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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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man, Mid-Godly is regeneration from the body, mind and soul, Simon has informational regeneration, which is beyond the soul one (and you know, a type 3 concepts, unless those are equal to mid-godly)
informational regeneration is High-Godly for Death battle, and Simon has that.
like the literal definition of High-godly is basically being able to regenerate from your information getting erased (and Nia was doing that for a week)
Depends on if we inherently consider informational EE to also contain abstractions like mind and soul, otherwise it's just very high potency spatial EE. Iirc Conceptual EE does.
 
Kamina was pretty much still being able to go into the multiverse laberynth.
Yeah, I figured that there was some kind of after-life given that everyone who died shows up in the multiverse labyrinth, I just don't know if Nia would be there.
 
Depends on if we inherently consider informational EE to also contain abstractions like mind and soul, otherwise it's just very high potency spatial EE. Iirc Conceptual EE does.
i mean information also includes the information of concepts, because even concepts are information in someway (more fundamental at least)
 
i mean information also includes the information of concepts, because even concepts are information in someway (more fundamental at least)
It depends. I’m not sure we would accept Nia’s regeneration as High-Godly here since she was being tortured by Anti-Spiral interacting with her mind and extracting information from her so he would know more about the Spiral Races, and she was able to heal herself from remembering past memories. This wasn’t an instantaneous process of erasure of all her information and it’s not like her information being erased was on a higher conceptual level than type 3, as the other Spiral Warriors remembered her and she still existed in other times and spaces.
 
Simon at best wanked mode has Mid-Godly since AS could casually destroy type 3 concepts (uh...breasts) and couldn't erase Nia. That means any character with Plot level erasure or mid-godly regen neg can just get rid of him before he catches up. (Death Battle scaled him to High 1-B through the "transcend all dimensions" from Databook, but considered his Absorption + RE able to break through R>F into 1-A, since Avant Simon could go from fictional 2-D into real world 3-A).

TLDR: High-Godly regen/Plot level erasure/Mid-Godly regen negate + being 1-A or above: Simon gets to see Kamina and Nia.
man, Mid-Godly is regeneration from the body, mind and soul, Simon has informational regeneration, which is beyond the soul one (and you know, a type 3 concepts, unless those are equal to mid-godly)
informational regeneration is High-Godly for Death battle, and Simon has that.
like the literal definition of High-godly is basically being able to regenerate from your information getting erased (and Nia was doing that for a week)
Marvel abstracts are conceptual entities with absolute bullshit levels of immortality which the Nullifier has no problem bypassing
 
It depends. I’m not sure we would accept Nia’s regeneration as High-Godly here since she was being tortured by Anti-Spiral interacting with her mind and extracting information from her so he would know more about the Spiral Races, and she was able to heal herself from remembering past memories. This wasn’t an instantaneous process of erasure of all her information and it’s not like her information being erased was on a higher conceptual level than type 3, as the other Spiral Warriors remembered her and she still existed in other times and spaces.
that just seems to be a very specific way for her to regenerate from getting erased on a informational level, like, how are characters with soul regeneration able to regenerate their soul?with their own soul, off course (or probably not a soul, a lack of soul?)yeah if you think about it, it is weird they are able to do any of that if they don't have any mind or soul.
 
Marvel abstracts are conceptual entities with absolute bullshit levels of immortality which the Nullifier has no problem bypassing
that is not very specific considering that bullshit levels of immortality could just be immortality type 9
 
that just seems to be a very specific way for her to regenerate from getting erased on a informational level, like, how are characters with soul regeneration able to regenerate their soul?with their own soul, off course (or probably not a soul, a lack of soul?)yeah if you think about it, it is weird they are able to do any of that if they don't have any mind or soul.
Well to be fair Anti-Spiral wasn’t trying to kill her, just extract information from her. So the information he was extracting was with regard to her memories (type 1 information) which was the type she was regenerating. She still had a mind, it’s just that the Anti-Spiral was trying to pick that mind apart in order to gain information, and Nia was able to reconstitute the structure of her mind by focusing on the things she loved (very similar to actual torture victims).

The Spiral Warriors regenerate based on their minds and their capacity of thought, it’s why Simon in the Super Spiral Universe could just supply more and more mass for his thought-body when he fought Anti-Spiral by thinking about it. Someone capable of erasing their minds on a higher level would be capable of bypassing their regeneration, which is ironically what Simon did against Anti-Spiral.
 
that is not very specific considering that bullshit levels of immortality could just be immortality type 9
The Griever at the End of All Things has immortality types 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, and 9 and even she was threatened by the Nullifier into backing down
 
Well to be fair Anti-Spiral wasn’t trying to kill her, just extract information from her. So the information he was extracting was with regard to her memories (type 1 information) which was the type she was regenerating. She still had a mind, it’s just that the Anti-Spiral was trying to pick that mind apart in order to gain information, and Nia was able to reconstitute the structure of her mind by focusing on the things she loved (very similar to actual torture victims).
The Spiral Warriors regenerate based on their minds and their capacity of thought, it’s why Simon in the Super Spiral Universe could just supply more and more mass for his thought-body when he fought Anti-Spiral by thinking about it. Someone capable of erasing their minds on a higher level would be capable of bypassing their regeneration, which is ironically what Simon did against Anti-Spiral.
Anti-spiral is a completely abstract entity, it is made of thoughts and information
 
Anti-spiral is a completely abstract entity, it is made of thoughts and information
True. If he came back from Simon killing him he would have High-Godly, it’s just that since he didn’t that means that Simon can bypass Mid-Godly and Anti-Spiral’s regeneration doesn’t get much higher than that.

To be fair this is all from my recollection of reading the Manga. If the AU they used for plot-stuff has narrative erasure as a thing then that would be legitimately High-Godly, it’s just that I don’t know about it.
 
I know people ignore it since she lost her fight, but Phoenix Jean is probably the strongest person on the show realistically.
Well Galactus has consistently been comparable if not outright superior to Phoenix Jean for decades. Even as recently as the Krakoa era you have the two being comparable in power.
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Well Galactus has consistently been comparable if not outright superior to Phoenix Jean for decades. Even as recently as the Krakoa era you have the two being comparable in power.
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True, but they used White Phoenix in the fight, who’s even above the Beyonder. I agree that Galactus is normally seen as relative (or even above) Jean with the Phoenix regularly though.
 
True, but they used White Phoenix in the fight, who’s even above the Beyonder. I agree that Galactus is normally seen as relative (or even above) Jean with the Phoenix regularly though.
Damn she's that strong and still lost? Sounds like fraud behavior to me tbh

(This is a joke)
 
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