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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

DJTiki said:
Well I understand the sentiment. The community makes up a small fraction and as far as nerd culture goes, kind of hard to ignore Hoyo if you've ever been to any live convention or pop culture store.

Hell, I don't think most of the highest donors I met at the live premeire for Omnidock were specifically prolific community members as they were just huge fans of the show. I'd say 95% of the fans aren't on these threads or on Reddit or in the Discord. They just see a new episode drop and stop there.

Edit: which isn't to say they should bw ignored. Most decisions we make are funneled through the perspective of how the inner fanbase might feel. Actually, people undersell how much we keep an ear out on these spaces. You guys saved the show.
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I definitely don’t doubt they have massive appeal especially in the anime scene, from what I’ve always seen the traveler wasn’t the most requested character to be on death battle first.

Still I appreciate the work you guys put in the show. You guys have been doing a great job. But one question I do you have is two fold.

Are you guys ever gonna bring back the Q&A blogs? And if not what about a doc for the calcs you have for an episode. I’m always curious considering ur numbers are always different from where other debating cites have them. (The sundisk being a example)
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
I was curious about something, if you wouldn't mind taking the time to answer a question of mine even if it's a bit strange in its phrasing

How does Death Battle determine when to do an episode if that makes sense? Like I imagine that the crew has a set schedule and combs through suggestions made by the community or by the team to turn into content, but I've always been curious to know if there's a planning process to an episode being suggested or if you guys just choose the match ups you find the most interesting.
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A variety of factors. We are humans and we need time to do things. Sometimes we hit marks where there should be a generally popular fight and sometimes we hone in on niche requests. Those are what community suggestions and large matchup pushes are for.

But sometimes researchers need more time to comb through literally every Superman comic or sometimes animators need time to animate two armies or hand draw every shot of two cartoon characters. Episodes don't come out until they're good and ready to reelase. So it's a combination of suggestions and who is the right person for the job's schedule. I can't personally pull a MahoShiggy edit out of my ass every 4 weeks.
 
DJTiki said:
A variety of factors. We are humans and we need time to do things. Sometimes we hit marks where there should be a generally popular fight and sometimes we hone in on niche requests. Those are what community suggestions and large matchup pushes are for.

But sometimes researchers need more time to comb through literally every Superman comic or sometimes animators need time to animate two armies or hand draw every shot of two cartoon characters. Episodes don't come out until they're good and ready to reelase. So it's a combination of suggestions and who is the right person for the job's schedule. I can't personally pull a MahoShiggy edit out of my ass every 4 weeks.
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i gotta ask tho regarding torrian is his episode sperate specifically or he can work on any of the KS mu we know of
 
NotoriouSoda said:
I definitely don’t doubt they have massive appeal especially in the anime scene, from what I’ve always seen the traveler wasn’t the most requested character to be on death battle first.

Still I appreciate the work you guys put in the show. You guys have been doing a great job. But one question I do you have is two fold.

Are you guys ever gonna bring back the Q&A blogs? And if not what about a doc for the calcs you have for an episode. I’m always curious considering ur numbers are always different from where other debating cites have them. (The sundisk being a example)
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Speaking personally as a Hoyo fan I think Traveler makes the most sense as a first outing into Genshin.

Xiao you'd have to talk about the demon clans which is super removed from Teyvat's history and would be a terrible first impression.

Raiden Shogun talks about a lot of subtext and lore about Archons and is barely onscreen doing anything cool (at the time her requests were big) This really goes for all the Archons

I think besides Traveler, Childe / Tartaglia would be my runner up pick for their first outing. Cool on screen action, connected to the main plot, has an actual rivalry with the MC.

Q&A blogs. If that were to happen, the community is gonna have to have a long conversation about not getting too angry over them. The reason we stopped was because we don't get paid to write them, we did it mainly to clear things up, and it was still a damned if we do, damned if we don't. I do like the idea of putting them on the website if we try Q&As again.
 
DJTiki said:
A variety of factors. We are humans and we need time to do things. Sometimes we hit marks where there should be a generally popular fight and sometimes we hone in on niche requests. Those are what community suggestions and large matchup pushes are for.
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Yeah that part makes the most sense to me. It would be unrealistic to create a set schedule of episodes when the vibe and what's popular at the moment is constantly, but I appreciate that you and the rest of the crew always take in community input and popular trends into consideration.

DJTiki said:
But sometimes researchers need more time to comb through literally every Superman comic or sometimes animators need time to animate two armies or hand draw every shot of two cartoon characters. Episodes don't come out until they're good and ready to reelase. So it's a combination of suggestions and who is the right person for the job's schedule. I can't personally pull a MahoShiggy edit out of my ass every 4 weeks.
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Hey if it means anything to you and the rest of the Death Battle crew: all those examples you listed made for some of the best episodes in the show's history and some of my favorite moments of all time in the community (like all of us here were going wild when Simon beat Kyle just this recent time). So if whatever's working for you results in the high quality content we've gotten over the last few years, I am all for it.
 
DJTiki said:
Can't answer that. Guess you'll have to wait and see lol
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fair enough
DJTiki said:
Grimmjow, Akechi, a huge spread of those battle hungry rivalry types. I like Grimmjow more. I just wanna use Grimmjow, he's my favorite Bleach antag.
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i see makes sense but speaking of bleach why has there been a lack of bleach mu on the show outside naruto given the series resurge in popularity and what bleach mu do you have any intrest in
 
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hmmmm
Bigdongus said:
That doesn’t bode well for QnA’s chances
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yeah i doubt it lol
 
DJTiki said:
Q&A blogs. If that were to happen, the community is gonna have to have a long conversation about not getting too angry over them. The reason we stopped was because we don't get paid to write them, we did it mainly to clear things up, and it was still a damned if we do, damned if we don't. I do like the idea of putting them on the website if we try Q&As again.
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OK, I get where you’re coming from because if they didn’t pay you to do that makes sense, but for getting mad about them blogs is kinda silly tho no? At Death battle core it’s still a research vs show on who wins a fight, no matter what you do even if the research is right (Kratos vs Asura) people are still gonna be mad if it’s not explained well. I assume for the calcs you put them underneath the same umbrella as the QnA blogs? I’m OK with them just being a different thing.
 
Tipper17 said:
fair enough

i see makes sense but speaking of bleach why has there been a lack of bleach mu on the show outside naruto given the series resurge in popularity and what bleach mu do you have any intrest in
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No specific reason, it just hasn't come up as often. Sorry, the answers to these are pretty boring. "It just wasn't." usually makes up a chunk of these answers.

I got into and caught up with Black Clover about a year ago to the date now. So I actually really wanna give Rukia VS Noelle a try. I think another BC episode should happen at some point.
 
NotoriouSoda said:
OK, I get where you’re coming from because if they didn’t pay you to do that makes sense, but for getting mad about them blogs is kinda silly tho no? At Death battle core it’s still a research vs show on who wins a fight, no matter what you do even if the research is right (Kratos vs Asura) people are still gonna be mad if it’s not explained well. I assume for the calcs you put them underneath the same umbrella as the QnA blogs? I’m OK with them just being a different thing.
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I mean I was sent death threats and p**n over Sailor Galaxia losing and Iron Fist losing was a whole deal for Ultra. So understandably we did end up getting uncomfortable with it. If it was on the website, I could see it working. It's the other guy's call if they want to give it another whirl.
 
DJTiki said:
No specific reason, it just hasn't come up as often. Sorry, the answers to these are pretty boring. "It just wasn't." usually makes up a chunk of these answers.

I got into and caught up with Black Clover about a year ago to the date now. So I actually really wanna give Rukia VS Noelle a try. I think another BC episode should happen at some point.
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alrighty thats fine
rukia vs noelle sounds cool

but given your ATLA fan how would you feel if you were given the chance to write that episode
 
Tipper17 said:
alrighty thats fine
rukia vs noelle sounds cool

but given your ATLA fan how would you feel if you were given the chance to write that episode
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I'd honestly be a little tense writing it. ATLA is very rich with its character depth and if I screwed it up as a longtime fan, I'd feel very bad about it. It's how I felt about Bowser vs Eggman.

Okay, back to work now lol
 
DJTiki said:
I mean I was sent death threats and p**n over Sailor Galaxia losing and Iron Fist losing was a whole deal for Ultra. So understandably we did end up getting uncomfortable with it. If it was on the website, I could see it working. It's the other guy's call if they want to give it another whirl.
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Damn, sorry to hear that, I can’t believe someone would do that about a fan made vs show. I know how bad it can get, I remember how absolutely horrendous the screwattack forums were.
 
DJTiki said:
I mean I was sent death threats and p**n over Sailor Galaxia losing
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You seriously have my condolences, Tiki. No one, regardless of how one feels about the result of an episode, should have to deal with being harassed and threatened to such extremes over fictional characters battling to the death.

I hope you and the crew know that for all the toxic shit that exists in the DB fandom, there's many more who appreciate everything you guys put out for us. Hope you have a good rest of your day.
 
DJTiki said:
I mean I was sent death threats and p**n over Sailor Galaxia losing and Iron Fist losing was a whole deal for Ultra. So understandably we did end up getting uncomfortable with it. If it was on the website, I could see it working. It's the other guy's call if they want to give it another whirl.
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That’s does suck that you guys had to deal with that from toxic people who can’t handle a fictional character losing a fight. So you have my condolences. I still think you guys should give it a shot. I personally love the blogs and it sucks we never got more from them, but again understandable if yall don’t want to deal with that again.

still does that mean calcs blogs are off the table
 
DJTiki said:
Thanks, y'all. Appreciate the support.

At the end of the day, everyone's just trying to keep the lights on making fictional characters fight. I promise you all that if you have a question about production, the truth is probably a lot more boring than the community theorises. Have a good rest of your days.
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Before you leave can I ask why Kyle recognizing Simon as his favorite character didn't really come up, either in the analysis or the animation?
 
DJTiki said:
I lurk in most popular facets of the community to gauge a variety of reactions. See what we did right / wrong / how DB can improve if I can help it. Also was bored.
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Oh, in that case can you ask the moderators of the server to look over my ban appeal? I swear, it’s been months and I still have not gotten a response.
 
Apex_Predator_GX said:
In Japan, Godzilla is considered a god-like being; even Goku does not have that level of popularity there.
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I wonder how big is the Japanese-speaking audience for Death Battle? The Venn Diagram of bilingual Japanese people who speak English and are interested in powerscaling AND have interest in most of the franchises that Death Battle features has to be pretty small, no?
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
Hey, you guys want to feel old about something? Sam vs Snake, this upcoming Monday, officially turns ten years old.

I was 13 when that episode came out, it's crazy to think how much time has passed and how much DB has come since those days.
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Dude I was 16 when that shit came out…
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
Hey, you guys want to feel old about something? Sam vs Snake, this upcoming Monday, officially turns ten years old.

I was 13 when that episode came out, it's crazy to think how much time has passed and how much DB has come since those days.
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I was in middle school during that
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
Hey, you guys want to feel old about something? Sam vs Snake, this upcoming Monday, officially turns ten years old.

I was 13 when that episode came out, it's crazy to think how much time has passed and how much DB has come since those days.
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less than 2 months until Goku vs Superman 2

I remembered watching it live. Can't believe it was so long ago.
 
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