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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Oh brother.

There was a comment on this thread a few days ago talking about people that don't bother reading the context of these comics and just makes assumptions based off a visual glance. This tweet just proves that point more unironcially.

Unrelated to this comment, for anyone curious, here are my late thoughts about Tom vs Wile: it was pretty good, but I would be lying if I didn't say that I think it's not as strong of an episode as Scooby Doo vs Courage. I feel like the episode could've benefited from Tom and Wile really going nuts with their toon abilities by taking turns manipulating the plot to mess with each other and other crazy stuff like that. And I get that Tom and Wile aren't visually the type of characters to do shit like that, but I just feel like there was lost potential all around.
 
This stuff is why I need to eventually go back and read comics because I swear this brainrot makes me sick.

How do these people not reflect what they're saying? Like how can't they look at the mirror, and say "I think base spiderman is hyperversal" and realize they've gone down the wrong path in life?
Speaking as someone who's pretty familiar with Chuck (not like on a personal level or anything), this is pretty on brand for him and his ilk tbh
 
It's really funny how folks saying oh comic miles wins and shit when most of the time when you actually read the comics he's nowhere near herald level

Folks don't read for shit

This stuff is why I need to eventually go back and read comics because I swear this brainrot makes me sick.

How do these people not reflect what they're saying? Like how can't they look at the mirror, and say "I think base spiderman is hyperversal" and realize they've gone down the wrong path in life?
here was a comment on this thread a few days ago talking about people that don't bother reading the context of these comics and just makes assumptions based off a visual glance. This tweet just proves that point more unironcially.
hello

anways shit like this proves my point comics glazers will use terrible out of context moments of street levels characters to suggest they scale high despite getting rekt by characters weaker than heralds far more often
 

anways shit like this proves my point comics glazers will use terrible out of context moments of street levels characters to suggest they scale high despite getting rekt by characters weaker than heralds far more often
One of my favorite examples of what you're talking about is that one panel of Batman kicking the Spectre in the face floating around the internet. It looks impressive at first, but then you take the time to learn the context of that scene and you discover two things: Batman himself admitted that he didn't think that would work, and the Spectre stating in the next panel after that he let Batman do that to make him feel better about himself.
 
One of my favorite examples of what you're talking about is that one panel of Batman kicking the Spectre in the face floating around the internet. It looks impressive at first, but then you take the time to learn the context of that scene and you discover two things: Batman himself admitted that he didn't think that would work, and the Spectre stating in the next panel after that he let Batman do that to make him feel better about himself.
True!
 
hello

anways shit like this proves my point comics glazers will use terrible out of context moments of street levels characters to suggest they scale high despite getting rekt by characters weaker than heralds far more often
while this and everything you've responded to is true, I have one rebuttal

maintaining the agenda is top priority
 
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Going back to ask about the ultimate nullifier, if a character regenerated from a force which erases universes on not just an informational and conceptual level, but apparently to such a degree that it's beyond the binary of existing or being nonexistent, could they survive the UN?
 
Going back to ask about the ultimate nullifier, if a character regenerated from a force which erases universes on not just an informational and conceptual level, but apparently to such a degree that it's beyond the binary of existing or being nonexistent, could they survive the UN?
No. The UN at its peak could erase Multi-Eternity, which is conceptually beyond Universal Eternity, which is conceptually beyond the In-Betweener, who is the “concept of concepts” and is beyond and between all dualities, abstract or concrete.
 
Apparently Abraxas survived according to recent comics, which would be funny if there are no catches to that lol
 
Apparently Abraxas survived according to recent comics, which would be funny if there are no catches to that lol
No he died. the only reason he's back now is because he was brought back by the Secret Wars 2015 cosmology reset, which adds up given his completely different design (so much so that you wouldn't even know if it wasn't directly stated) and the fact Eternity is now the Eighth Cosmos, reborn from his previous incarnation as the Seventh
 
No he died. the only reason he's back now is because he was brought back by the Secret Wars 2015 cosmology reset, which adds up given his completely different design (so much so that you wouldn't even know if it wasn't directly stated) and the fact Eternity is now the Eighth Cosmos, reborn from his previous incarnation as the Seventh
I mean if thats the true reason, then it means that Ullie Nullie's erasure can be overcome if cosmology reset restored him. Unless this is more of a new entity that is successor/reincarnation like being?

Not that Simon would be guaranteed to survive Ullie Nullie still, I suppose.
 
Anyway for anyone who cares, here's my current ranking of the 24-25' season (fully ordered this time, actually):

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Too lazy to update this, but I think I'm going to put WileTom joint 6th with AmonGuys. Not much to say, just a fun episode all around.
 
This stuff is why I need to eventually go back and read comics because I swear this brainrot makes me sick.

How do these people not reflect what they're saying? Like how can't they look at the mirror, and say "I think base spiderman is hyperversal" and realize they've gone down the wrong path in life?
You know that reminds me of a meme of a powerscaler in R34 saying it makes no sense for spidey iirc, as a hyperversal or whatever name tied to tier 1 not being reflected in the NSFW in question breaking their back or whatever during the deeds
 
anways shit like this proves my point comics glazers will use terrible out of context moments of street levels characters to suggest they scale high despite getting rekt by characters weaker than heralds far more often
Over half a decade ago in facebook communities many comic book peeps would be like this, i remember how one tried to argue Iron Fist is universal or scaling to phoenix or that spidey/wolverine could solo gaming characters leagues above them

Heralds too, while nowadays its not too crazy to see Thor or Hulk scale at where they are at now given they vary in powers from clear narrative indications too, people on these groups on that platform couldnt even prove legitimately they would scale to where they tried to scale them

One dude really tried using superman doing tier 5 or 4 feats to argue it beats dragon ball super universal level feats (while downplaying it to be non legit), barely i even got from him anything to make it arguable, they cant debate for shit
 
Subaru vs Kazuma, heck both even interacted in isekai quartet and all, being similar yet different too, idk what other isekai themed MU is even popular, rimuru vs ains ooal gown? Though its unfair
RImuru vs Ainz oal gown is crazy 😭

Subaru vs Kazuma is a stomp pretty much. Kazuma cant really do anything against Subaru
 
are we getting re zero on death battle anytime soon
Subaru vs Kazuma is the big one
Over half a decade ago in facebook communities many comic book peeps would be like this, i remember how one tried to argue Iron Fist is universal or scaling to phoenix or that spidey/wolverine could solo gaming characters leagues above them

Heralds too, while nowadays its not too crazy to see Thor or Hulk scale at where they are at now given they vary in powers from clear narrative indications too, people on these groups on that platform couldnt even prove legitimately they would scale to where they tried to scale them

One dude really tried using superman doing tier 5 or 4 feats to argue it beats dragon ball super universal level feats (while downplaying it to be non legit), barely i even got from him anything to make it arguable, they cant debate for shit
Spider-Man is the biggest headache to discuss when it comes to his tier because where he stops holding back he be above street tier by a good margin

But even with big heavy hitters for every moment of not dying or staggering them once ya get more moments of them whopping his ass making it clear he's not touching them in any manner

Fire lord vs spider man is the biggest reason why outliers exist for good reason and why narrative intentions matter
 
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Spider-Man is the biggest headache to discuss when it comes to his tier because where he stops holding back he be above street tier by a good margin

But even with big heavy hitters for every moment of not dying or staggering them once ya get more moments of them whopping his ass making it clear he's not touching them in any manner

Fire lord vs spider man is the biggest reason why outliers exist for godd read reason and why narrative intentions matter
Even old comics made a point how Spidey cant do anything to the likes of Hulk or Thor, heck in crossovers with Superman he breaks his hands punching him
 
True, but they used White Phoenix in the fight, who’s even above the Beyonder. I agree that Galactus is normally seen as relative (or even above) Jean with the Phoenix regularly though.
At least without factoring the WHR i agree
Well wasn't it also the White Phoenix who ended up fighting Enigma who is a Dominion? Wouldn't that imply that Galactus and WHR Phoenix are on the same level?

Also I'm kind of surprised that he doesn't have a page on this site. I know that his lore is uniquely confusing but you'd think that he'd get one as the, at the time, current big time cosmic threat to Marvel.
 
Well wasn't it also the White Phoenix who ended up fighting Enigma who is a Dominion? Wouldn't that imply that Galactus and WHR Phoenix are on the same level?
Loki in defenders said that the Black Winter (whom Cates had as the being who saw Galactus as Galactus saw his heralds) was like a toddler to Enigma. Galactus seems to predate on Dominions just like he does Celestials, but the “peak” of multiple Dominions working together and led by one seems to be a different story.

Also in the new Ultimates the future Guardians defeated an Ultron who reached Dominionhood off-screen and they got no-diffed by the Maker. Meaning Reed Richards is the true supreme being besides TOAA. ;)
 
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Loki in defenders said that the Black Winter (who Cates had as the being who saw Galactus as Galactus saw his heralds) was like a toddler to Enigma. Galactus seems to predate on Dominions just like he does Celestials, but the “peak” of multiple Dominions working together and led by one seems to be a different story.

Also in the new Ultimates the future Guardians defeated an Ultron who reached Dominionhood off-screen and they got no-diffed by the Maker. Meaning Reed Richards is the true supreme being besides TOAA. ;)
Honestly, I hope we get to see more of what Maker has in future Ultimates. Because that MF is heavily implied to have allied with Galactus and has celestials under his control?

I need Maker to have some form of beating that ***** ass Darkest Knight.
 
Honestly, I hope we get to see more of what Maker has in future Ultimates. Because that MF is heavily implied to have allied with Galactus and has celestials under his control?

I need Maker to have some form of beating that ***** ass Darkest Knight.
Yeah, Maker vs Batkek is a fun matchup. Unfortunately the latter wins since he survived being erased in a narrative singularity because he popped up in Fortnite unharmed.

Yes, this is based.
 
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Yeah, Maker vs Batkek is a fun matchup. Unfortunately the latter wins since he survived being erased in a narrative singularity because he popped up in Fortnite unharmed.

Yes, this is based.
It's a shame because I'd argue without TDK, Maker has honestly the bigger chance of winning. But bring TDK into discussion and Maker is honestly cooked. Worst that he doesn't have access to crazier gadgets like the ultimate nullifier like main Reed does.
 
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