itself so unless we have another Imaginary Energy sources.. All of them are 1-B from now on, unless we just downgrade the Tree which wouldn't make sense by that point

 

[PedjaTarzan]

I regret upgrading the verse despite phainon literally proving usage of paths as emanator gives you ability to tap into that ammount of power, even so how blatant irontomb killing aeon with path of destruction is, it doesnt help how garbage vsbw standards is bcs hax isnt even scalable its just range or fodder if it doesnt have trillion layers of haxxes (literally makes no sense but since omega super ultra 67 layers of meta made up words qualities exist) that being said idc who will but im not downgrading that
i will adjust what i deem adjustable but something like this is up to you

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Can you clarify what you are talking about?

You mean the "Paths" themselves are 1-B? If that's the case, I'm against it; we'd only be atomizing the concept and we'd be at rock bottom. I mean, an abstract 12D concept is way too big and it will never work
It would only destroy the verse more than anything else...
I was thinking that someone should create a CRT to fix that really needs to fit 1-B in the verse or just start by fixing our chain scaling problem, or we should wait until the end of the Amphoreus Arc or wait until 3.8 of the game before doing something big

So, since the current state of the verse is so bad, what downgrades do you suggest then? Where do you think Low-Tiers, Mid-Tiers, High-Tiers, Top-Tiers and God-Tiers cap into?

I regret upgrading the verse despite phainon literally proving usage of paths as emanator gives you ability to tap into that ammount of power, even so how blatant irontomb killing aeon with path of destruction is, it doesnt help how garbage vsbw standards is bcs hax isnt even scalable its just range or fodder if it doesnt have trillion layers of haxxes (literally makes no sense but since omega super ultra 67 layers of meta made up words qualities exist) that being said idc who will but im not downgrading that
i will adjust what i deem adjustable but something like this is up to you

Now I'm in doubt about which of these games is the most cursed one in Powerscaling, HSR/HI3rd or God of War

 

[PedjaTarzan]

hi3 is even worse tho, that verse is beyond saving and id actually do a garrixian no2. and nuke it, no one works on it and when it does it justs gets easily plummeted back to being dead
doesnt help how hoyo themselves chainscaled S ranks herrschers (mostly baseline level ones) and Flame chasers to ******* S rank TB so now u have whatever tier Tb is = they are that tier no matter what
so in the end the curse of scaling chain is actually hoyo being bums connecting hsr meta to hi3 one where it was already all dimensional scaling being used for god tiers and if i use their actual feats (dont even try to use elysia 4-A feat its actually made by sora ai and its not usable! (literally uses it in combat when u play her) and it doesnt help how every dimensional feat is done using energy output but hoyo decides to drop some bomb statement and forever refuse to elaborate bcs it got debubked one millisecond after welt appeared bcs he one shot a beast whos stronger than said bomb so it goes without saying hi3 is beyond saving and hsr is slowly going into that hellhole thanks to media literacy draining all of intelligence of people to the point u need to state, draw and POINT it out multiple times but people will still deny stuff

 

[Ayato256]

Paths are basically congregations of Imaginary Energy, Imaginary Energy is the same thing that's like the only reason why the Imaginary Tree even existed until now. Atleast according to the databank, because it's the same energy that sustains the Tree itself. If the Tree is rated as 12-D and the energy sustaining it being lower would just like mess up how powerscaling works in general

Imaginary Energy sources are just through Path, and Path is the congregations of the Imaginary Energy that sustains the Tree itself so unless we have another Imaginary Energy sources.. All of them are 1-B from now on, unless we just downgrade the Tree which wouldn't make sense by that point

I didn't say that Paths are inferior I said that this is not possible because Concepts (Paths) are abstract

Actually to be clear, you cannot assume that a concept, IMG energy, souls or any other metaphysical stuff is dimensionnal
You can assert that, I don't deny it, but if you do, you necessarily imply that the metaphysical thing simply isn't, because something abstract isn't supposed to have physicality, so you have several options: either you assert that the Paths are 12D and therefore you get a 1-B grade but you necessarily lose the type 1 concept since it wouldn't be abstract or you don't do it, you keep everything as it is now and if you feel like it, you can give a 1-B rank to the Aeons since THEIR Paths govern the reality of the Universe (Besides, this last part is obsolete since the Aeons already have a 1-B range for the same justification that I gave)

Unless I'm mistaken somewhere, there shouldn't be any mistake in what I'm saying.

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

hi3 is even worse tho, that verse is beyond saving and id actually do a garrixian no2. and nuke it, no one works on it and when it does it justs gets easily plummeted back to being dead
doesnt help how hoyo themselves chainscaled S ranks herrschers (mostly baseline level ones) and Flame chasers to ******* S rank TB so now u have whatever tier Tb is = they are that tier no matter what
so in the end the curse of scaling chain is actually hoyo being bums connecting hsr meta to hi3 one where it was already all dimensional scaling being used for god tiers and if i use their actual feats (dont even try to use elysia 4-A feat its actually made by sora ai and its not usable! (literally uses it in combat when u play her) and it doesnt help how every dimensional feat is done using energy output but hoyo decides to drop some bomb statement and forever refuse to elaborate bcs it got debubked one millisecond after welt appeared bcs he one shot a beast whos stronger than said bomb so it goes without saying hi3 is beyond saving and hsr is slowly going into that hellhole thanks to media literacy draining all of intelligence of people to the point u need to state, draw and POINT it out multiple times but people will still deny stuff

Lol, this reminds me that people were asking for Multi-Galaxy level feats on-screen since they were discarding the statements regarding the Lord Ravagers, and when we finally got a feat of that level on-screen via Phainon's Animated Short, people still have the nerve to say that it was metaphorical and simulated

 

[helello100]

hi3 is even worse tho, that verse is beyond saving and id actually do a garrixian no2. and nuke it, no one works on it and when it does it justs gets easily plummeted back to being dead
doesnt help how hoyo themselves chainscaled S ranks herrschers (mostly baseline level ones) and Flame chasers to ******* S rank TB so now u have whatever tier Tb is = they are that tier no matter what
so in the end the curse of scaling chain is actually hoyo being bums connecting hsr meta to hi3 one where it was already all dimensional scaling being used for god tiers and if i use their actual feats (dont even try to use elysia 4-A feat its actually made by sora ai and its not usable! (literally uses it in combat when u play her) and it doesnt help how every dimensional feat is done using energy output but hoyo decides to drop some bomb statement and forever refuse to elaborate bcs it got debubked one millisecond after welt appeared bcs he one shot a beast whos stronger than said bomb so it goes without saying hi3 is beyond saving and hsr is slowly going into that hellhole thanks to media literacy draining all of intelligence of people to the point u need to state, draw and POINT it out multiple times but people will still deny stuff

I agree with you, Hoyoverse has that weird power scaling bullcrap going on

I didn't say that Paths are inferior I said that this is not possible because Concepts (Paths) are abstract

Actually to be clear, you cannot assume that a concept, IMG energy, souls or any other metaphysical stuff is dimensionnal
You can assert that, I don't deny it, but if you do, you necessarily imply that the metaphysical thing simply isn't, because something abstract isn't supposed to have physicality, so you have several options: either you assert that the Paths are 12D and therefore you get a 1-B grade but you necessarily lose the type 1 concept since it wouldn't be abstract or you don't do it, you keep everything as it is now and if you feel like it, you can give a 1-B rank to the Aeons since THEIR Paths govern the reality of the Universe (Besides, this last part is obsolete since the Aeons already have a 1-B range for the same justification that I gave)

Unless I'm mistaken somewhere, there shouldn't be any mistake in what I'm saying.

If hoyoverse writers actually gave more explanation with better feats IMG tree could be 1-A right now and we would not be having any issues but....here we are.

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

it doesnt help how garbage vsbw standards is bcs hax isnt even scalable its just range or fodder if it doesnt have trillion layers of haxxes (literally makes no sense but since omega super ultra 67 layers of meta made up words qualities exist) that being said idc who will but im not downgrading that

This site is biased in favor towards Tier 1-A and above.

 

[helello100]

This site is biased in favor towards Tier 1-A and above.

I get abstracts not having a dimensional scaling but...an abstract concept governing 12D universe should not be equal to one that governs 4-D lol

 

[MotherStar]

Paths are basically congregations of Imaginary Energy, Imaginary Energy is the same thing that's like the only reason why the Imaginary Tree even existed until now. Atleast according to the databank, because it's the same energy that sustains the Tree itself. If the Tree is rated as 12-D and the energy sustaining it being lower would just like mess up how powerscaling works in general

Imaginary Energy sources are just through Path, and Path is the congregations of the Imaginary Energy that sustains the Tree itself so unless we have another Imaginary Energy sources.. All of them are 1-B from now on, unless we just downgrade the Tree which wouldn't make sense by that point

So one thing that the imaginary tree created is support????? Imaginary energy exists thanks to the imaginary tree, not the other way around, eh?

 

[MotherStar]

If hoyoverse writers actually gave more explanation with better feats IMG tree could be 1-A right now and we would not be having any issues but....here we are.

From what I know the evidence is already sufficient for 1-A and even more but hey, the debunks were accepted even though 90% of the arguments did not have the right context, did not use all the panels of the explanation etc.

 

[helello100]

From what I know the evidence is already sufficient for 1-A and even more but hey, the debunks were accepted even though 90% of the arguments did not have the right context, did not use all the panels of the explanation etc.

That explains so much.

 

[Ayato256]

So, since the current state of the verse is so bad, what downgrades do you suggest then? Where do you think Low-Tiers, Mid-Tiers, High-Tiers, Top-Tiers and God-Tiers cap into?

I haven't thought about it too much yet on the spot, as for Hsr I would say that the Aeons remain 1-B (I'm still wondering about the avatars if they should keep the 1-B rating, at least it's contextual), the avatars adapt to their own feats, the Emanators keep their 3-B rating, and for the Pathriders idk, in my opinion it's mainly the Emanators and the Aeon avatars who will go down
And for chain scaling, speed, Pedja has already said that he will revise it, I will not deal with AP and lifting force right away, AP I am too lazy and lifting force is completely unknown to me (I am sure that Hyacine must not benefit from it).

I want to make it clear, though, that you have every right to disagree with my proposals, and I'm willing to listen to any arguments that may arise. I'm not here to destroy the verse anyway; the community is already taking care of that, given all the Enigmata Pathriders you can find there. But I much prefer to have a stable verse with real foundations that don't change every few days rather than an unstable one with scaling that can be greatly improved.

Lol, this reminds me that people were asking for Multi-Galaxy level feats on-screen since they were discarding the statements regarding the Lord Ravagers, and when we finally got a feat of that level on-screen via Phainon's Animated Short, people still have the nerve to say that it was metaphorical and simulated

These people are a little crazy honestly, or rather, it seems like denial

I agree with you, Hoyoverse has that weird power scaling bullcrap going on

If hoyoverse writers actually gave more explanation with better feats IMG tree could be 1-A right now and we would not be having any issues but....here we are.

Completely agree, Hoyo has this bad habit of always leaving players wanting more because not everything is explained clearly or quite simply some things have contradictions (for example, you are told that the Paths are infinite but as soon as your back is turned, Nihility has an end, unless it is a metaphor, I do not understand this script direction)

I get an abstracts not having a dimensional scaling but...an abstract concept governing 12D universe should not be equal to one that governs 4-D lol

It is by definition absurd.

 

[Ayato256]

Does anyone have an Evernight sandbox?

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Does anyone have an Evernight sandbox?

Here is her sandbox, and here is her haxxes

 

[Vietthai96]

Vote delete the verse

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Here is her sandbox, and here is her haxxes

If you’re wondering why I haven’t touched that sandbox. I was fixing demon slayer profiles

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

I'll be honest, I'm more interested in creating a profile for Irontomb than for Hysilens and Cerydra

 

[PedjaTarzan]

I agree with you, Hoyoverse has that weird power scaling bullcrap going on


If hoyoverse writers actually gave more explanation with better feats IMG tree could be 1-A right now and we would not be having any issues but....here we are.

Actually they have, and then decided to confuse wether the IMG Tree is Physical universe or entire Imaginary Space
like i genuenly dont understand who writes terminology but he is defo trolling

 

[Ayato256]

Here is her sandbox, and here is her haxxes

Thanks but only 6 haxs ?
I found 10 or 11

Vote delete the verse

Not nice

I'll be honest, I'm more interested in creating a profile for Irontomb than for Hysilens and Cerydra

Same opinion, honestly I have absolutely no idea what Cerydra could have except her almost absolute authority via the Ultimate Protocol (Law) and Hysilens, well I only remember that she can create illusions, nothing else

 

[Ayato256]

the IMG Tree is Physical universe

Where ?

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Thanks but only 6 haxs ?
I found 10 or 11

I mean, it was Aernasilver who created this sandbox for her haxxes, and on top of that he doesn't seem to have finished all missions from 3.6, and I'm still stucked watching the version 3.4 main mission

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Where ?

IMG tree theory and the fact imaginary tree is just model of the universe
its imaginary space thqts the main structure that encompasses the entire universe

 

[helello100]

Actually they have, and then decided to confuse wether the IMG Tree is Physical universe or entire Imaginary Space
like i genuenly dont understand who writes terminology but he is defo trolling

I think they tried to mean it contains both probably.

 

[Ayato256]

I mean, it was Aernasilver who created this sandbox for her haxxes, and on top of that he doesn't seem to have finished all missions from 3.6, and I'm still stucked watching the version 3.4 main mission

AH

IMG tree theory and the fact imaginary tree is just model of the universe
its imaginary space thqts the main structure that encompasses the entire universe

Huuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh
Yeah, I agree with helello on that point, they must have tried to say both
Honestly, I've always thought that the Imaginary Tree itself isn't the universe, at least not the real universe, since it's essentially a model, maybe just an attempt to describe the universe... I don't really know what to think about it. The fact that Hoyo's cosmology took several years to come up with a more or less decent answer to a question that emerged somewhere between the early years of the game is annoying, especially since their choices are super questionable at first.

 

[Voidnether]

I didn't say that Paths are inferior I said that this is not possible because Concepts (Paths) are abstract

Actually to be clear, you cannot assume that a concept, IMG energy, souls or any other metaphysical stuff is dimensionnal
You can assert that, I don't deny it, but if you do, you necessarily imply that the metaphysical thing simply isn't, because something abstract isn't supposed to have physicality, so you have several options: either you assert that the Paths are 12D and therefore you get a 1-B grade but you necessarily lose the type 1 concept since it wouldn't be abstract or you don't do it, you keep everything as it is now and if you feel like it, you can give a 1-B rank to the Aeons since THEIR Paths govern the reality of the Universe (Besides, this last part is obsolete since the Aeons already have a 1-B range for the same justification that I gave)

Unless I'm mistaken somewhere, there shouldn't be any mistake in what I'm saying.

The problem is that we have all the feats for those stuff to be metaphysical, so they're not restricted by dimensionality in the slightest. You have to take a look at the cosmology page just to see how much metaphysical stuff there is for the concepts, imaginary energy and so on just for them to be 1-B even with the most blatant 1-A feat possible, why? Because it's Honkai, everyone is somehow opposed against 1-A even if it's practically the most blatant thing you see here

So one thing that the imaginary tree created is support????? Imaginary energy exists thanks to the imaginary tree, not the other way around, eh?

It is definitely the other way around

This theory describes the various worlds existing in different spacetimes as having a tree-like structure. Every branch is a specific path along which worlds might exist, with every leaf being the marks these worlds have made along the parameter of time. The crown of the tree remains in a dynamic state as it absorbs the masterless Imaginary Energy from the space-time vasculature of the trunk. New shoots grow, withered leaves fall, and endless births and deaths occur among the infinite universe...
Describing the universe's structure as a "tree" may be an attitude that views the Imaginary Tree as a life form.

Actually they have, and then decided to confuse wether the IMG Tree is Physical universe or entire Imaginary Space, like i genuenly dont understand who writes terminology but he is defo trolling

Imaginary Tree has two though, the physical and the metaphysical universe as explained by the Remembrance that they live in the metaphysical universe that would just build the physical universe if Irontomb destroys it and this metaphysical universe obviously includes the Aeons, them requiring to descend to the physical plane, or those that happened in the physical plane are mere simulated projections of them, even the Eden of Blessed Insight which is the metaphysical realm still had the databank itself saying whether Fuli's avatar there is false or not. Because Eden of Blessed Insight was a place built by the Garden of Recollection for Fuli

Sam-3000, the Navigator who led the Astral Express to discover the Eden of Blessed Insight, once recorded: "The Eden of Blessed Insight is the nursery of the Remembrance, with Fuli's towering figure standing at its center." However, it currently seems that her description wasn't entirely accurate. It wasn't that Fuli dwelled deep within the Eden of Blessed Insight, but rather that the Garden of Recollection built this Pure Land of Remembrance around the Aeon.

The Memokeepers believe that when the cosmos faces its inevitable end, Fuli will select certain memories to use as a blueprint to resurrect all realms in the new universe. Thus, the Garden of Recollection traverses through space, carefully selecting precious memories to offer to the Aeon. A magnificent Pure Land gradually takes shape, much like how the IPC piles stones beside the Amber Lord.

Such is all that mortals know about the Eden of Blessed Insight. To this day, these accumulated materials remain unused, while Fuli simply sits in meditation at the center of the Pure Land, silently recording everything. Scholars question: With the whereabouts of the Aeon of Remembrance obscured by the Garden of Recollection, could the Crystal God of the Eden of Blessed Insight be merely a false avatar? The Cremators spread even more terrifying information: Fuli has long since perished, THEIR powers broken, while the Garden of Recollection had usurped divine authority to manipulate the masterless Path.

 

[Voidnether]

Like if the standard was for CM1 to be true platonic in nature which would be something that's 1-A, yeah like what do we even do bro.. We have the feats and all that, it's on the cosmology page there, but would there be anyone to accept it as 1-A? I don't even know

Unless HSR is the equivalent state of Nasuverse, I don't think it's that bad but like man who would care atp if the slightest feat gets downplayed into oblivion

We atleast have a feat for the physical universe in the Imaginary Tree to be High 1-B+ up to Low 1-A at the least, then the crown of the tree is 1-A as it practically houses these Aeons that have to descend to the physical plane and other things and so on. I don't know about you guys but it's practically impossible for something like this to not be 1-A after the things I've said about basically every Aeon that they must have an avatar to descend here

 

[MotherStar]

IMG tree theory and the fact imaginary tree is just model of the universe
its imaginary space thqts the main structure that encompasses the entire universe

Huh??? The theory is wrong

 

[MotherStar]

C'est certainement l'inverse

.......... well Zandar messed up lol. The imaginary tree doesn't absorb imaginary energy since he created it, so Zandar's theory of the imaginary tree would talk about leaf worlds (saying that a leaf world contains another is not wrong) so in itself he is right but it doesn't talk about the real imaginary tree

 

[MotherStar]

Like if the standard was for CM1 to be true platonic in nature which would be something that's 1-A, yeah like what do we even do bro.. We have the feats and all that, it's on the cosmology page there, but would there be anyone to accept it as 1-A? I don't even know

Unless HSR is the equivalent state of Nasuverse, I don't think it's that bad but like man who would care atp if the slightest feat gets downplayed into oblivion

We atleast have a feat for the physical universe in the Imaginary Tree to be High 1-B+ up to Low 1-A at the least, then the crown of the tree is 1-A as it practically houses these Aeons that have to descend to the physical plane and other things and so on. I don't know about you guys but it's practically impossible for something like this to not be 1-A after the things I've said about basically every Aeon that they must have an avatar to descend here

The 1-A of the imaginary tree is not false (it's even the minimum for me) but we should stop following only the information from hsr knowing that the imaginary tree is not a real tree and that then as said in the game, Zandar only made a theory and this theory speaks more of the leaf worlds (and its infinite number) than of the real imaginary tree

 

[Voidnether]

.......... well Zandar messed up lol. The imaginary tree doesn't absorb imaginary energy since he created it, so Zandar's theory of the imaginary tree would talk about leaf worlds (saying that a leaf world contains another is not wrong) so in itself he is right but it doesn't talk about the real imaginary tree

Wasn't it explained in HI3 too? Pretty sure the sole reason I even used that databank was cause I do remember it being explained in HI3 somewhere that IT absorbs IE. Also if anything, no one rlly created the Tree, if there were then it had to be the Outer Gods (GGZ)

The 1-A of the imaginary tree is not false (it's even the minimum for me) but we should stop following only the information from hsr knowing that the imaginary tree is not a real tree and that then as said in the game, Zandar only made a theory and this theory speaks more of the leaf worlds (and its infinite number) than of the real imaginary tree

I mean, it's not like someone's capable of comprehending the actual Tree. Not even to the likes of Otto when what he encountered is simply a mere projection of the Tree that allows him to make a timeline where Kallen survived the original disaster by rewriting history altogether. If someone's capable of understanding the true nature of the Tree, 100% more powerful than the Aeons combined or whoever it is

 

[MotherStar]

Wasn't it explained in HI3 too? Pretty sure the sole reason I even used that databank was cause I do remember it being explained in HI3 somewhere that IT absorbs IE. Also if anything, no one rlly created the Tree, if there were then it had to be the Outer Gods (GGZ)

Well, the imaginary tree came out of the Sea of Quanta and then the imaginary energy is created by the imaginary tree. For Yog Sothoth tf it is sure and the outer gods it is seriously possible yes.

 

[MotherStar]

I mean, it's not like someone's capable of comprehending the actual Tree. Not even to the likes of Otto when what he encountered is simply a mere projection of the Tree that allows him to make a timeline where Kallen survived the original disaster by rewriting history altogether. If someone's capable of understanding the true nature of the Tree, 100% more powerful than the Aeons combined or whoever it is

It's quite logical knowing that with the sea of quanta they are the highest (I don't know where the tower of Babylon is placed) and therefore the only superior ones would be the outer gods and Yog Sothoth

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Uhhh, so let me get this straight, are going to make an massive revision for this verse? And the chars that aren't Emanators are going to downgraded? I'm confused ATM kekw

 

[Voidnether]

Uhhh, so let me get this straight, are going to make an massive revision for this verse? And the chars that aren't Emanators are going to downgraded? I'm confused ATM kekw

Nothing. Ever. Happens.

 

[EINAKUROMU]

then the crown of the tree is 1-A

Eh... I don't think crown of the tree is 1-A, the crown of tree is most likely refer to collections/totality of leaves, branches, twigs and etc (this is just my opinion)

I do remember it being explained in HI3 somewhere that IT absorbs IE

Not really. From Hi3rd, The IT emerges from The SoQ. The SoQ want to flood The IT while The IT want to absorb the SoQ. The Honkai act as mechanism to nature the growth of the IT.
Imaginary energy came from space-time vasculature of the trunk of the tree. The one who absorb imaginary energy is the crown of tree(which I mentioned before) not the IT itself (well, this is just my opinion )

 

[Voidnether]

Eh... I don't think crown of the tree is 1-A, the crown of tree is most likely refer to collections/totality of leaves, branches, twigs and etc (this is just my opinion)

It houses the Aeons at the least, so it's def 1-A

Not really. From Hi3rd, The IT emerges from The SoQ. The SoQ want to flood The IT while The IT want to absorb the SoQ. The Honkai act as mechanism to nature the growth of the IT.
Imaginary energy came from space-time vasculature of the trunk of the tree. The one who absorb imaginary energy is the crown of tree(which I mentioned before) not the IT itself (well, this is just my opinion )

HSR confirmed that IT emerged from SoQ, but it also confirmed that IT is unrivaled compared to the SoQ, the crown of the Tree absorbing the imaginary energy were cause of the Aeons that's hosted there and the Paths so this kinda confirmed that Path is well, 1-B at least

 

[StalkerCh]

It's the same but no longer has access to all the capabilities it had in hi3, including the arguments used for the immea

If it is that so, why do you still use immeasurable speed then on profiles?