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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Is STTGL even still considered a robot in the traditional sense? It's more like an energy construct, I think. Then again, the other versions of GL are still inside of it, so does that count? (Not trying to split hairs here, I'm just curious.)
STTGL likely not through it's ironically irrelevant since TTGL basically has all the similar high end stuff, which is the Multi-Labyrinth and kicking Anti-Spiral butt.
 
Is STTGL even still considered a robot in the traditional sense? It's more like an energy construct, I think. Then again, the other versions of GL are still inside of it, so does that count? (Not trying to split hairs here, I'm just curious.)
i mean TTGL is a abstract entity more than a robot
 
No, the Ultimate Nullifier is basically Galactus' big "No U" weapon that just destroys the entire Marvel Cosmology and then rebuilds it  expect it leaves out the concept of whatever it is the user wanted to kill with it.
that's not exactly what the Nullifier usually does, it's more just one of its highest capabilities which was necessary against Abraxas since he was a multiversal abstract. generally, it just super erases the target from existence but at its peak it can erase the entire multiverse which would likely be needed against Simon and would definitely work
 
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Galactus scales to his cosmology and has the ultimate nullifier that can kill Simon
Yeah, like even if you wanted to give Simon equal stats to Galactus (which he doesn't have), he has no answer to the Ultimate Nullifier.

I'm always gonna bet on Simon, I personally think he can do anything. But in an actual VS debate, Galactus clears.
 
that's not exactly what the Nullifier usually does, it's more just one of its highest capabilities which was necessary against Abraxas since he was a multiversal abstract. generally, it just super erases the target from existence but at its peak it can erase the entire multiversal which would likely be needed against Simon and would definitely work
Yeah I'm aware, but for someone unaware of its capabilities and how its relevant it's important to go for the most notable example
 
DB's usage of Beyond Dimensional shit is still vague enough that its hard to say what they think.
Yeah, from my understanding they chose to keep the line between High 1-B and High 1-A Intentionally very blurry.
I feel like they probably will ignore non-blatant Higher-D shenanigans if one of the fighters doesn't have it. (Simon being poster boy for dimensional scaling meant they couldn't avoid it tho.)
If we ever get a fight another fight between characters in 1-A to tier 0 i imagine they will just use custom parameters and compare hax like the Simon vs Kyle fight.
 
Yeah, like even if you wanted to give Simon equal stats to Galactus (which he doesn't have), he has no answer to the Ultimate Nullifier.

I'm always gonna bet on Simon, I personally think he can do anything. But in an actual VS debate, Galactus clears.
Nahnahnah, Gurren Lagann copium always wins. He'll use his drill and turn the nullifier into a mech, trust
 
Nahnahnah, Gurren Lagann copium always wins. He'll use his drill and turn the nullifier into a mech, trust
Hell yeah! Always have faith, brother!

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I know people ignore it since she lost her fight, but Phoenix Jean is probably the strongest person on the show realistically.
 
Yeah I'm aware, but for someone unaware of its capabilities and how its relevant it's important to go for the most notable example
Fair enough. either way, Galactus uber outscales to where it would take Simon a lot evolution to match him, the Power Cosmic alone is super broken and could likely absorb a significant amount Spiral Power along with being able to manipulate souls and concepts, and again UN gg
 
Does anyone know if that Miles vs Deku blog is still up? If it is, could they link it here? I wanna see what their arguments for Miles' higher stuff were.
 
that's not exactly what the Nullifier usually does, it's more just one of its highest capabilities which was necessary against Abraxas since he was a multiversal abstract. generally, it just super erases the target from existence but at its peak it can erase the entire multiversal which would likely be needed against Simon and would definitely work
basically is what Anti-spiral got when he fought Simon
 
Anti-spiral, you know, the guy got erased from all of existence completely, there is no past, no future, no alternate version of himself left.
 
Does anyone know if that Miles vs Deku blog is still up? If it is, could they link it here? I wanna see what their arguments for Miles' higher stuff were.
it's not but the general argument was that Miles scaled higher to other Spideys' country-continental feats, which themselves are calculated fine but likely wouldn't be seen as consistent by most people.
 
Simon at best wanked mode has Mid-Godly since AS could casually destroy type 3 concepts (uh...breasts) and couldn't erase Nia. That means any character with Plot level erasure or mid-godly regen neg can just get rid of him before he catches up. (Death Battle scaled him to High 1-B through the "transcend all dimensions" from Databook, but considered his Absorption + RE able to break through R>F into 1-A, since Avant Simon could go from fictional 2-D into real world 3-A).

TLDR: High-Godly regen/Plot level erasure/Mid-Godly regen negate + being 1-A or above: Simon gets to see Kamina and Nia.
 
Simon at best wanked mode has Mid-Godly since AS could casually destroy type 3 concepts (uh...breasts) and couldn't erase Nia. That means any character with Plot level erasure or mid-godly regen neg can just get rid of him before he catches up. (Death Battle scaled him to High 1-B through the "transcend all dimensions" from Databook, but considered his Absorption + RE able to break through R>F into 1-A, since Avant Simon could go from fictional 2-D into real world 3-A).

TLDR: High-Godly regen/Plot level erasure/Mid-Godly regen negate + being 1-A or above: Simon gets to see Kamina and Nia.
man, Mid-Godly is regeneration from the body, mind and soul, Simon has informational regeneration, which is beyond the soul one (and you know, a type 3 concepts, unless those are equal to mid-godly)
informational regeneration is High-Godly for Death battle, and Simon has that.
like the literal definition of High-godly is basically being able to regenerate from your information getting erased (and Nia was doing that for a week)
 
TLDR: High-Godly regen/Plot level erasure/Mid-Godly regen negate + being 1-A or above: Simon gets to see Kamina and Nia.
Would he see Nia? I took her going out the way she did to mean that she was erased entirely. Ergo, no after-life.

Man that's kind of a depressing thought.
 
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