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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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Allat lore just to get instantly destroyed by him is crazyKashimo when fifty pandas call upon their sisters
(He's cooked)
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Mimiko and Nanakos abilities in jjk seen kinda OP to me, anyone else agree? I mean hanging anyone isn't all that powerful but manipulating anything in a photo and it becomes real seems insanely overpowered
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The only issue with it is that it takes some time to edit the photos and she probably cant do it if it isn't a good quality image
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Kashimo did NOT beat Panda with all that difficulty
Is Panda top 20 now?
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I dont even remember how their abilities work or what they do
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Mimiko has voodoo doll type power
Nanako has the ability that when she takes a photo she can manipulate anything in it and it will happen in the real world
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straight from the wiki
Mimiko:
"Mimiko's technique allows her to hang her targets to death using a noose and a doll. Whatever is done to the stuffed toy is reflected on the target of the technique, with hanging being her preferred way of attack. It's also possible for her to attack other vital points of the target using the doll. Her ability allowed her to kill three Jujutsu High managers with ease."
Nanako
"Nanako's technique allows her to manipulate a photographed subject that she captures an image of using the camera on her cellphone. She once used it on herself to move from one area to another, but the process tired her out quickly"
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Nanako also put out Jogo's flames and possibly healed all the damage it did to them
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why do you have Kusakabe scaling to the special grades btw?
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Took hits from and damaged sukuna
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Does this wiki still allow things that do that little damage to scale? I'm surprised, figured that woulda been shot down by now
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He did more damage than some of the heavy hitters and fully parried a slash
Although idk why he scales to 1.7 kilotons when the only low 7-C feat would be 1.3 kilotons
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he did papercuts like, at best, every other heavy hitter did more
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Actually they were pretty big cuts and Sukuna already massively upscales from 1.3 kilotons, also deflecting and tanking slashes is hard for even heavy hitters
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Yuta and Yuji tanking several cleaves and dismantles while also straight up mutilating sukuna (Yuta cut his arms like thrice and ripped his second tongue out while Yuji exploed half of his face along with a lot of black flash power post awakening)Actually they were pretty big cuts and Sukuna already massively upscales from 1.3 kilotons, also deflecting and tanking slashes is hard for even heavy hitters
Maki, likewise, tanked cleaves to the head/face and a couple of black flashes (granted those put her to sleep but still)
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Kusakabe still scales
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The sword, a force multiplier, is literally breaking apart on Sukuna's skin. These are papercuts that are skin level at best, and they get healed by Sukuna instantly. By a Sukuna who can barely use RCT.Actually they were pretty big cuts and Sukuna already massively upscales from 1.3 kilotons, also deflecting and tanking slashes is hard for even heavy hitters
Kusa was impressive, but he absolutely does not scale. His reaction speed with his simple domain ONLY can scale. Not his AP or his dura. When hit with dismantles, he was taken out immediately.
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Cause jackpot Hakari gets shredded by UraumeWhy is Hakari not Small Town in Base? Jackpot should be just 7-C
Physically he isn't too much stronger than Yuji (they can trade blows)
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He survived some of the Ice attacks, even in Base. Additionally the freezing method is basically a durability negation
Yuji couldn't even hurt Hakari (when do they trade blows?) while each punch from Hakari was doing this kind of shit. He has the same reaction to Blue punch as Yuta and survived attacks from Kash
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Oh yeah I forgot
Yuji, explicitly did not fight back and was just taking dozens of punches
CG Yuji is not taking dozens of Small Town level punches when 16 finger Muguna made him cough up blood
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16 Finger Meguna being physically weaker than the Low 7-C Yujikuna
So no he cant both Take dozens of Low 7-C attacks and also get one shot by one Low 7-C attack
So no he cant both Take dozens of Low 7-C attacks and also get one shot by one Low 7-C attack
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He does fight back in the building. He makes this very clear even going as far as comparing it to the Shibuya fight.
Additionally, Yuji did tank kicks and attacks from Yuta as far as I remember. He isn't that far off from Yuta to the point of a one shot, then we have the panel I posted of Hakari and Yuta admiting that they took the SAME damage from the SAME attack
What about Base Hakari surviving and tanking numerous attacks from Base Kash? He should have been one shotted according to you
So Base Hakari has equal durability to Yuta according to both of them, was capable of eating a dozen of Kash's punches and took no damage from a CG Yuji's attack. I don't see why he is ranked below Yuta who has very similar performance against Yuji
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They literally didn't even fight in base, I reread every chapter and every time Hakari is in base he goes into jackpot immediately afterwards OR gets one shot by electricity (But that happens in jackpot too so eh)
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Yuta was massively holding back and explicitly blitzed and knocked out Choso who shouldn't be insanely weaker than CG Yuji
Also Gojo was 100% holding back against both of them so this cant really be used as a featWhy is Hakari not Small Town in Base? Jackpot should be just 7-C
If he wasn't they would both be Large Town level IN BASE
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... Huh? Chapter 187. Base Hakari vs Kash fight in their domains. He eats a bunch of kicks, elbows and punches.
Okay, Hakari was also holding back then because he wanted to see Yuji's fever. Unless I remember wrong didnt Yuta say he already knew killing Yuji would be hard? So its not like he was holding back "massively"
So they took the SAME damage from the SAME attack. It doesn't matter if Gojo only flicked them, the panel itself is very straight forward way to show how relative Yuta and Hakari are
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No, Yuta was holding back or else he would have blitzed just as he had done to Choso
Choso, as I said, isn't so much weaker than Yuji that one gets blitzed and the other doesn't
There is no conformation they took the same level of attack, Gojo would only hit them with the amount they can handle, he wouldn't hit his students with something that could kill them
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Strongest Sorcerer Fights A Singer (Gojo vs Uta)
Speed equalized, 100 meter starting distance, Gojo is bloodlusted, SBA otherwise Gojo Satoru: Uta: Inconclusive:
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Wot? They took the "same" attack and had similar reactions to it. NOWHERE THERE says they took the same damage from that attack or that Gojo hit them both with the same strength
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Come on now guys, the panel itself very obviously implies a relativity. Its quite insane to think Hakari took way more damage or Gojo hit him softer randomly.
Anyways, I dont know why you are ignoring Base Hakari eating a bunch of hits from Base Kashimo. That is a straight up Tier 7 feat.
Anyways, I dont know why you are ignoring Base Hakari eating a bunch of hits from Base Kashimo. That is a straight up Tier 7 feat.
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Issue is that JJK scaling rn on the wiki is a bit weird
additionally CRT's n such have been happening including one for the UES of it, one for anime canonicity and one for pre awaken gojo scaling
Now to discuss on hakari, his base should scale in relativity to the heavy hitters in base like pre awakened Yuji and base Yuta. Maki also has a similar issue but all four should scale relatively simply in base atleast at the same level
Maki has been able to fight weakened Sukuna and everytime Hakari is in jackpot he's begun to overwhelm base kashimo easily and has bullied Uraume by treating them to WWE moves whilst additionally being able to take hits and not die from base kashimo in base
most of Kashimo's ap and power in base comes from the lightning discharge as its a highly powerful bolt that pierces hard.
Now in regards to the gojo thing I think its more of a confirmation that Gege inteneded for Hakari and Yuta to be in a similar relativity atleast in base as both can take a punch from Gojo with Similar results
With that out of the way no Gojo was not hitting at max power on Yuta and Hakari
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The panel is to vague on all accounts,
Was yuta in his 5 min mode? Was Hakari in JP? Were they both in base? One in super mode and the other not?
Also, wot? Hakari, in JP, was getting torn every couple of exchanges and when he lost JP and had to open the domain again he had to reroll a couple of times when Kashibum was nocking his ass around
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Oh for sure, even annoyed Gojo one shotted Uraume. I was moreso using it to say they are relative in durability.
Yuta's 5 min mode only gives haxes right? I dont remember it boosting stats. JP Hakari wouldnt barf from that punch, I think its obvious what Gege is trying to tell us. Let me remind you this scaling is supported by like fcking 5 other statements lol
Hakari in JP while holding back was beating Kash, while in the domain he eats a bunch of his attacks. I know he rerolled but he was using it to heal AND land a Jackpot. If Hakari is Tier 8 then Kash would be punching like damn holes in him, atleast according to some of you but we clearly see Hakari eat the attacks with minimal damage (just losing balance since Kash heavily outskills)
I am gonna leave again when my Rick CRT passes, I am just chatting here rn because I am getting into JJK for the past few months. (Tf are they doing)
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the statement is truly vague however I think we can use that to infer similarity in power between the two (moreso as a starting statement)
In terms of the kashimo fight while Kashimo had the advantage in H2h, every hit Hakari landed would hit Kashimo hard and Kashimo has two levels of AP (His base physicals and the lightning Discharge). The Lightning Discharge is not something thats easy to tank due to the nature of it punching holes easily.
In Kashimo's fight against Hakari in the beginning Hakari had the trance which was why he wasn't as mentally active as before due to him I think finishing JP at that moment
Additionally Kashimo had begun to notice that when hakari was going all out, his blows were getting faster which indicated that Hakari could not only keep up but overwhelm Kashimo unless a discharge were to happen which obv is massive damage
Kashimo vs Hakari is the example of an immovable object vs an unstoppable force. Hakari is a physically bulky and strong guy with insane RCT vs Kashimo whos physically strong and fast who also has better H2H and a attack thats not easy to tank since its far more powerful than his physical blows
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5 min mode Yuta gets his CE reserves back to max but other than that no physical boost I don’t think.
Honestly this is just an issue of Gege clearly making most characters as rough equals or at least relative enough where they won’t get holes literally bored into them with each hit but us scaling them to various tiers so by our standards they would.
Maki is a relic of not changing stats during Shinjuku, the implications of heavy hitter Naoya, and teen Gojo being 8-A for a while. She should be relative to the others but it hasn’t been changed yet
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I think we may need to do an overhaul on character scaling and tiers since some characters are kind of weird in scaling rn
Cause theres a couple of examples of faulty or weird scaling
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