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Object Show General Discussion Thread: New Friendly

NGL, it took me almost two whole minutes to decide who to vote for.

Also, TENNIS BALL MANAGED TO STAY IN THE GAME, LET'S GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Honestly, I think there was wasted potential for what could've been Tennis Ball potentially hosting after getting eliminated, especially since he's just too popular to the point where people hate it.

And as for that voting, imagine if someone actually suggested One or Two to be the next host due to their cameos (One made a cameo 3 times in BFDIA and Two was a recommended character in one episode of BFDI)
 
Honestly, I think there was wasted potential for what could've been Tennis Ball potentially hosting after getting eliminated, especially since he's just too popular to the point where people hate it.

And as for that voting, imagine if someone actually suggested One or Two to be the next host due to their cameos (One made a cameo 3 times in BFDIA and Two was a recommended character in one episode of BFDI)
I voted for Fries ngl, I think it'd be very funny since he'd just half-ass it all.
Also man that Needle clutch was insane, girl might win the season at this rate.
 
Honestly, I think there was wasted potential for what could've been Tennis Ball potentially hosting after getting eliminated, especially since he's just too popular to the point where people hate it.

And as for that voting, imagine if someone actually suggested One or Two to be the next host due to their cameos (One made a cameo 3 times in BFDIA and Two was a recommended character in one episode of BFDI)
Yeah, just looking at the BFDI Wiki's "Host Hypotheticals" section for the next episode could show just how crazy it could. Like, do characters who appeared as recommended characters count like Liy or Foldy? If Woody got the most votes, could they tie it into IDFB? Are the guys from BFDIA 5b eligible, since that was a game and not a proper episode? So many ways this could go...
 
NGL, it took me almost two whole minutes to decide who to vote for.
I voted for the Cheese Orb to host. I feel that he should have more screen time. I mean, it would be funny.
Honestly, I think there was wasted potential for what could've been Tennis Ball potentially hosting after getting eliminated, especially since he's just too popular to the point where people hate it.
Me wanting Tennis Ball to win BFDIA but also wanting him to get host hax:
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New episode's out

So it's come to this, huh. As much as I hoped for them to be in the final 3, I expected Coiny and Pin to be the only ones up for voting here. Well, I voted Coiny to get out and Pin to be get the prize just because I like her more.

Also, it seems like the votes are now made private most likely because of the whole drama with Fries getting out last episode when people thought Tennis Ball was getting out that led to the viewers accusing the crew of rigging the votes. Why didn't they do this earlier back in 2024 with BFDIA 9 (The episode that came out after TPOT 10 which privatized the votes there due to the drama with TPOT 9's votes [Among 5 other TPOT episodes before it at that])? At this point, people just constantly fret over their favorite character getting out that they straight up crash out and send you-know-what threats to those who voted against their character. Like, come on. It's just a cartoon. No need to make a fuss over some fictional character's time being up.
 
So... has anybody here seen an object show called The Nightly Manor? I binged it earlier and NGL, I haven't had these sorts of feelings since I saw ONE way back when.
 
So... has anybody here seen an object show called The Nightly Manor? I binged it earlier and NGL, I haven't had these sorts of feelings since I saw ONE way back when.
Yeah, I've seen that show as well. That show just felt very depressing to watch, especially the latest episode.

Fun fact: The Nightly Manor is confirmed to be in the same multiverse as The Daily Object Show.
 
Oh wait I just noticed that the show put in English subs as an option lol, I could double check with my shitty ass Russian if needed I guess
 
Btw I think him turning people into lifeless objects can double as life manipulation, since he also states he can easily reverse it.
 

It's nice to know that we're getting to see the post-split BFB contestants again after 4 years (If you don't count the BFDIA post-hiatus episodes). And based on that gap, I feel that the rejoin is just around the corner once TPOT 19 comes out.
 
So I was rewatching TPOT 15 and noticed that TV's timeline scanning is much more than just gathering information: he's quite literally scanning the entire universe just to find the missing failed debuters which he completely processes in just 3 seconds. Since we already know that BFDI's universe is infinite in size, there must be an infinite amount of bits and operations being performed that would straight up make TV have Infinite processing speed. Sure, it's processing speed, but I can definitely make an argument for it scaling to the physicals of someone.

Remember the time when One rearranged the contestants during the team swap phase? Yeah, she basically moves faster than TV could see her (She literally goes right in front of him in 2 frames) which means she's Infinite in speed physically. By proxy, Two and Four also scale since the former is already narratively implied to be superior to her while the latter is accepted to be equal/superior to the former in power. However, when I tried to find a way for the other contestants to scale to this, I kept encountering circular scaling by the fact that some scenes in the show had contestants keep up with Four (Hell, some of them even all-out-attacked Two before they could react), yet those same contestants somehow couldn't notice One when she rearranged them during the team swap phase. If they did notice her, someone would've pointed her out, yet they never did as if they didn't know who or what moved them. Even though scaling the rest of the contestants to TV's perception speed seems iffy (Especially since it would break the narrative of various episodes that had them travel finite distances in finite amounts of time in challenges), I think it would still be possible for One, Two, and Four to scale to TV's perception speed physically especially since the latter 2 are narratively implied to be superior to the contestants at their full power.

So, I'll basically ask this: should Infinite speed only scale to TV's perception speed, or is it fine to scale it to One, Two, and Four? I'd also be up to some "possibly/likely" ratings from suggestions. I'm basically asking this here and not on a CRT yet so I can group this with other ability/equipment additions I have in mind.
 
So I was rewatching TPOT 15 and noticed that TV's timeline scanning is much more than just gathering information: he's quite literally scanning the entire universe just to find the missing failed debuters which he completely processes in just 3 seconds. Since we already know that BFDI's universe is infinite in size, there must be an infinite amount of bits and operations being performed that would straight up make TV have Infinite processing speed. Sure, it's processing speed, but I can definitely make an argument for it scaling to the physicals of someone.

Remember the time when One rearranged the contestants during the team swap phase? Yeah, she basically moves faster than TV could see her (She literally goes right in front of him in 2 frames) which means she's Infinite in speed physically. By proxy, Two and Four also scale since the former is already narratively implied to be superior to her while the latter is accepted to be equal/superior to the former in power. However, when I tried to find a way for the other contestants to scale to this, I kept encountering circular scaling by the fact that some scenes in the show had contestants keep up with Four (Hell, some of them even all-out-attacked Two before they could react), yet those same contestants somehow couldn't notice One when she rearranged them during the team swap phase. If they did notice her, someone would've pointed her out, yet they never did as if they didn't know who or what moved them. Even though scaling the rest of the contestants to TV's perception speed seems iffy (Especially since it would break the narrative of various episodes that had them travel finite distances in finite amounts of time in challenges), I think it would still be possible for One, Two, and Four to scale to TV's perception speed physically especially since the latter 2 are narratively implied to be superior to the contestants at their full power.

So, I'll basically ask this: should Infinite speed only scale to TV's perception speed, or is it fine to scale it to One, Two, and Four? I'd also be up to some "possibly/likely" ratings from suggestions. I'm basically asking this here and not on a CRT yet so I can group this with other ability/equipment additions I have in mind.
TV apparently has playback of the entire cartoon series' timeline, and the acausality granted by One tampering with the Yoylite allowed TV to scan the past footage to detect temporal anomalies. He looked back at all the footage he has, and with his knowledge of how the timeline originally was and how the timeline was changed due to the temporal anomalies, TV was able to calculate a percentage of "timeline stability" and he was able to realize that the failed debuters were located in past memories that contradicted his knowledge of how the timeline originally was. TV didn't scan the universe.

Assuming TV's perception speed is Infinite, I'm not sure how to solve the inconsistency right now. Maybe One being less powerful than Two doesn't necessarily mean being slower. But then we have Donut being able to catch One by surprise with a kick, which makes things even worse, since Donut isn't even written as having those hand aura superpowers that Algebraliens have, and since it contradicts One speed blitzing Donut in the team swap phase. Maybe we'll have to accept that One has unrealistic stealth mastery rather than greater speed than the contestants. What do you think?
 
TV apparently has playback of the entire cartoon series' timeline, and the acausality granted by One tampering with the Yoylite allowed TV to scan the past footage to detect temporal anomalies. He looked back at all the footage he has, and with his knowledge of how the timeline originally was and how the timeline was changed due to the temporal anomalies, TV was able to calculate a percentage of "timeline stability" and he was able to realize that the failed debuters were located in past memories that contradicted his knowledge of how the timeline originally was. TV didn't scan the universe.
I mean, by Pen's request and the words on TV's screen, TV was truly scanning the timeline's many years of history to process every bit to find any abnormalities within the timeline that contradicted the timeline to his knowledge, and for him to actually detect these abnormalities, he would have to see every bit that happened within that point in time in the universe, would he not? Even if he was only looking at the show's past history since 2008 up until now, he'd still need to process every bit of the infinitely-sized universe to find something off.
Assuming TV's perception speed is Infinite, I'm not sure how to solve the inconsistency right now. Maybe One being less powerful than Two doesn't necessarily mean being slower. But then we have Donut being able to catch One by surprise with a kick, which makes things even worse, since Donut isn't even written as having those hand aura superpowers that Algebraliens have, and since it contradicts One speed blitzing Donut in the team swap phase. Maybe we'll have to accept that One has unrealistic stealth mastery rather than greater speed than the contestants. What do you think?
If it was just insanely good stealth mastery as opposed to greater speed, then she shouldn't have gone in front of the contestants multiple times while rearranging them, and yet she does so at a sheer speed fast enough for them (Including TV) to not notice her even when she goes directly in front of them. That team swap scene is just too crucial of a plot point to ignore, especially when it's meant to showcase the powerful traits of Algebraliens that make them superior to the contestants that fits within the narrative of the series.

I was also thinking that Two and Four are potentially holding back just to have fun with the contestants (Especially the latter) which is why they seemingly don't blitz them and let them run, but then that would end up contradicting the entire plot of TPOT 11 that had the EXITors escape Four as the latter was very eager to keep them in the EXIT which would mean he wasn't holding back in that episode. Perhaps this one instance of the EXITors getting away from Four is simply an outlier for the former?

Like I said, I'm always up to applying a "possibly/likely Infinite" speed rating for One, Two, and Four if we can't be sure that they solidly scale due to inconsistencies despite the narrative indicating that they are more powerful than the contestants.
 
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I mean, by Pen's request and the words on TV's screen, TV was truly scanning the timeline's many years of history to process every bit to find any abnormalities within the timeline that contradicted the timeline to his knowledge, and for him to actually detect these abnormalities, he would have to see every bit that happened within that point in time in the universe, would he not? Even if he was only looking at the show's past history since 2008 up until now, he'd still need to process every bit of the infinitely-sized universe to find something off.
Here's what I see: After the characters obtained acausality, Pen looked into a thought bubble depicting TV depicting Taco doing the dance that was originally done by Flower did in BFB 25, and Pen realized past events are changed from how he remembered them, including when they are viewed in TV's recordings. Pen then asked TV to scan their past to detect the failed debuters. TV was capable of doing this because he backed up footage of the BFDI cartoon series and screenshots of the BFDI prequel comics, which he was able to organize into a timeline infographic that labels only BFDI material. After scanning the BFDI timeline, it turns out the failed debuters were all participating in on-screen past events of BFDI, so due to TV having saved all that footage that was being altered in accordance with the past getting altered, he was able to view the failed debuters. It's not as though TV had a clairvoyant view of the past, it just felt like that because he collected that much footage and the changes to the past must've also been saved by his past self before he obtained acausality.

So, no, TV didn't have to process every bit that happened within the points in time in the universe he scanned. He had to process the entirety of the vast footage he has collected of the entire series, which was already recorded, and there was no certainty that the failed debuters were going to be found until they were found due to having went to scenes in the past TV had saved footage of. TV has super intelligence and he had all the footage of failed debuters causing changes to the past, so he had all the information he needed to be capable of making a conclusion about temporality without having to empirically view the entire universe. This is a feat supporting Extraordinary Genius intelligence. Besides, how is my interpretation less likely than TV suddenly proving he basically has the superpower of cosmic awareness? The idea that TV made calculations based on the information he is already proven to have makes a lot more sense than the idea that TV suddenly proved he can see across infinite space and the temporal axis, especially when TV has been caught off guard, like when Tennis Ball and Fourse accidentally fell on him. Even if TV can see literally everything and scan the setting's metaphysical timeline rather than the series' logged timeline, it's a specific activated ability, not something he passively does, which solves the inconsistency of characters being established to act in finite speed.

To be fair to you, I want to point out that it was also stated in the rapidly changing text during the "scanning timeline" process that TV was "calibrating universes" and "geolocating Earth," so I see how you believe TV was getting an outer space view if you were referring to those lines of text. To further defend my position I wrote in the previous paragraphs: The former quoted text probably means he was evaluating the original BFDI timeline and the changed one to contrast them and detect anomalies, having called the different timelines "universes" because they really are different realities in a sense, and the latter quoted text probably means he's connecting to something like Google Maps to have an even easier time visualizing. Among those rapidly changing lines of text, TV was also downloading software and connecting to external servers, so the timeline scanning process is not as simple as TV just looking with his eyes, making is questionable to scale it to his usual perception speed. I suppose it's fine to call it possibly Infinite upon activation (based on the possible implication that TV had an outer space view).


If it was just insanely good stealth mastery as opposed to greater speed, then she shouldn't have gone in front of the contestants multiple times while rearranging them, and yet she does so at a sheer speed fast enough for them (Including TV) to not notice her even when she goes directly in front of them. That team swap scene is just too crucial of a plot point to ignore, especially when it's meant to showcase the powerful traits of Algebraliens that make them superior to the contestants that fits within the narrative of the series.

I was also thinking that Two and Four are potentially holding back just to have fun with the contestants (Especially the latter) which is why they seemingly don't blitz them and let them run, but then that would end up contradicting the entire plot of TPOT 11 that had the EXITors escape Four as the latter was very eager to keep them in the EXIT which would mean he wasn't holding back in that episode. Perhaps this one instance of the EXITors getting away from Four is simply an outlier for the former?

Like I said, I'm always up to applying a "possibly/likely Infinite" speed rating for One, Two, and Four if we can't be sure that they solidly scale due to inconsistencies despite the narrative indicating that they are more powerful than the contestants.
I guess that makes more sense. Four was outsmarted a lot in TPOT 11 if I recall correctly, so that's probably intended to be the main reason the EXITors got away, and we can say they took advantage of Four being bad at using his higher speed at the right times. I agree with the idea that Four and Two restrain their full capabilities. Both of them want challenges to be interesting, Four often prefers to cause pain than instant death, and Two comes off as respectful despite them having the means to be as cruel as Four if they really wanted to. As for Donut kicking One, I guess that's the real outlier, for now, or maybe One was just that confident in her ability to convince people to accept her deals. If TV's usual perception speed is Infinite, then I think with this method it's fine to rate One, Two, and Four as likely having Infinite speed.

By the way, back when I made the Black Hole Reaches Infinity upgrade, I had considered making the proposal of scaling the feat's Infinite speed to the reality warping of Four and Two rather than only the feat's power, because the ability to "do anything" in this series would include replicating Black Hole being able to absorb across an infinite distance, but I decided to not bring that up because speed doesn't really have to do with the potency of reality warping and people were a bit skeptical of if Four and Two should even get the feat's power scaled to their reality warping anyway. Since you're taking interest in rating Four and Two that fast for a similar reason, I'm bringing this up just because you might find it useful. With this method, it might not even matter whether or not TV's scanning timeline speed is applicable to his usual perception or not, in the case that it's Infinite by any means.
 

Interesting, so this really might be an alternate universe after all.
 
Honestly, I found the episode to be mostly filler until the end. It isn't great, but it isn't bad either since we at least got to see the post-split BFB contestants again (Minus Firey and Leafy, who I assume would return in a later episode for the sake of continuing their own subplot).
 


For anybody interested in continuity, the intro implies that Tree and Spruce Tree have some sort of connection, as Tree seemed to recognize them and was genuinely upset when they lost the final challenge. Granted, that might just be because they're both trees (Flower had the same reaction as Tree after Lotus Flower got eliminated), but I figured I'd mention that detail just in case.
 


For anybody interested in continuity, the intro implies that Tree and Spruce Tree have some sort of connection, as Tree seemed to recognize them and was genuinely upset when they lost the final challenge. Granted, that might just be because they're both trees (Flower had the same reaction as Tree after Lotus Flower got eliminated), but I figured I'd mention that detail just in case.

Well, do note that the compilation videos are seemingly non-canon despite how the BFDI Mini episodes themselves are canon.
 

I guess this is supposed to be a way to make the season end at 25 episodes (Via a filler non-competition episode)? I'm somehow highly confident that Leafy is hosting considering how she's ranked the 2nd best character in the series.

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I haven't seen any leaks of this (Yes, this episode and the new TPOT episode got leaked early), but I wonder how this season will play out considering how the ending of Season 2's finale seems to depict all of the contestants now getting the opportunity to live free since they are no longer in a competition. Not to mention, MePhone had already lost his powers which is supposed to be the sole source on how he's making the challenges, so I think this will be a non-competition season.
 

I guess this is supposed to be a way to make the season end at 25 episodes (Via a filler non-competition episode)? I'm somehow highly confident that Leafy is hosting considering how she's ranked the 2nd best character in the series.

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I haven't seen any leaks of this (Yes, this episode and the new TPOT episode got leaked early), but I wonder how this season will play out considering how the ending of Season 2's finale seems to depict all of the contestants now getting the opportunity to live free since they are no longer in a competition. Not to mention, MePhone had already lost his powers which is supposed to be the sole source on how he's making the challenges, so I think this will be a non-competition season.

Another bit of BFDI news:



This ep seems to be getting hyped up...
 
New episode's out

Well, god damn it. it's going to be another competition season. It hasn't happened yet, but it has been planned at the end. At least we get to see some new characters and the return of Teddy Bear and Spikey Mervert. Though, I'm not really sure how well they are going to be in hosting the competition knowing MePhone is gone. Also, we get to see Cobs' son at the end?

And finally... it seems like all of the Chapmans are gone with their character roles replaced. I still have no clue what happened behind the scenes as to what happened to Justin (Apparently, the allegations that he was parasocial with minors were denied by an anonymous official crew member), but I guess we will never know, which is understandable if it's something too discomforting for them to explain.
New episode's out... again

IT'S ABOUT F*CKING TIME TV GOT OUT! I have no idea how he managed to stay for this long to the point where he wasted many good characters' potential (Fries, Puffball, Needle, Basketball) in every elimination he has survived. Also, I don't really care about Snowball getting out, but I kinda wish it was Grassy to go.

About the challenge itself, I actually enjoyed seeing everyone (Notably the ones with Two's powers) fight each other. It did bring some entertainment and even show off some potential as to what they can do in a fight, and it even showed some new abilities. Notably, power absorption for Two (+those with Two's powers) and Four that straight up allows them to drain powers either on contact or by killing them. I guess this means we can have a new key with Four having Two's powers due to him draining them completely as well as new keys for contestants who obtained a part of Two's powers? Or, better yet...

One obtaining both Two and Four's powers for herself in the ending? Speaking of her, man did she get serious. Especially since she can straight up erase people on a historical level with a thought which is going to be pretty useful for debates with her. And finally, wow was that ending dark, and you know things are serious when the voting music doesn't play and nobody tells the viewers to vote for who should be out next when the text is shown.

Speaking of voting, I voted Liy and Fanny. I just thought the former was really good in this episode to the point of carrying and even showing off some sick moves with Two's powers, and for the latter, I just voted her out of pity for her having the least amount of screentime for dying early (Though that might mean she is at great risk of getting out, but then again, Marker and Tree didn't do much either, and we know how Tree has been jumping the shark lately with how he's been in the bottom 2 3 times in a row on his team).
 
Well, god damn it. it's going to be another competition season. It hasn't happened yet, but it has been planned at the end. At least we get to see some new characters and the return of Teddy Bear and Spikey Mervert. Though, I'm not really sure how well they are going to be in hosting the competition knowing MePhone is gone. Also, we get to see Cobs' son at the end?

And finally... it seems like all of the Chapmans are gone with their character roles replaced. I still have no clue what happened behind the scenes as to what happened to Justin (Apparently, the allegations that he was parasocial with minors were denied by an anonymous official crew member), but I guess we will never know, which is understandable if it's something too discomforting for them to explain.

IT'S ABOUT F*CKING TIME TV GOT OUT! I have no idea how he managed to stay for this long to the point where he wasted many good characters' potential (Fries, Puffball, Needle, Basketball) in every elimination he has survived. Also, I don't really care about Snowball getting out, but I kinda wish it was Grassy to go.

About the challenge itself, I actually enjoyed seeing everyone (Notably the ones with Two's powers) fight each other. It did bring some entertainment and even show off some potential as to what they can do in a fight, and it even showed some new abilities. Notably, power absorption for Two (+those with Two's powers) and Four that straight up allows them to drain powers either on contact or by killing them. I guess this means we can have a new key with Four having Two's powers due to him draining them completely as well as new keys for contestants who obtained a part of Two's powers? Or, better yet...

One obtaining both Two and Four's powers for herself in the ending? Speaking of her, man did she get serious. Especially since she can straight up erase people on a historical level with a thought which is going to be pretty useful for debates with her. And finally, wow was that ending dark, and you know things are serious when the voting music doesn't play and nobody tells the viewers to vote for who should be out next when the text is shown.

Speaking of voting, I voted Liy and Fanny. I just thought the former was really good in this episode to the point of carrying and even showing off some sick moves with Two's powers, and for the latter, I just voted her out of pity for her having the least amount of screentime for dying early (Though that might mean she is at great risk of getting out, but then again, Marker and Tree didn't do much either, and we know how Tree has been jumping the shark lately with how he's been in the bottom 2 3 times in a row on his team).
 
IT'S ABOUT F*CKING TIME TV GOT OUT! I have no idea how he managed to stay for this long to the point where he wasted many good characters' potential (Fries, Puffball, Needle, Basketball) in every elimination he has survived. Also, I don't really care about Snowball getting out, but I kinda wish it was Grassy to go.

About the challenge itself, I actually enjoyed seeing everyone (Notably the ones with Two's powers) fight each other. It did bring some entertainment and even show off some potential as to what they can do in a fight, and it even showed some new abilities. Notably, power absorption for Two (+those with Two's powers) and Four that straight up allows them to drain powers either on contact or by killing them. I guess this means we can have a new key with Four having Two's powers due to him draining them completely as well as new keys for contestants who obtained a part of Two's powers? Or, better yet...

One obtaining both Two and Four's powers for herself in the ending? Speaking of her, man did she get serious. Especially since she can straight up erase people on a historical level with a thought which is going to be pretty useful for debates with her. And finally, wow was that ending dark, and you know things are serious when the voting music doesn't play and nobody tells the viewers to vote for who should be out next when the text is shown.

Speaking of voting, I voted Liy and Fanny. I just thought the former was really good in this episode to the point of carrying and even showing off some sick moves with Two's powers, and for the latter, I just voted her out of pity for her having the least amount of screentime for dying early (Though that might mean she is at great risk of getting out, but then again, Marker and Tree didn't do much either, and we know how Tree has been jumping the shark lately with how he's been in the bottom 2 3 times in a row on his team).
I do wonder if you can give Black Hole resistance to the timeline erasure thing, since you figure if One could just do it to him she would've done it, seeing as he was actively holding her back.
Also frankly I have no clue what next episode has in-store, I figure Winner and Loser will revive the guys who died at least. Pencil... man talk about going crazy, although I suppose I can't blame her for trying to murder Four.
 
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