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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
It just hasn’t gone anywhere and has been in bump hell. Also powertoscale was contesting the calc being invalid and his calc being superior but basically nothing has come of that cause it’s just two people saying “my calc is better” to each other with no staff weighing in

I’m just going off of what we currently have and what’s currently accepted
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Once again vs battles wiki staff proving why they are the superior users (they never do shit)
 
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Real

From experience, I was staff and I got burned out from everything in my life like the second I got any power so barely did shit lol
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I remember calling you for help on a thread and you left me on read

CastoriceTheFifth said:
How many of them only reads the death battle thread and how many of them are only light novels
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idk I know only a handful of green names that actually do what they are supposed to do and a handful of red names that show up in threads when asked to

the rest are there for their own verses or to wank others or both
 
Tony_di_bugalu said:
I remember calling you for help on a thread and you left me on read
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Yeah sorry man. I feel bad cause during that era I was basically burned out cause of my classes and work and only went on the wiki to just skim read things or say like one thing then dip. Tried to help a few times but that was like one day a week if even that and it would basically just be one thread then I’m off again. Barely did anything and that’s why I asked to retire cause I realized I wasn’t doing shit and I didn’t want people to go and ask me for help if I basically couldn’t/ultimately wasn’t going to.
 
No, I was joking I didn't intend to get you into this mood

It's fine, at the end of the day this is just a hobby and no one is obliged to do shit here if they don't want to no matter how the rest feel. Real life is always more important and should come first no matter what and if it causes to not have time here then it's obvious what to do.

Youre fine.
 
Bimbitesthedust said:
Ryu canonically is the only exception to the rules of UES as he actually shares the same physicals as his CT

Ryu's statement could be interpreted aswell to be the highest output within the culling games which mainly would give backscaling to Uraume's calc
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Ryu is stated to have the highest output in the culling games, yeah. I think the "highest output in history" was a mistranslation but don't quote me on that, nobody's ever substantiated that claim to me. They had said the translation was "highest output in the history of the date era". As I do not know Japanese and don't trust machine translation, I can't verify it.
 
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
How are his punches stronger than both when both have 7-c to high 7-c calcs
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Because he has the highest cursed energy output in history and his punches are as strong as his cursed technique
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Ryu would at most scale to low 7-c off of uraume’s only max output calc
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JJK follows limited energy system so character's physicals don't scale to their cursed techniques, correct me if I'm wrong
 
Bimbitesthedust said:
Ryu canonically is the only exception to the rules of UES as he actually shares the same physicals as his CT

Ryu's statement could be interpreted aswell to be the highest output within the culling games which mainly would give backscaling to Uraume's calc
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In the Kashimo backstory panel Kenjaku said someone (Ryu) in the Date province has the highest cursed energy output in history. Which includes Sukuna, so going by that, Ryu would be throwing Fuga level punches and one shotting Yuta and Sukuna himself.
 
Buraqibear said:
In the Kashimo backstory panel Kenjaku said someone (Ryu) in the Date province has the highest cursed energy output in history. Which includes Sukuna, so going by that, Ryu would be throwing Fuga level punches and one shotting Yuta and Sukuna himself.
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He is explicitly stated to have the same output

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The statement also refers to all The Players

Additionally with the nature of JJK the story often makes Gojo and Sukuna as outliers to stuff like this
 
Buraqibear said:
Because he has the highest cursed energy output in history and his punches are as strong as his cursed technique

JJK follows limited energy system so character's physicals don't scale to their cursed techniques, correct me if I'm wrong
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It’s said he has the highest output of the culling game players during Sendai and during the flashback it’s talking about just the Date province



Sukuna and Gojo wouldn’t be counted for either
 
Buraqibear said:
So if we take the Gojo calc from the high tiers away they'd get downgraded to 8-A in physicals because no one scales to Uraume's frost calm as it is a cursed technique, no?
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I explained this on the mechamaru thread.
When it comes to attacks that are just straight up shooting ce Ryu is the strongest. And iirc Uraume's frost calm is also just straight shooting ce. Its just that Uraume's ce happens to be frozen so it becomes ice.
 
Bimbitesthedust said:
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He is explicitly stated to have the same output

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The statement also refers to all The Players

Additionally with the nature of JJK the story often makes Gojo and Sukuna as outliers to stuff like this
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Yeah I guess you can exclude Gojo and Sukuna from the past statement since it was just an unconfirmed rumor Kenjaku heard, and if Ishigori does have the highest CE output among the culling games players, shouldn't he and Yuta be scaling above 2.9 KT of TNT from Uraume's frost calm and thus be small town+ level? Or is that not how it works?

And wouldn't he also scale to Uraume's larger ice structure from Shinjuku and therefore be definitively Town level?
 
Buraqibear said:
Yeah I guess you can exclude Gojo and Sukuna from the past statement since it was just an unconfirmed rumor Kenjaku heard, and if Ishigori does have the highest CE output among the culling games players, shouldn't he and Yuta be scaling above 2.9 KT of TNT from Uraume's frost calm and thus be small town+ level? Or is that not how it works?

And wouldn't he also scale to Uraume's larger ice structure from Shinjuku and therefore be definitively Town level?
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Yuta would downscale cause even the Rika beam was still below a granite blast and in terms of actual attacks Yuta was definitely weaker overall.

Upscaling depends on how close it is to the next “+” or full tier value. So kind of depends.

Iirc the 7-C calc had issues or something according to Tempest
 
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Yuta would downscale cause even the Rika beam was still below a granite blast and in terms of actual attacks Yuta was definitely weaker overall.
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They were comparable, Ryu just barely had the edge.
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Upscaling depends on how close it is to the next “+” or full tier value. So kind of depends.
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2.9 KT is already L7C+ no? Or would it be 3 KT? regardless it's only a 0.1 KT difference.
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Iirc the 7-C calc had issues or something according to Tempest
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Then why is it still accepted? Let me guess, it's in limbo? Like everything else.
 
Buraqibear said:
They were comparable, Ryu just barely had the edge.

2.9 KT is already L7C+ no? Or would it be 3 KT? regardless it's only a 0.1 KT difference.

Then why is it still accepted? Let me guess, it's in limbo? Like everything else.
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They’re relative but Yuta is still definitely weaker than Ryu to a degree which is why I think he’d downscale slightly

The tier for low 7-c+ is 3.4 KT so probably not enough to upscale.

Also yeah basically
 
Also I feel like a big issue with the 7-C calc is that the building being used to compare the height of it seems pretty far away
 
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
They’re relative but Yuta is still definitely weaker than Ryu to a degree which is why I think he’d downscale slightly

The tier for low 7-c+ is 3.4 KT so probably not enough to upscale.

Also yeah basically
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So essentially, the high tiers would still be L7C if the Gojo calc was removed? Good to know
 
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But its really the only reference we have


Also why aren't we using Sukuna's AP for melting the ice? is there a problem with the calc like a statement that he didn't actually melt the ice or something?
 
Buraqibear said:
So essentially, the high tiers would still be L7C if the Gojo was removed? Good to know
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As long as we keep using the Limited Energy System then yeah probably

Although we aren't even scaling characters to that feat in any of the profiles yet and I don't know why
 
Rogue_Forge said:
But its really the only reference we have


Also why aren't we using Sukuna's AP for melting the ice? is there a problem with the calc like a statement that he didn't actually melt the ice or something?
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The calc as a whole was brought into question so the value in that is also iffy
 
Rogue_Forge said:
As long as we keep using the Limited Energy System then yeah probably

Although we aren't even scaling characters to that feat in any of the profiles yet and I don't know why
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Yeah the characters aren't being scaled to it right now.
 
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