The Iron Giant vs Cinder Fall

[Frieza_force_soldier_100]

The Iron Giant has somehow ended up in Remnant. He has learned of the evil forces of Salem and has decided to try and put a stop to Cinder Fall, the biggest threat apart from Salem herself.

Battle takes place somewhere in Remnant. This is Post Beacon Cinder. Victory via any means. Edit: Speed equalized.

Iron Giant
Cinder Fall

 

[Arkansalter2]

Alright. Giant's main wincon is his energy cannon. It would be NLF to assume that his vaporization cannon is gonna vaporize Cinder. But going with Cider here. Giant is a big ass target and Iron Giant won't survive long enough for his energy cannon to fire. Hell, even if he did fire, the cannon explosion would just kill them both. As much as I like the Iron Giant movie, this thread might end up rotting into oblivion.
Cinder, low diff.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

It would be NLF to assume that his vaporization cannon is gonna vaporize Cinder

Huh? I'm confused on this thought...;

Small City level+ with Energy Cannon (Fired off an attack that created a massive explosion in the distance)

Multi-City Block level (Took hits from Neopolitan), higher with Aura, Small City level, with Maiden Powers (Can take attacks from other Maidens who are equal to her)

Her base AP is far below this attack as well as her Maiden Power being weaker than the nuke as well. Even if they're within the same tier, is relatively close and likely enough to survive the energy output, The explosion from Giant's Energy Canon will produce heat and radiation that far outscales than whatever Cinder resists.. effectively melting and killing her on the spot. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Giant is a big ass target and Iron Giant won't survive long enough for his energy cannon to fire.

Unsure about this fact as;

At least City Block level, likely City level (While dismantled, its parts were still intact from a SLBM Nuclear Warhead, which should be comparable to the Titan-II Warhead, which would yield 9 Megatons)

Giant's Durability is still City level at the end of the day which is above Cinder's general AP. This wasn't restricted. He'll last longer than you think, enough so that he can launch his best attacks.

Hell, even if he did fire, the cannon explosion would just kill them both

?...;

• Extreme Heat & Radiation Manipulation (Survived point blank nuclear blast)

Resistance to Extreme Heat and Cold (Aura protects the user from sub-zero temperatures, allowing them to be encased in ice without being cold, walk through a blizzard in casual clothing<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cinder_Fall#cite_note-V6E5-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a>, and traverse the kingdom of Atlas, which resides in Remnant's North Pole,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cinder_Fall#cite_note-WoRAS-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> without wearing any protective gear, as well as extreme heat up to and including the heat of flames,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cinder_Fall#cite_note-V2E11-3"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a>, being blasted with steam<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cinder_Fall#cite_note-V3E4-4"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a> being struck by lighting for an extended period of time,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cinder_Fall#cite_note-V3E2-5"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cinder_Fall#cite_note-V5E13-6"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cinder_Fall#cite_note-V8E3-7"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a> and being submerged in lava without being burned<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cinder_Fall#cite_note-V3E5-8"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a>)

Along with having 9 Megaton Durability and the ability to resist the heat from a nuclear explosion which Cinder doesn't come close to in Heat Resistance.. unaccouting for the insane spread of radiation that the Energy Canon will produce.. I don't see why, based on the profile at hand, that Giant would die to his own attack. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Her base AP is far below this attack as well as her Maiden Power being weaker than the nuke as well. Even if they're within the same tier, is relatively close and likely enough to survive the energy output, The explosion from Giant's Energy Canon will produce heat and radiation that far outscales than whatever Cinder resists.. effectively melting and killing her on the spot. Correct me if I'm wrong.

His tank deletion cannon. Probably won't vaporize an 8-A person tho because NLF.

Giant's Durability is still City level at the end of the day which is above Cinder's general AP. This wasn't restricted. He'll last longer than you think, enough so that he can launch his best attacks.

8-B compared to 8-A. This is post Beacon cinder who is 8-A. I doubt he'd survive long enough.

Along with having 9 Megaton Durability and the ability to resist the heat from a nuclear explosion which Cinder doesn't come close to in Heat Resistance.. unaccouting for the insane spread of radiation that the Energy Canon will produce.. I don't see why, based on the profile at hand, that Giant would die to his own attack. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Sir, that is Low 7-B attack. That will blow her and Giant into pieces if shot point blank.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

His tank deletion cannon. Probably won't vaporize an 8-A person tho because NLF.

She probably can survive the force produced of the canon but she can't survive the heat produced by the canon. Her heat resistance doesn't appear potent enough to survive the ordeal. It's an explosion my guy, AP isn't the only application of an explosion, there's also intense heat. She'll get eviscerated by the heat produced, unless there's evidence of Cinder surviving sizable explosions that have nothing to do with solely AP. As far as I can see, her only heat resistant feat notable here is surviving lava which infact comes nowhere close to the heat that would be produced by a 50 Ton Blast.

8-B compared to 8-A. This is post Beacon cinder who is 8-A. I doubt he'd survive long enough.

Ummm no..? His Striking Strength is High 8-C, 8-B AP with the Tank Deletion Canon while his durability is 7-B for surviving a 9 Megaton bomb Sir. Which is infact City level.

Sir, that is Low 7-B attack. That will blow her and Giant into pieces if shot point blank

Sir, Giant has resistance to heat produced by nuclear blasts AT POINT BLANK RANGE (as stated in his resistances) as well as City level Durability. Not only is a Low 7-B attack unphasing to Giant's durability but he has the heat resistance required to withstand his own attack while Cinder cannot survive at all due to less durability and unfathomably low heat resistance. One so low that Giant's 8-B Tank Deletion 50 Ton nuke could vaporize her via heat, let alone his Low 7-B+ Energy Canon.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Cinder's heat is good. It's not facetank a 9 Megatron warhead good.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

And as such I believe Giant takes this comfortably. Cinder infact will be the one unable to do sufficient or even enough damage to put Giant down for good, meaning he'll survive for as long as eternity last, even accounting Cinder's heat attacks which will not phase Giant. On the other hand, Giant physically does not have the AP to take down a 8-A Cinder, realizing this, he'll lauch his signature explosives at her, nuking her effectively and turning her into good ol fried chicken. Giant's Low 7-B+ Nuke ATP would be overkill. I vote Giant for now until further arguments arise.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

And before one states this is a stomp. It's not. As accounted for her higher AP, Cinder also has a incredibly high LS advantage (Class G to Class 5) which works wonders. She'd be able to physically contend Giant even more efficiently, being able to rip off his limbs, joints and so forth. She could also freeze Giant to cold ice using her Maiden Powers if she so wishes as Giant has no resistance to such.

 

[OrangeFR]

RIP Multiverses FRA

 

[Arkansalter2]

Switching vote to Iron Giant. Maybe he might win this with his fraud ass Durability.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yeah for this exact moment IG FRA, but a 9-megaton SLBM? That's pretty funny.

 

[Frieza_force_soldier_100]

Current tally is four in favor of the Iron Giant: Fallen_Angelicx, OrangeFR, Arkansalter2, DaReaperMan.

 

[Frieza_force_soldier_100]

What with this revision going on, is this match no longer valid? I think the Giant could still maybe take more than one blow due to his regeneration, but I'm still not sure.

 

[Mickey1940]

How hot is the Iron Giant's Energy Cannon?

Aura in RWBY is able to facetank lightning and walk through lava completely unbothered

Also how spammable is it?

 

[Frieza_force_soldier_100]

The Giant is only seen using his energy canon once, so we don't know how "spammable" it is. From what we see, it only requires a few seconds to charge, and after using it, he can immediately fire other attacks from his other weapons if he so chooses (indicated by him pointing one of his other weapons right afterward).

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

How hot is the Iron Giant's Energy Cannon

Its a Low 7-B+ 4 megaton nuke. The heat would be comparable to that of real world nuke's heat and radiation. Which lava's heat nor the heat of lightning can match.

 

[Frieza_force_soldier_100]

A hit from the energy canon may be enough to kill Cinder, but the question is if the Giant can get it off. His ability to repair himself means that he could survive losing a few pieces of himself to Cinder, but I don't think he can survive if she destroys his head. He would have to shoot her before that happens.

 

[Mickey1940]

Its a Low 7-B+ 4 megaton nuke. The heat would be comparable to that of real world nuke's heat and radiation. Which lava's heat nor the heat of lightning can match.

how spammable/easy is it for him to use?

and does his internals melt from his own attack?

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

how spammable/easy is it for him to use?

and does his internals melt from his own attack?

It takes a few seconds to charge and has a accurate lock on target. And no.. his internals have nothing to do with the attack. I don't understand the ideology behind that-

 

[Frieza_force_soldier_100]

how spammable/easy is it for him to use?

and does his internals melt from his own attack?

From the clip I provided, you can see that it causes no internal damage, and it only takes up to several seconds to charge. It's not made clear if he can "spam" it though, as he only uses it once before being convinced to exit Weapon Mode.

As a sidenote, since you seem like you haven't seen the film, I would recommend it.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Low 7-B nuke or not, 50 Ton explosives or not. That heat is killing mistress Cinder.

 

[Mickey1940]

The Giant is only seen using his energy canon once, so we don't know how "spammable" it is. From what we see, it only requires a few seconds to charge, and after using it, he can immediately fire other attacks from his other weapons if he so chooses (indicated by him pointing one of his other weapons right afterward).

what's stopping cinder from shootingt he cannon before it fires

 

[Mickey1940]

It takes a few seconds to charge and has a accurate lock on target. And no.. his internals have nothing to do with the attack. I don't understand the ideology behind that-

it's moreso if he uses the cannon at close range and gets caught in the crossfire, do his joints and stuff melt

 

[Frieza_force_soldier_100]

it's moreso if he uses the cannon at close range and gets caught in the crossfire, do his joints and stuff melt

We don't know. We see the blast from a distance.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

what's stopping cinder from shootingt he cannon before it fires

They both get blown up in range as the explosion is covering Kilometers of the battle field in the split moment the explosion is triggered with Giant surviving simply because he can survive nukes, heat from nukes and radiation. As well as having High-Mid regeneration that lets him recover from being blown to pieces. In this event, Cinder dies of an explosive death. Not a good idea of thinking for Cinder ngl, especially if she's blasting an attack that she doesn't even know is this powerful... It's be stupid even.

 

[Mickey1940]

They both get blown up in range as the explosion is covering Kilometers of the battle field in the split moment the explosion is triggered with Giant surviving simply because he can survive nukes, heat from nukes and radiation. As well as having High-Mid regeneration that lets him recover from being blown to pieces. In this event, Cinder dies of an explosive death. Not a good idea of thinking for Cinder ngl, especially if she's blasting an attack that she doesn't even know is this powerful... It's be stupid even.

you didn't answer my question

Cinder sees the Giant charging a massive attack and just shoots the weapon and destroys it before it gets the chance to launch said attack

or just

fly up/away from the blast due to true flight

obviously I'm not saying that this would actually be how it goes down since I know nothing about the Iron Giant, hence why I'm asking all of these questions

 

[Mickey1940]

Not to mention, Cinder can just pin him down with her Class 5 Lifting Strength and just keep hitting him until he dies

The Iron Giant can reassemble itself with his parts, but if said parts were damaged beyond repair (like if one of his screws or smthn was snapped in half), can he still regenerate?

 

[Frieza_force_soldier_100]

Well, now that the Giant's durability has been downgrade to Large Town level+, I'm not sure if this is still a legit match. The Giant's canon could still kill Cinder, but she has enough AP to easily destroy him when going all out. I'm wondering how much his regeneration would help here.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

you didn't answer my question

Cinder sees the Giant charging a massive attack and just shoots the weapon and destroys it before it gets the chance to launch said attack

or just

fly up/away from the blast due to true flight

obviously I'm not saying that this would actually be how it goes down since I know nothing about the Iron Giant, hence why I'm asking all of these questions

And I'm saying that wouldn't end well. That's like putting match to a flame.. a tank full of gass even. The attack that is charged detonates upon impacting ground or coming into contact with another object which is visibly clear in the clip shown/movie. She shoots a Low 7-B attack at a charging blast that has Low 7-B+ explosion output at its best is the equivalent of striking a bull with a baseball bat. Shit doesn't go as planned, as she wouldn't be nullify the attack (as far as I can tell) but diverting it.

 

[Frieza_force_soldier_100]

Not to mention, Cinder can just pin him down with her Class 5 Lifting Strength and just keep hitting him until he dies

The Iron Giant can reassemble itself with his parts, but if said parts were damaged beyond repair (like if one of his screws or smthn was snapped in half), can he still regenerate?

Yeah, if his parts get damaged beyond repair, he shouldn't be able to reassemble them.

 

[Frieza_force_soldier_100]

Does anyone want to change votes now that the IG's durability has been downgrade to Large Town level+?

 

[Mickey1940]

Does anyone want to change votes now that the IG's durability has been downgrade to Large Town level+?

still voting for Cinder cuz now she's significantly stronger and has insane lifting strength in comparison, a few arrows to the face (or just punching him a few times) should put him down real ez

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Does anyone want to change votes now that the IG's durability has been downgrade to Large Town level+?

Naur, my vote still goes to Giant for my reasons above

 

[Mickey1940]

Naur, my vote still goes to Giant for my reasons above

your reasons above is that the giant shoots a massive energy cannon that can't kill cinder without heat, meanwhile the giant survives

but now the giant can't survive the blast either since he just gets caught in the blast and dies

or Cinder just pins him down and disassembles him before he fires it, or just dodges

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

your reasons above is that the giant shoots a massive energy cannon that can't kill cinder without heat, meanwhile the giant survives

but now the giant can't survive the blast either since he just gets caught in the blast and dies

or Cinder just pins him down and disassembles him before he fires it, or just dodges

Giant still has access to explosives that have output up to 8-B (heat argument go brr) which can spammed but ig she could detonate those before they reach her. Good point, looking back it really does seem she has the upper hand now since the downgrade so I'll vote her. Off topic but wdym by dodge... Sir, the moment this ball of energy impacts an object, hits ground or falls, A couple kilometers wide area of the battle field is getting vaporized- there's no stopping this attack unless she stop it from impacting anything which is unlikely because she's gonna have to tackle Giant head on to stop him from launching the attack.

 

[OrangeFR]

I don’t think this match is valid anymore since Cinder just one shots.

 

[Mickey1940]

Giant still has access to explosives that have output up to 8-B (heat argument go brr) which can spammed but ig she could detonate those before they reach her. Good point, looking back it really does seem she has the upper hand now since the downgrade so I'll vote her. Off topic but wdym by dodge... Sir, the moment this ball of energy impacts an object, hits ground or falls, A couple kilometers wide area of the battle field is getting vaporized- there's no stopping this attack unless she stop it from impacting anything which is unlikely because she's gonna have to tackle Giant head on to stop him from launching the attack.

Cinder's probably zipping around his head like a damn housefly so her's probably shooting up, and if he shoots up then it just misses cuz it doesn't impact an object

 

[Frieza_force_soldier_100]

I don’t think this match is valid anymore since Cinder just one shots.

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. I know his energy canon can still kill her, but is it a stomp in her favor since she (with her Maiden powers) can one-shot him with any attack, or would his regeneration still allow him to take a few hits?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Keep in mind tanking the 600 Kilotons actually dismantled him, so he's heavily downscaling in terms of his actual durability.

So yeah, Cinder stomps.

 

[Frieza_force_soldier_100]

Well, that ends this match.