I can pretty much see her mass just overriding Sky manipulation.
it would be the gravitational force list in the calc already pretty sure
I would swap Shinjuku Showdown Yuta and Yuji.
"I can pretty much see her mass, which is objectively lower than a black hole override spatial manipulation" Said no one ever.
JL isn't for reincarnated sorcerers.
She doesn't. I feel like I'm the only one who read the Kenjaku fight; Yuki tried pressing Kenjaku and he blocked all of it. After this, Choso comes and they both try beating Kenjaku, a Kenjaku who is being weighed down by Garuda and still is blocking like this and moving like this against them. After this they don't even do cqc, its just pb and swinging Garuda, only to get put down by gravity and get hit by mini Uzumakis. Where is this better cqc?
Could you put the tier in the calc?
Wank??? Quick, name THREE cqc feats Yuki has besides LOSING to KenjakuArkenis you started wanking Yuta's CQC Skills?
GREAT I'll get back to you later
It's on Sukuna's level, or at least close to it.
did it
I wasn't even talking about BLack hole
My point is not just Reincarnated Sorcerer though.
Lost due to Mini Uzumaki* If you claim he is better at CQC than her, feel free to show it. Kenjaku is stated to be on par with Gojo's CQC skills by narrative. All he did was duck and block, never tried to attack her, and they were comparable to each other despite Yuki being heavily harmed. He didn't had any CT at that time. He has no reason to not beat her up if he was really better than her.
No the **** its not, what
All you're going off of is that he didn't try so must mean they're comparable but that doesn't mean anything.
His first encounter is him in cqc with Yuta. And then he continues this at the end. Doesn't need a statement when we have him pressing Yuta. Avoiding attacks in cqc is a good thing because it shows Yuji's able to read Yuta and then counter with his own attacks which he does. And since Yuta's using a sword, he'd be killed if he didn't avoid. Also Yuji ends up picking up a knife and pressed him but misplaced his focus and got outsmarted which shows more Yuta's good in cqc against Yuji. The difference with these fights is whose on the offensive and who has better defense; Kenjaku's defense while he's weighed down is still good enough to handle both Choso and Yuki. With Yuji and Yuta, it's Yuta who's on the offensive but Yuji is being defensive and offensive and still gets outsmarted at times. Both fights display skill but Yuta and Yuji's display relativity.
It's more that he's able to move around with Yuji, coordinate and assist one another that demonstrates his quality of cqc.
Close in cqc to GW Yuji. He's getting beat in cqc by Shinjuku Yuji.
He might be onto something idk.I was arguing with a guy that used this to argue Kashimo is faster than Gojo
never cook again
SO you agree with they are comparable or you still in belief that she is way below Yuta's level? Yuta's feats are not anything relative to Kenny's. They themselves admits all of them need to jump on him.
They just talk about how Yuta's defence is based on CE pool and Ryu having geat offence and speed nothing about any skills though.
Oh brother he was focused because Yuji was not adjusted to infuse Cursed into objects at that point and needed to be in guard everytime.
Why are you ignoring the fact she was injured again and again? Also Kenjaku character doesn't just stand down if he is confident enough to beat his opponents down. His body is slightly influenced by Geto's character also who is good in CQC and who also engaged Yuta in CQC. Geto only lost due to Sts. Also Kenny was beating Choso up in Hand to Hand in same fight before.
Yuji wasn’t on defense—he was constantly on the offensive against Sukuna. It was Yuta who was playing defense, and Rika was just throwing punches.
Yeah Yuta's is a assist doesn't mean he is better at CQC when fighting others though.
We literally see Todo assisting and tagging Sukuna in CQC but sure if you want to say Todo's skills got improved.
Yuki also lead Kenny to the point where he gets stuck by Garuda and Choso tagging him up there is enough IQ feat except Kenny was just too much for her. But that's doesn't mean Kenny and Yuta's CQC skills are on same level.
Yuta shows zero feats than her. If you are talking about using overall environment then we can talk about that but I was under the impression we are talking about one on one hand to hand combat.
Seems like contradictory in this site is anything that didn't happen in the manga
What jogo did in the anime was so insane btw
I don't at all believe that Yuta can replicate the domain feat outside of Gojo's body. As he doesn't know how to do this until he's in Gojo's body, and he has all the help possible from the Six Eyes. I think it's extremely unlikely that he can replicate this without Gojo's body as the weird barrier stuff is touted as something insane to do with a domain. Stepping away from how I don't believe Yuta wouldn't even clash with Kenjaku for any decent time, the means you offer for Yuta to easily negate Kenjaku's domain aren't really sensible.
No it doesn't. The statement wasn't that Yuta was the second strongest sorcerer period. Just second in regards to his strange abilities. Especially given the performance that Yuta gives after this statetment doesn't really support him being uncontested or overwhelming powerful. Yuta nearly died fighting Kurosushi, was overpowered multiple times by Ryu, and even jumping Uro wasn't able to secure a kill on her. The narrative of JJK establishes that if Yuta truly is second, it is only by the skin of his teeth.
Regarding Yuta's CE control, aside from the narrative standpoints backing it up, there are also feats that back up the fact that Yuta is as proficient as Sukuna in manipulating CE.No the **** its not, what
Going to sleep. Will read through this later.
Theme there is no need for yuta to be next Gojo. Not that yuta reaches Gojo's place.Regarding Yuta's CE control, aside from the narrative standpoints backing it up, there are also feats that back up the fact that Yuta is as proficient as Sukuna in manipulating CE.
After Yuta activates his domain in Chapter 249, Sukuna states in Chapter 250 that his total CE reserves now likely match Yuta’s, meaning that Sukuna and Yuta—post Yuta's activation of a DE—are equal in CE reserves.
This same Sukuna was stated by the narrator in Chapter 260 to be, verbatim, at the same level of CE reserves as Yuta—in a more direct and explicit manner. Not to current Yuta's level, but to Okkotsu Yuta's level. The narrator implies a factual comparison with the intent of emphasizing that Sukuna truly matches Yuta's original CE reserves.
What does this mean? It means, that just like Sukuna, Yuta can utilize a DE as many times as needed, as utilizing a DE wouldn't really drop his CE reserves from their original amount.
Narrative wise, this fits perfectly as well, since Gojo has consistently criticized Yuta's CE control throughout his career as a sorcerer.
The way Yuta uses the Limitless is also telling, as the technique is considered to be complex and unusable to use without the 6ES even for someone like Sukuna. This suggests that Yuta must already possess highly refined CE control as a foundation before even attempting to use the Limitless. Simply being in Gojo's body doesn't grant him Gojo's skills of CE control or mastery of barrier techniques—which is why he relies on his own in the first place.
All Gojo needs to do is use the CE manipulation skills he was born with and grew up with to the maximum extent that a body without the Six Eyes can handle.
Ui Ui's CT is the perfect solution to this problem, and with this much foreshadowing leading up to it, it becomes painfully obvious.
The Yuta stocks are crazy.
3rd one is good support for secondary/supplementary canon
Thank you for looking into it
Ι've already explained why I think Late Shibuya Yuji = Early CG yuji and I think that's enough for Mahito's scaling, as long as he has the stats to not get completely overwhelmed by the top tiers
Yuji definately gets tougher (Sukuna outright says so in Shinjuku) but by that point Yuji is also one of if not the toughest person in the verse aside from the big two so again this doesn't hold back Mahito from at least downscaling from the top tiers stats
That depends on the match up tbh
Nah his endurance is really good. He takes a 0.2 second UV, gets hit by Resonance, gets pounded by Yuji, has his double crushed, takes Yuji's BF right to the face, uses DE and then immediatly gets hit with another BF and it takes one more maximoum output BF right at his weakspot to put him down
Yall be overrating Curseya a lot ngl, sure if gets the chance to charge up to mach 3 he is deadly but when not Kamo can keep him at bay for several minutes and land multiple hits on him (unironically worst performance than Hanami).
He doesn't need to be faster than Naoya or Naobito especially when imo stacked Naoya and Naobito surpass the top tiers in speed
You know what's funny. When I went to sleep yesterday I was thinking about Kusakabe vs Mahito and how SD would interract with IT and as I was falling asleep it hits me "wait a minute I forgot about the Mechamaru fight"
While I do agree Higuruma wins that's because of his great matchup not really because he is overall stronger (infact theoretically Higu has the potential to beat a lot of people stronger than him
The problem is that none of these guys have any domain feats to their names while Mahito has the very impressive feat of pulling off the 0.2 second domain after only seeing it once
Yeah the entire Jujustu high vs Sukuna was inspired by the Anime
This is why i dont like Yuta. The character is fine, but his fans.... oh brother.Regarding Yuta's CE control, aside from the narrative standpoints backing it up, there are also feats that back up the fact that Yuta is as proficient as Sukuna in manipulating CE.
After Yuta activates his domain in Chapter 249, Sukuna states in Chapter 250 that his total CE reserves now likely match Yuta’s, meaning that Sukuna and Yuta—post Yuta's activation of a DE—are equal in CE reserves.
This same Sukuna was stated by the narrator in Chapter 260 to be, verbatim, at the same level of CE reserves as Yuta—in a more direct and explicit manner. Not to current Yuta's level, but to Okkotsu Yuta's level. The narrator implies a factual comparison with the intent of emphasizing that Sukuna truly matches Yuta's original CE reserves.
What does this mean? It means, that just like Sukuna, Yuta can utilize a DE as many times as needed, as utilizing a DE wouldn't really drop his CE reserves from their original amount.
Narrative wise, this fits perfectly as well, since Gojo has consistently criticized Yuta's CE control throughout his career as a sorcerer.
The way Yuta uses the Limitless is also telling, as the technique is considered to be complex and unusable to use without the 6ES even for someone like Sukuna. This suggests that Yuta must already possess highly refined CE control as a foundation before even attempting to use the Limitless. Simply being in Gojo's body doesn't grant him Gojo's skills of CE control or mastery of barrier techniques—which is why he relies on his own in the first place.
All Gojo needs to do is use the CE manipulation skills he was born with and grew up with to the maximum extent that a body without the Six Eyes can handle.
Ui Ui's CT is the perfect solution to this problem, and with this much foreshadowing leading up to it, it becomes painfully obvious.
The Yuta stocks are crazy.
I would agree with this assertion if not for the fact that unmanifested Rika pulls up and completely overwhelms Yuji to the point that he couldn't move a muscle and Yuta tells her to hold him still cause they were just playing before killing him.
Rika is just a lot stronger than Yuta tbh, even during the domain fight in Shinjuku she was literally picking up Sukuna and throwing him around. Also I always interpreted the "we are playing around" line as him trying to calm Rika down so that she doesn't crush Yuji to death before he can output RCT into him
He is not. Pretty sure that FM Rika is way stronger than him
Fully manifested Rika is either on par with Yuta or stronger
tbf Rika is also a tsundere with no impulse control. She was likely gonna kill Maki in the Vol 0 and hurt anyone who got close to Yuta including his sister. Even after being "freed" she is aggressive we see how she killed the curse that Yuta saved the little girl from. I think its more so that she just doesn't turn yuji into blood puddle
We are talking about raw strength here so the sword point is kind of irrelevant. Rika can throw around Ishigori and crack his skull and Ryu is stronger than Yuta. She was also the one pressing Sukuna the most during the domain fight and straight up overpowers him several times.
