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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20
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Yes, but Elden tried to argue that's it not
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Leave that. I have a serious doubt though. Why does rimuru not have NEP type 3? Because this quote says "An example of that would be a character who is able to think, and hence has a mind, but is stated to be immune to regular mind manipulation as said mind is paradoxically nonexistent in nature"
And rimuru's digital nature is made of information. And rimuru has resistence to information manipulation (type 2). So why does rimuru not have NEP type 3?
And rimuru's digital nature is made of information. And rimuru has resistence to information manipulation (type 2). So why does rimuru not have NEP type 3?
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that answers itself cause it makes no damn sense-
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no need to respond if you don't know the answer.
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Can't we focus on the basics before doing things like NEP 3?
For example, how many magic spells do we have that are not indexed?
For example, how many magic spells do we have that are not indexed?
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we haven't got summoning magic nor dark magic indexed and we don't even have the weapons grades mentioned iirc
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I was working on a few abilities that rimuru might need. NEP 3 seems to be the most obvious one to add so i just threw that in here to ask for your opinions.
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We're gonna wanna reevaluate Ramiris' Labyrinth eventually too. I did keep some notes on it in its earlier developments, though the many changes it went through overtime made me stop. I'll be honest and say I was already sus of all the floors being uni sized since nothing indicated that to me
But, yeah let's start with simpler stuff
But, yeah let's start with simpler stuff
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Let’s leave the labyrinth for now. Let’s work on abilities and what dark soul said. Let’s leave the complex work once volume 21 has been released, OTL I mean.
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Once I finish up volume 17 (which should be later today) I guess I can go ahead and torture myself look into the events of the mobile game that seem to be canon.
@PrimeHydra64 does the thread you made list all the stories that are supposed to be canon? If not, mind telling me the ones that are?
@PrimeHydra64 does the thread you made list all the stories that are supposed to be canon? If not, mind telling me the ones that are?
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Only Hidden Stories and Original Author Scenarios events other than those should be Isekai Memories Canon
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Volume 11 adaptation is going to be peak
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Funny thing is, rimuru still unironically solos their verse without trying, probably does this in his first key lol
Universe sized, the debunk was talking about an overtime or conqeuring of a universe rather than physically destroying it, but we have a good statement from volume 16 in the prologue on how the phantoms destroy the invaders from otherworlds and those worlds as well. Can someone check the correct TL on that please?
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Glad you asked, I just got it today and it most likely means literal destruction
Because, as all 3 forces are said to do the same thing, Mythical beasts are included, and they don't conquer, they destroy. It also makes sense: no dimension - no future problems. And now Zalario's statement about Treyni and Haris makes sense, with new context
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I should ask, is there reason to believe it's not overtime? That's like the only thing holding it back for me.
If we have any reason the destruction is basically nuking then we're set
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Nothing is suggesting it isn't overtime but nothing is suggesting IT IS, especially now we have 3 supporting evidence of people destroying worlds plus volume 17 mention of worlds being destroyed by true dragons if they release their full power. Even if this is over time, it's not SOOO long like thousands of years, as the highest number we've got is phantoms wanting to have a safe space in another universe away from all the chaos in the spooky palace, but Velgrynd chased all of them away or something
We need to also find out the raws on the labrinth, volume 21 was telling us Zelanus bursting through each floor was like bursting through universes, also they said each floor was its own narrow confine of space-time.
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I will send a more detailed reply later, but right now I just wanna ask smth that was in my mind for quite some time: wtf is a destruction of a 4D structure over time? You either do it or don't. Like ¼ of infinity is still infinity
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Burden of proof would be proving it isn't overtime if we want universal off it. I honestly don't think the True Dragon destruction statement matters either since this is in reference to how mythical beasts destroy things which atm I haven't seen anything saying they flex their aura and obliterate worlds and/or dimensions like a True Dragon.
If this is like via a singular blast expanding outward then I'd assume it'd still be universal even if it's overtime. My only issue with the destruction statement is there isn't anything in the quote indicating that's what's done. Like, are they going around causing destruction across the universe they're in, or do they just nuke it?
I'd like the feat to be fine but gotta clear all doubts here
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Can't we possibly use Zalario destroying dimensions once more for this, as it sounds more like nuking
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I think that'd be a better comparison for reference over using the True Dragons, yeah. If Zalario nuked them anyways.
Hate we're cursed with mid official TLs and even Slime Reader isn't exactly gospel...
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Wasn't Zalario part already done on-site?
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You'd have to ask @Lycoris4812 that. Iirc he posted a quote about it though I forget if it was super clear about nuking or vague destruction still
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It was translated here
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Is this part any useful?
“Treyni set off first, propelling herself into the air. From above, she sent a swarm of countless unseen blades flying toward Zarario.” “making it capable of shearing through dimensions.”
“But she was just mismatched this time. Far too mismatched. Zarario didn’t take a single step—not because he failed to notice the blades but because he didn’t even need to evade them. “
“Treyni set off first, propelling herself into the air. From above, she sent a swarm of countless unseen blades flying toward Zarario.” “making it capable of shearing through dimensions.”
“But she was just mismatched this time. Far too mismatched. Zarario didn’t take a single step—not because he failed to notice the blades but because he didn’t even need to evade them. “
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Nah. That's just spatial cutting.
I might be thinking of something else, but this one also isn't clear if the destruction is nuking or wrecking havoc overtime. Are there perhaps statements from later volumes about what Zalario did to the dimensions?
Also, brb. Gonna be off for awhile
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Elde something said he Zalario was invading dimensions etc. But that’s not even his job, his job is to fight the monsters (forgot name). Also the kanjis primary meaning is destruction. So Zalario fighting the monsters who can also destroy dimensions makes sense.
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Hmm, it seems I've found smth that can help
So that implies that Zalario is stronger than Feldeay fake body. Feldway also easily defeated Velgrynd (tho weakened) and it was stated that he was the one to scold Velgrynd in the oast. So I think we can compare Felway fake body (and therefore Zalario) to TD. In thus situation nuking is a possibility
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Feldway TB was drawing with void infused diablo who was stated to be on the level of combat mode milim, who is true dragon level (okay not necessarily true dragon level but we can compare lots of characters to her) mind you feldway TB physical strength is same as Veldanava who created the universe
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Alright I'm back.
I'll be real, in the context of the "did Zalario nuke dimensions" debate I don't think there's much we can do that with that until the manga adapts visuals for us to work with and make it clearer, because all the destruction statements aren't blatantly going "oh yeah he totally nuked them". Yeah, that'll take awhile from now but I legit don't think it's the best basis for universal stats.
I'll be real, in the context of the "did Zalario nuke dimensions" debate I don't think there's much we can do that with that until the manga adapts visuals for us to work with and make it clearer, because all the destruction statements aren't blatantly going "oh yeah he totally nuked them". Yeah, that'll take awhile from now but I legit don't think it's the best basis for universal stats.
This worth looking into though.
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Okay, tier discussion is so "later", hey lets talk about the insane turn null feat we saw in volume 22 and how Feldway have HGR or even a layered one
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I have no way of reading volume 22 and I'd rather not use MTL, so...
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Then where is he? Hmmmm. he ain't coming back anytime soon
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Banned for a good few more months because they were being an irresponsible person with 'tls', you don't just auto assume, did you even READ how it went down or did you just hear it from some fan of his??
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Idk how they managed to gain fans of some sort but talk about undermining other people's efforts in the process
And they're doing a much better job at trying to keep the verse intact and potentially better than before rather than greedily aiming for things it shouldn't have before said ban happened
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It gets to a point.Today's rant?
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Oh forgor, new chapter out for the manga
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