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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

OjeTheArcher15 said:
For number one we know it's not because of Uraume deactivating her CT because the narrator already stated despite hakari trapping her in his domain the ice continued to fall
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That doesn’t mean she didn’t deactivate her ct.

OjeTheArcher15 said:
For number 2 I got the raws for the panel in question and it turns out sukuna did make a gesture

Looking at the characters in the speech bubble I highlighted. The character used is "スッ" which is written in Japanese katakana meaning it's actually a sound effect

I checked it's meaning online and saw its actually used to signify quick and silent actions

Jjk having sound effects in speech bubbles isn't something really new as well
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Yeah seems he snaps his fingers or just waves his hand. Nothing really to show he destroyed it.
 
Arkenis said:
That doesn’t mean she didn’t deactivate her ct.
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Because the narrator already stated she has been trapped by hakari yet the ice continued to fall unimpeded.
Meaning the ice was unaffected by Uraume absence
And she wouldn't be able to deactivate a CT when she's trapped in a domain expansion
Arkenis said:
Yeah seems he snaps his fingers or just waves his hand. Nothing really to show he destroyed it.
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The ice starts melting after he makes said gesture, so it points to him doing the melting
 
OjeTheArcher15 said:
Because the narrator already stated she has been trapped by hakari yet the ice continued to fall unimpeded.
Meaning the ice was unaffected by Uraume absence
And she wouldn't be able to deactivate a CT when she's trapped in a domain expansion
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Delayed deactivation.

OjeTheArcher15 said:
The ice starts melting after he makes said gesture, so it points to him doing the melting
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Kinda like an activation or deactivation? There’s no sign of an attack released though is there?
 
Arkenis said:
Delayed deactivation.
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Is that even possible or it's a higher agenda to counter mine?
Like did Uraume predict the exact moment sukuna made that gesture and made her technique to melt at that moment?
Or like sukuna and her have rehearsed it prior to this and she already knows how sukuna would act
But seriously tho, I don't think we have any evidence of that being possible and the wording of the narrator wouldn't make sense
Arkenis said:
Kinda like an activation or deactivation? There’s no sign of an attack released though is there?
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Yeah
But there's a gesture done tho, unless Uraume can precog sukuna, it seems more likely that it was caused by sukuna melting it instead of Uraume doing something like delayed deactivation
 
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OjeTheArcher15 said:
Is that even possible or it's a higher agenda to counter mine?
Like did Uraume predict the exact moment sukuna made that gesture and made her technique to melt at that moment?
Or like sukuna and her have rehearsed it prior to this and she already knows how sukuna would act
But seriously tho, I don't think we have any evidence of that being possible and the wording of the narrator wouldn't make sense
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Seriously, its more likely the gesture was a signal to Uraume. Every interpretation you said is more possible than going with Sukuna melted the block through power as we see zero to indicate he attacked it and the guy just has nothing to do so.
 
Arkenis said:
Seriously, its more likely the gesture was a signal to Uraume. Every interpretation you said is more possible than going with Sukuna melted the block through power as we see zero to indicate he attacked it and the guy just has nothing to do so.
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Going to push back on this front, no way Uruame could've gotten that signal as she's literally having a stare off with Hakari before it occurs. There is little way for either her or Sukuna to communicate to the other once Hakari and Kashimo enter the field.
 
Duedate8898 said:
Going to push back on this front, no way Uruame could've gotten that signal as she's literally having a stare off with Hakari before it occurs. There is little way for either her or Sukuna to communicate to the other once Hakari and Kashimo enter the field.
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How are both you so confident in saying its not that when you’ve offered nothing remotely more logical than it? And ya act like these two can only communicate through nothing but words, for all we know Sukuna can flare his ce to signal to Uraume.
 
Arkenis said:
Seriously, its more likely the gesture was a signal to Uraume. Every interpretation you said is more possible than going with Sukuna melted the block through power as we see zero to indicate he attacked it and the guy just has nothing to do so.
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That would be low-key weird tho
I mean the narration already states she already was trapped in domain prior to sukuna even raising his hand
Unless she can see through dimensions, she had no way to see the signal (although it would be cool if she can do so)

Nah most of those interpretations aren't possible (precognition for Uraume would be crazy tho) and it's easier to attribute the melting to sukuna gesture since that's an indication

The sequence goes like this;
Uraume gets trapped------> the Ice is unaffected by this and continues falling----> sukuna makes a quick and silent gesture----> The ice starts melting -----> ice fully melts
 
Arkenis said:
How are both you so confident in saying its not that when you’ve offered nothing remotely more logical than it? And ya act like these two can only communicate through nothing but words, for all we know Sukuna can flare his ce to signal to Uraume.
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We're confident because the narrator literally states Uraume had already been trapped before sukuna made any gesture
 
OjeTheArcher15 said:
Uraume gets trapped------> the Ice is unaffected by this and continues falling----> sukuna makes a quick and silent gesture----> The ice starts melting -----> ice fully melts
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Yeah its also likely Sukuna's gesture did it too. Already acknowledged that. What I disagree with is passing it off as a feat since we see nothing to indicate he attacked it.
Arkenis said:
Yeah seems he snaps his fingers or just waves his hand. Nothing really to show he destroyed it.
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OjeTheArcher15 said:
We're confident because the narrator literally states Uraume had already been trapped before sukuna made any gesture
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I asked about your confidence in reference to you dismissing it and not offering anything more logical than it. I don't think it's relevant if you disagree with my interpretation, the issue is you presenting a more concrete interpretation as to what happened.
 
eibwen said:

LMAOOOOOO
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POV : You are watching Kashimo get sent back to the abyss of top 15 once again

dr-facilier-death.gif
 
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Arkenis said:
Yeah its also likely Sukuna's gesture did it too. Already acknowledged that. What I disagree with is passing it off as a feat since we see nothing to indicate he attacked it.
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The gesture is an indication tho and it was pointed towards the ice, then ice started melting

Arkenis said:
I asked about your confidence in reference to you dismissing it and not offering anything more logical than it. I don't think it's relevant if you disagree with my interpretation, the issue is you presenting a more concrete interpretation as to what happened.
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The issue is that your interpretation doesn't exist in context of the narrative that's why I dismissed it in the first place
And I mean said observation is a concrete interpretation based on what can be seen and we see a sequence which starts from sukuna making a gesture and the ice melting
We can remove the interpretation that Uraume deactivated it through sukuna signal because the narration already debunks that, which leaves us with the simplest explanation that sukuna melted it since the ice still needed to be melted to retrieve Kamutoke
Also cursed energy can be used to do it as well? sukuna never lost his technique or his ability to used cursed energy
I personally think sukuna used a cursed energy blast
 
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MinatoSparkle said:
Errrrrrr, MBA Kashimo>>Base Kashimo~JP Hakari~Uraume

Lit fought on par with JP Hakari
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Bold of you to think I care about context or narrative interpretation when it comes to slandering Kashimo
Note kashimo is a sea victim btw, could make an argument that Dagon waterboards him
All Yuta victims tho
 
OjeTheArcher15 said:
The gesture is an indication tho and it was pointed towards the ice, then ice started melting


The issue is that your interpretation doesn't exist in context of the narrative that's why I dismissed it in the first place
And I mean said observation is a concrete interpretation based on what can be seen and we see a sequence which starts from sukuna making a gesture and the ice melting
We can remove the interpretation that Uraume deactivated it through sukuna signal because the narration already debunks that, which leaves us with the simplest explanation that sukuna melted it since the ice still needed to be melted to retrieve Kamutoke
Also cursed energy can be used to do it as well? sukuna never lost his technique or his ability to used cursed energy
I personally think sukuna used a cursed energy blast
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Show the blast.
 
OjeTheArcher15 said:
The gesture is an indication tho and it was pointed towards the ice, then ice started melting


The issue is that your interpretation doesn't exist in context of the narrative that's why I dismissed it in the first place
And I mean said observation is a concrete interpretation based on what can be seen and we see a sequence which starts from sukuna making a gesture and the ice melting
We can remove the interpretation that Uraume deactivated it through sukuna signal because the narration already debunks that, which leaves us with the simplest explanation that sukuna melted it via gesture since the ice still needed to be melted to retrieve Kamutoke
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The narration doesn't necessarily rule out the possibility that Uraume was responsible for the ice plummeting and melting in the first place. If the ice continued to descend, despite the fact that Uraume had been trapped within Hakari's domain, it could suggest that the technique was still being maintained. This process of deactivation is also consistent with how it's been presented.

The sound effect you previously mentioned (スッ) is often used to describe effortless movement or action—which, undeniably in this case, refers to Sukuna raising his hand and waiting for the ice to melt to get Kamutoke.

How could Sukuna even melt the ice should be the real question instead.
 
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OjeTheArcher15 said:
"I personally think"
Arkenis: show the blast
All that's needed is indication the sukuna was the one who melted it and that's has been provided via Occam razor
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Occam’s razor isn’t gonna work here when we’re talking about scaling. If that’s just your belief then fine but it’s got zero value when it comes to applying it on pages.
 
BahamutQ0 said:
The narration doesn't necessarily rule out the possibility that Uraume was responsible for the ice plummeting and melting in the first place. If the ice continued to descend, despite the fact that Uraume had been trapped within Hakari's domain, it could suggest that the technique was still being maintained. This process of deactivation is also consistent with how it's been presented.
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If that is so how was the deactivation timed
I originally discussed this with arkenis
It's only after sukuna makes the gesture that's when the ice began to melt
Unless Uraume can see or sense through separated spaces, then it's not Uraume that caused it
Plus the deactivation causes the ice to immeasurably melt instead of what we saw
BahamutQ0 said:
The sound effect you previously mentioned (スッ) is often used to describe effortless movement or action—which, undeniably in this case, refers to Sukuna waiting for the ice to melt to get Kamutoke.

How could Sukuna even melt the ice should be the real question instead.
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I've already addressed the Uraume deactivated it argument so if it's the falling that caused it to melt, that can't be possible
 
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