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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

I hate to spam quotes but whatever.
“Mare: Beneath the Aeons: The Low-Dimensional World As A Will and A Surface Phenomenon talks about us living in a low-dimensional world, and the Aeons we sense are simply projections from a higher dimension.”

I honestly I dgaf about your rationalizations to information that straight up debunks you. It’s spelt out pretty clearly. Last time i checked sight is a sense, so they only saw a projection of nanook. The projection is very much real and doesn’t contradict new information. At this point take your L, you are OBJECTIVELY incorrect
Do you genuinely trust Mare than the Genius Society members themselves who actually KNEW what happened in Amphoreus, "doesn't contradict new information" so you agreed with the Nanook one in Amphoreus being his actual form instead of his avatar then xd

Yeah right, says the guy who just committed self-defeating 😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

"Take the L" massive lol in the laughing out loud center because I KEEP WINNING and you keep LOSING
 
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You can't claim that it's Us, since Zandar was talking about the Aeons, the Paths, and the Trailblazer Path. And that argument alone isn't enough. Only by combining it with existing information about the Aeons can you draw a conclusion about how the Aeons work, that is, with an avatar in the physical plane.
You do actually realize they differentiated it, no? If it's an avatar, they would've differentiated it by the statement that Lan descended to the physical plane or Nous giving Fu Xuan's third eye (Omniscia) in his human form. They didn't do that with Amphoreus, no?
then show this statement, because I own this Statement in 4 different languages and in none of them does Dan Heng mention that it is the real Nanook

And for the last time, Herta never quoted this, this is only the English version and it is not a faithful translation
Dan Heng confirmed that Phainon hurted THEM, THEM here refers to the real Nanook
 
@Voidnether and @PedjaTarzan, you two guys better stop arguing with these guys that you having a heated argument, their arguments and skepticism are on the same level as the people on Reddit and Spacebattles Forum, they are questioning entire game modes that were created to explain the most important events of game's lore and even on-screen feats, lol, It's useless to argue with these guys, they'll question everything but they'll never give any solution to solve the supposed "problem" of the current scaling
Let me have my own fun bro, I've never had this much fun since Genshin. Even if I actually wanted it, I could've just send them off to RVT since they were the one being antagonistic first as what I was doing were just purely self-defense, it's fun screenshotting what these mf said then making fun about it off-site

No one would believe them anyway when they chose to believe Mare, can't interpret anything and called those characters that actually knew as illiterate including me

The more this kept going on, the more no one is going to believe them and just consider them a laughingstock so even if they were to go against, like who would care bro you're just saying nothing 😭💔
 
Let me have my own fun bro, I've never had this much fun since Genshin. Even if I actually wanted it, I could've just send them off to RVT since they were the one being antagonistic first as what I was doing were just purely self-defense, it's fun screenshotting what these mf said then making fun about it off-site

No one would believe them anyway when they chose to believe Mare, can't interpret anything and called those characters that actually knew as illiterate including me

The more this kept going on, the more no one is going to believe them and just consider them a laughingstock so even if they were to go against, like who would care bro you're just saying nothing 😭💔
You threw insults first lmao. Who’s being antagonistic again? And yes I trust what the game literally tells us when it decides to exposition dump. i mean that woman literally works on that station and is a literal researcher. You are actually dense asf

“Umm i don’t like the evidence because it hwurts my fwelings-🤓
 
@Voidnether and @PedjaTarzan, you two guys better stop arguing with these guys that you having a heated argument, their arguments and skepticism are on the same level as the people on Reddit and Spacebattles Forum, they are questioning entire game modes that were created to explain the most important events of game's lore and even on-screen feats, lol, It's useless to argue with these guys, they'll question everything but they'll never give any solution to solve the supposed "problem" of the current scaling
I will report that guy to RVR right now
 
They didn't do that with Amphoreus, no?
If you have an list who excludes Herta I would like to see it.
Dan Heng confirmed that Phainon hurted THEM, THEM here refers to the real Nanook
...Seriously? Wait, I knew the VA wasn't properly translated, but to this extent?
The original text just says "It's Nanook", you can verify this since 是 shì is the verb "to be" and 納努克 Nà nǔ kè is Nanook's name. The VA literally adds two words, which shouldn't be prioritized over the CN version
 
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It's useless to argue with these guys, they'll question everything but they'll never give any solution to solve the supposed "problem" of the current scaling
I don't question for fun, quite the contrary, I don't like it.
I'm simply doing this because it seems wrong or exaggerated to me. I'm also looking for solutions, I can't really speak to speed imea since it's an area I don't cover. However, there are things we can improve. For example, I still don't understand why the Aeons don't have two Keys. There's literally enough evidence to separate them. Another thing, even if I don't know if it's planned, the Chrysos Heirs should give all their abilities to Nanook since they is a product of Destruction (except maybe Time, I think it's more linked to Remembrance)


Honestly, this verse has already hit rock bottom and it's still going downhill, and the problem I have with HSR is the wank it gets...
The only thing I want is to improve this verse
 
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at this point i dont even know what yall are talking about anyway dan heng development is the most goated thing in hsr rn
 
at this point i dont even know what yall are talking about
I'm not sure anymore either, the only thing I remember is that there are improvements to be made in the verse, and also a few small things to downgrade (from my point of view)
anyway dan heng development is the most goated thing in hsr rn
I'd be lying if I said I didn't prefer Evernight and the tiny bit of Caelus/Stelle lore, but I really like DH's theme, he's a well-handled character
 
You threw insults first lmao. Who’s being antagonistic again? And yes I trust what the game literally tells us when it decides to exposition dump. i mean that woman literally works on that station and is a literal researcher. You are actually dense asf

“Umm i don’t like the evidence because it hwurts my fwelings-🤓
The staff could see who's being antagonistic first, also you trust them more than Herta or Zandar who actually knew something about Amphoreus? xdd

Ik my way around here bro, atleast 3 remarks that you did to me before I called you dumb in a joking way btw "You're so dumb I can't", never did once I made fun of you before that

Post in thread 'Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread' https://vsbattles.com/threads/honkai-star-rail-discussion-thread.153196/post-7319683
Post in thread 'Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread' https://vsbattles.com/threads/honkai-star-rail-discussion-thread.153196/post-7320332
Post in thread 'Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread' https://vsbattles.com/threads/honkai-star-rail-discussion-thread.153196/post-7320959

Yeah bro the staff could evaluate it for themselves who's being antagonistic first, I only decided to make fun of you because you weren't making any sense further after this. Like this is not the way you treat a knowledgeable member that actually knew things about the verse bro, I'm here for like a year and a half already whilst you were like last month, it's not really a nice behavior here man
 
@Zefkiel @Voidnether both of you stops, getting extremely heated over fictional characters isn't worth it
Yes, and provoking others for fun is trolling, and that is obviously very against our rules. 🙏
For the record, I really don't want someone like him here on this discussion thread so uh it would be nice if you guys could threadban him for sometime maybe like a week or so to prevent this from happening. It was like 3 remarks that he just attacked me personally instead of my argument, then I replied with "you're so dumb, I can't" obviously in a jokingly way then he went mad more after that and it spiraled to this so yeah. Would rlly appreciate it tho, I really can't do this anymore (It's worse than when I debated about genshin, so you'd have an idea how terrible this situation is and how tiring it is too for me)

Because they never once attacked me in a way like made remarks about it or just straight up attacked me personally instead of the argument I gave

I asked for a threadban for him cause even if I ignored it, it won't rlly help if he's just cluttering the thread later on so yeah this is kinda the best possible way I came up with and I don't think I have the patience to even ignore them if they're just going to ragebait me more by that point
 
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Wth happened here?
Something something about a Reddit powerscaler that types like Solacis here making remarks about me (Literally attacking me instead of the argument itself), called me illiterate and other things when he used Mare's statement and he decided to believe that instead of what Herta said about the same Nanook that watches over Amphoreus is the real one. There are legit hoyolab statements, Lygus saying Khaslana accomplished a great feat, last blessing of destruction stuff and DHPT saying "He actually wounded THEM?". It's impossible for the Nanook there to be an avatar to give Khaslana like Destruction's final blessing, with what Herta is saying too that it's the real Nanook
 
The staff could see who's being antagonistic first, also you trust them more than Herta or Zandar who actually knew something about Amphoreus? xdd

Ik my way around here bro, atleast 3 remarks that you did to me before I called you dumb in a joking way btw "You're so dumb I can't", never did once I made fun of you before that

Post in thread 'Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread' https://vsbattles.com/threads/honkai-star-rail-discussion-thread.153196/post-7319683
Post in thread 'Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread' https://vsbattles.com/threads/honkai-star-rail-discussion-thread.153196/post-7320332
Post in thread 'Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread' https://vsbattles.com/threads/honkai-star-rail-discussion-thread.153196/post-7320959

Yeah bro the staff could evaluate it for themselves who's being antagonistic first, I only decided to make fun of you because you weren't making any sense further after this. Like this is not the way you treat a knowledgeable member that actually knew things about the verse bro, I'm here for like a year and a half already whilst you were like last month, it's not really a nice behavior here man
Calling your point “nonsensical” isn’t antagonistic lmao. You have a very small and fragile ego if you took it that way. Your emotional regulation is very poor, work on that kid and stop trolling 😭

Anyway I brought a direct quote from the game which you straight up ignored because you didn’t like it. Do you want me to post it again?

“Beneath the Aeons: The Low-Dimensional World As A Will and A Surface Phenomenon talks about us living in a low-dimensional world, and the Aeons we sense are simply projections from a higher dimension.”

The story straight up disagrees with you, you can stop responding to me now
 
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@Zefkiel calling someone's points nonsense isn't exactly good, and calling it pathetic is definitely not good either. I understand things get heated, but please refrain from that behaviour.

@Voidnether Zefkiel is calling your points nonsense more than attacking you, although the comment about a pathetic attempt is bad. All the same, you escalated it when calling them dumb. Please don't do that.

Both of you, stop this behaviour.
 
@Zefkiel calling someone's points nonsense isn't exactly good, and calling it pathetic is definitely not good either. I understand things get heated, but please refrain from that behaviour.

@Voidnether Zefkiel is calling your points nonsense more than attacking you, although the comment about a pathetic attempt is bad. All the same, you escalated it when calling them dumb. Please don't do that.

Both of you, stop this behaviour.
He made remarks about it three times, I said that in the way that I wasn't really serious about it because there's a difference in the tone with how I said that to him and the remarks he made before I even got into that conclusion. Even until now, he's still the one provoking stuff like that when I talked with you guys. This is the reason why I asked him to get threadbanned temporarily
Calling your point “nonsensical” isn’t antagonistic lmao. You have a very small and fragile ego if you took it that way. Your emotional regulation is very poor, work on that kid and stop trolling 😭

Anyway I brought a direct quote from the game which you straight up ignored because you didn’t like it. Do you want me to post it again?

“Beneath the Aeons: The Low-Dimensional World As A Will and A Surface Phenomenon talks about us living in a low-dimensional world, and the Aeons we sense are simply projections from a higher dimension.”

The story straight up disagrees with you, you can stop responding to me now
You're the one who made those remarks three times, never did once I did the same to you in that time. It's not even in the story by the way, it's a random NPC dialogue back in 1.0 that only talked about the books, we only used that because of the stuff with Lan and Nous. Stop ragebaiting bro
Just read the full dialogue, even the MC itself didn't believe it and kept calling her insane
 
The arrow dialogue represents the MC (Which is basically us), literally the dialogue was just the MC trolling Mare because she's in a way is just crazy/insane. We only used this as the scan was because of the things with Lan and Nous which shouldn't apply to Nanook in the first place because Herta herself confirmed that it's the real one this time. There are implications if it's an avatar, like Lan descending to the physical plane or Nous in their old man body or Aha shapeshifting then blowing up the Astral Express. There are implications.

If this is the way youre just trying to argue, this is just the 1:1 scenario with what happened there, like how is this a reliable information?

Like as long as youre happy man I guess
 
The arrow dialogue represents the MC (Which is basically us), literally the dialogue was just the MC trolling Mare because she's in a way is just crazy/insane. We only used this as the scan was because of the things with Lan and Nous which shouldn't apply to Nanook in the first place because Herta herself confirmed that it's the real one this time. There are implications if it's an avatar, like Lan descending to the physical plane or Nous in their old man body or Aha shapeshifting then blowing up the Astral Express. There are implications.

If this is the way youre just trying to argue, this is just the 1:1 scenario with what happened there, like how is this a reliable information?

Like as long as youre happy man I guess
On second thoughts, I'll just remove this scan entirely when there's a better one through the quest description itself about simulated universe as a whole. There's no way the bar is this low to the point we even used this as the scan
 
He made remarks about it three times, I said that in the way that I wasn't really serious about it because there's a difference in the tone with how I said that to him and the remarks he made before I even got into that conclusion. Even until now, he's still the one provoking stuff like that when I talked with you guys. This is the reason why I asked him to get threadbanned temporarily

You're the one who made those remarks three times, never did once I did the same to you in that time. It's not even in the story by the way, it's a random NPC dialogue back in 1.0 that only talked about the books, we only used that because of the stuff with Lan and Nous. Stop ragebaiting bro
Just read the full dialogue, even the MC itself didn't believe it and kept calling her insane
Dude told you to stop yet you’re still going. Poor impulse control is a bad look. And now you’re spamming? Also trying to deflect from the fact you called me stupid? And admitted you were trolling?

Anyway you don’t get to dismissing evidence because you don’t like. Also, the fact you can’t see an obvious SUBJECT change is appalling. My quote and the part that comes after are separate. You again fail to properly address the point. I’m done responding to you if you’re going to troll and be disingenuous.
 
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Dude told you to stop yet you’re still going. Poor impulse control is a bad look. And now you’re spamming? Also trying to deflect from the fact you called me stupid? And admitted you were trolling?

Anyway you don’t get to dismissing evidence because you don’t like. Also, the fact you can’t see an obvious SUBJECT change is appalling. My quote and the part that comes after are separate. You again fail to properly address the point. I’m done responding to you
You were the one replying to me when you know, you just ignore it, I suppose? That's not really a way to end it if you're just going to provoke me and say "Oh, this will be the last so don't respond to this anymore" like if you don't wanna then don't provoke someone. It is as simple as that, also we have a better evidence to use than that one which just isn't reliable at all and it's practically the same thing


Also, it's completely irrelevant when you know, Herta stated that the one watching Amphoreus is the real Nanook. If you'd read the page about the Immortality (Type 9) stuff on the Aeon Physiology, you'd know there are several implications of it being an avatar or not (Lan descending to the physical plane, Nous choosing the old man aspect to talk to Fu Xuan, Aha shapeshifting to blow up the Astral Express later on and Xipe with THEIR embodiments)

So yeah, that would be all. The feat cannot be used anymore because the full description I gave you earlier has obvious implications of it being unreliable, and we'd prefer the more reliable ones when there's one in which I did and replaced them all. It's still the same things, just more clear tbh

If any mods were seeing this, just threadban him, he's obviously still provoking me with all those remarks
 
@Zefkiel calling someone's points nonsense isn't exactly good, and calling it pathetic is definitely not good either. I understand things get heated, but please refrain from that behaviour.

@Voidnether Zefkiel is calling your points nonsense more than attacking you, although the comment about a pathetic attempt is bad. All the same, you escalated it when calling them dumb. Please don't do that.

Both of you, stop this behaviour.
Agreed. Please calm down and try to be polite and respectful to each other. 🙏
 
1-B agenda
No
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While you guys are here. You guys should try honkai star rail fr
What's on the French HSR? Honestly, even in the French HSR community, very few people talk about PWS unless you're talking about insults...
If you'd read the page about the Immortality (Type 9) stuff on the Aeon Physiology, you'd know there are several implications of it being an avatar or not (Lan descending to the physical plane, Nous choosing the old man aspect to talk to Fu Xuan, Aha shapeshifting to blow up the Astral Express later on and Xipe with THEIR embodiments)
In that sense I don't really see why your argument would make sense, the game itself cites that Nanook "appears" as a dark-skinned man with golden eyes...

The Aeon that presides over the Path of Destruction. THEY were born from Adlivun as the world fell.
THEY often appear as a human male with dark skin and golden eyes.


Furthermore, you are directly contradicting the justification for immo type 9. This justification literally states that the true form of the Aeons is something that finite entities are INCAPABLE of visualizing because THEY are beyond perception...

This is something I forgot to say at the time when I was told that avatars are in no way inferior to their TFs and therefore keep the same AP, while the current scaling of Aeons literally tells you the opposite
 
What's on the French HSR? Honestly, even in the French HSR community, very few people talk about PWS unless you're talking about insults...

In that sense I don't really see why your argument would make sense, the game itself cites that Nanook "appears" as a dark-skinned man with golden eyes...

The Aeon that presides over the Path of Destruction. THEY were born from Adlivun as the world fell.
THEY often appear as a human male with dark skin and golden eyes.


Furthermore, you are directly contradicting the justification for immo type 9. This justification literally states that the true form of the Aeons is something that finite entities are INCAPABLE of visualizing because THEY are beyond perception...

This is something I forgot to say at the time when I was told that avatars are in no way inferior to their TFs and therefore keep the same AP, while the current scaling of Aeons literally tells you the opposite
It was worded like this before:
Aeons' avatars, THEIR physical forms, are simply projections of THEIR true selves.
I replaced it with this:
Aeons' in the Simulated Universe is merely a simulated version of the Aeon, as THEIR true selves reside in the metaphysical realm
If you have a problem, that's with Enryu, I only replaced this part only. I still kept the justifications even in the Aeons' AP, I only replaced like the scans and added references
 
It was worded like this before:
I replaced it with this:
I'm not talking about that, but about this
« and the inner forms of THEMSELVES are true infinity beyond perception,[5] »

If you have a problem, that's with Enryu, I only replaced this part only. I still kept the justifications even in the Aeons' AP, I only replaced like the scans and added references
Yeah I'll look into this issue later, some things need to be clarified
 
I feel like someone should make a CRT over 1-B paths. This discussion is going to lead nowhere otherwise.
 
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