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1-A Hal on vs wiki when
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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Weren't only the emanations of the new gods afraid? Keep in mind there are emanations of Apokolipse/New Genesis too, so them in Fourth World being afraid doesn't mean their Godheads are really worried.
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Unless they can give Goji low godly regen it won't matter.
Legit that's what gave Simon and Al the win.
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Pretty sure Composite Godzilla has a shit ton of hax and might even have High-Godly regen
We used to have a blog for Composite Godzilla on the wiki, not sure with what happened to it
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I mean in complete fairness: there's something very oddly thematic about Superman, someone who many would argue is the embodiment of hope and optimism, battling a nihilistic eldritch god that embodies despair and sees the very idea of life as being painful in nature and thus must be destroyed.
It reminds me a lot of Superman vs Mandrakk from Final Crisis, which is why I vibe with Superman vs Scarlet King.
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Bro just won a Simonillion dollars
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I honestly don't remember the justification, got it from the blog we used to have on the wiki, but i remember that there was one
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Also, I just realized something very crazy: the chances of SCP-682 beating Doomsday due to informational level regeneration and bullshit levels of reactive evolution and adaptability is actually very much possible thanks to what Simon vs Kyle showed us.
Oh what I would give to see another DC herald lose....
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Unless Post Flashpoint showed something crazy I don't know about, Doomsday is kinda all hype. Maybe you can bs scale him to Gog through the Kingdom Come stuff but that was always such a glaring outlier within the timeframe.
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I'm pretty sure he could use the green door which would be really really fun.
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Doomsday honestly dies. Like unless you scale him to Supes' absolute peak stuff, otherwise, I think he's mostly just above herald level. The arguments for him being SoG level have always been.... Iffy?
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I hate to sound like a goober, but it’s really only thematically cool if the hopeful Superman actually wins. But knowing SCP scaling it might just be a total stomp and having the edgy OC “nihilism is based” guy winning out sounds kinda cringe and a bit too much of a downer for most people.
Rather Superman lose to someone like 999 or 3812 since that’s at least thematically interesting and doesn’t leave a sour taste in people mouths.
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I really dislike the lack of gatekeeping that killed SCP. Whether it was the tumblr generation discovering it and ruining it, or then the versus debating community sucking its horror dry. It's like nobody understood the original point of SCP.
Same sort of thing is happening with Backrooms being overexplained.
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Aren't most gojis the same? I don't know a single Godzilla who could have High Godly.
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Can I be real for a second? I really do not like SCP when it comes to scaling and versus match ups. I'm sure there is a genuine, set in stone canon to it, but to a relative outsider it really just comes across like kids arguing on the playground.
"Actually my monster has the biggestest number and can do anything and is super scary and cool and invincible and -"
The only interesting SCP match I've ever personally seen is Wonder of U vs 096.
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Yeah I mentioned it felt quick despite the fight being 3min and 40 some sec
It be funny ngl
Current doomsday well future Doomsday became the time trapper so that could be something
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Also Superman face guys like darkseid who already does that so like nothing new for Clark
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Honestly Superman could win with DB's lack of distinction between Outer or high Outer. That would put both on even stats, and then it would just be based on actually interesting shit like abilities, resistances, feats, etc. They're not gonna give Scarlet King Boundless or """""layers""""" into boundless lol
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I'm a little conflicted on this episode. I think the fight looks very good but agree that the pacing is too fast. However, my real hang-ups are some of the writing, like skipping over Kyle's Ion phase in his analysis and more importantly, the scaling. We really do have to accept that matchups, especially comic ones, are analyzed independently of each other since the interpretation of DC cosmology felt really different compared to past episodes, especially against Marvel which has me curious where they'll scale Hulk.
Overall, while I don't agree with Simon winning, it didn't feel as questionable to me as Spawn beating Ghost Rider, but with how much pushback the "Heralds" have been getting nowadays, both of them seemed like they were only a matter of time.
Overall, while I don't agree with Simon winning, it didn't feel as questionable to me as Spawn beating Ghost Rider, but with how much pushback the "Heralds" have been getting nowadays, both of them seemed like they were only a matter of time.
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People thinking the Anti-Toon DNA gun is the only thing with good hax Wile has on his arsenal is funny
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Anti-Spiral is the actually the good guy in this scenario
Sadly, he loses since he doesn't have Simon's ability to grow. So, he's getting outstatted here
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Thoughts on Doomslayer vs Pelinal whitestreak?
I find it funny one connection between Slayer and Pelinal is comparing Slayer’s bunny to Pelinal’s twink bf
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SIMON THE CHAD WON!
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Anti-Monitor being the one to avenge Kyle would be the funniest thing ever.
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drill
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Knowing that canonically, AM would probably be thinking "**** Kyle, **** you, I'm taking your power" against someone like Anti-Spiral lol
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If they do use crossover scaling, I'm pretty sure it's a GG. Wile E. would downscale from the Speedforce via Roadrunner, who can consistently keep pace with (and IIRC even once outsped) The Flash
If the match ends up a tie, I don't think it'd be because of crossover scaling either. I think a more likely reason would be that they both end up sabotaging themselves so hard they lose.
In general I do think the coyote has it though. Tom has died from stuff any Looney Toon worth its salt would shrug off/regen from.
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Tom Vs Will E Coyote is next. It is certainly one of the machuos of all time.
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So for the fastest speed calc, do we know what the other 2 are? on the board
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Spongebob is now 2nd, and Megaman EXE (I think) is 3rd.
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I meant like before exe and after supes
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I mean. They said LE > Simon it’s just that Kyle can’t use it in the episode
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I like Herbert West vs SCP 046 and Mimic vs SCP 939, partly because they are just street-wall level fights
Honestly, any SCP MU that isn't cosmic is cool
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He can, just not to the level of control that can end the fight before Simon adapted
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Anyone that thinks anything from a story that wasn't built on powerscaler brainrot can stand up SCP-682 at its strongest doesn't understand or wasn't there to remember how absurd the Extended Canon / Meta Cosmology got.
Like, the original version of Tier 0 was effectively the baseline scaling for one(1) Narrative thanks to SCP-3812's infinite narrative-stack transcending still actually being contained in a single Narrative, while the actual big shtick like the Constants (Including SCP-682's Constant of Termination) were way beyond Infinite Layers of Patapheres or whatever nonsense, which were way beyond the Infosphere, which is way beyond a single Narrative.
You'd literally need meta-meta-qualitative superiority to even begin to argue that a character could stand up to that BS, and it's next to impossible to write a single story that could get anything that strong while also telling a meaningful message.
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Yeah, that's totally fair. I didn't mean to rain on anyone's parade, apologies.
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