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Before making any new Sonic keys we should decide if Deadline should be downgraded or upgraded. Then we think about any other Sonic pages.
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R>F Off Panel Sonic
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Yes, the topic is still ongoing, and at the very least, I think R > F is reasonable. However, our priority will be scaling Off Panel and Deadline.
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What? ..... try these links and let me know if they work.
Off Panel Chaos Emerald Checkup Link One
Off Panel Chaos Emerald Checkup (back up link just in case and skip to the last page)
Crossover By Laws
I thought it was discussing whether 1-A Off Panel Sonic gets approved or not and what abilities he should have.
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yeah but this is not the main topic
Most likely, they can possess it solely because they embody the Chaos Force (though we don’t even know if it’s the same one), but personally, I find it illogical.
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It's mostly on what to do with Off-Panel R>F and if it's valid, and what to do with Deadline's page.
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My question is if it's really all-that relevant to make a page for it in the first place. Honestly, it seems like being overly-thorough for these characters that realistically hold no actual presence in the Verse other than writing the comic. It's like making a page for a drawn interpretation of the writer in a comic. Just seems a little useless and doesn't really add onto anything in the grand scheme of the world from a more verse-consequential standpoint. Though, I understand that this line of thinking just puts R>F into question as a whole, but I'm only wondering if it's relevant enough to even put on the wiki.
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theres already a page for one character from off-panel on the wiki, so I dont see why not
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I suppose so, but I still hold my thoughts even still. Not saying it ISN'T relevant for a page for just Off-Panel Sonic, just wondering if it truly is.
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This. All I want is for staff to decide if Deadline gets downgraded or upgraded.
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I guess I'm late, but it's not too late to explain. The short answer to the question is: they are relevant because this is the inaccessible realm where OP Sonic himself resides.
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Can people access said realm?
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No such thing is involved, no one in fiction can reach or even feel it
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Sure dude,take care of yourself!
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Can someone explain how they get Acasuality type 5? Be Tier 1-A, dont give you acausality type 5 for default
There are dudes with Tier High 1-A without acausality
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There are dudes with Tier High 1-A without acausality
Lucifer Morningstar (DC Comics)
Lucifer Morningstar is a fallen rebel archangel who was cast out of Heaven and onto Earth as punishment for leading the revolt of the angels. He's the twin brother of Michael Demiurgos and the uncle of Elaine Belloc. Before the DC Verse was created, in the void outside all creations that is the...
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Wrong thread for this.Can someone explain how they get Acasuality type 5? Be Tier 1-A, dont give you acausality type 5 for default
There are dudes with Tier High 1-A without acausality
Lucifer Morningstar (DC Comics)
Lucifer Morningstar is a fallen rebel archangel who was cast out of Heaven and onto Earth as punishment for leading the revolt of the angels. He's the twin brother of Michael Demiurgos and the uncle of Elaine Belloc. Before the DC Verse was created, in the void outside all creations that is the...
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I'm not exactly sure about this, but this may happen in Acasuality 4, but let me tell you: It is a world and characters where all possibilities are mentioned, that is, isolated from everything that can happen in fiction, so I think it can get Acasuality 5, but this type can also be 4. So what are your thoughts on crt if you don't mind me asking?
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i the right thread because i asking about the blog tjat it use
that is not how acuasulity type 5 works, otherwise many Characters that are 1-A would get it
A bit neutral, likely fine but honestly it would need more appearances, because it feels like a minor detail (this last is just me)
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Accepted Persona 5 scaling.
Though, in comparison, Off Panel started at Issue #25 (well, Issue #12) out of #684 comic issues.
This is kinda an absurd denial.
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100% it is on his end.
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We already have pages for this 4th wall omake so we need to decide on what to do with them.
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Sure,are you accept then?
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There are plenty more Off Panel strips present. I will say, this CRT definitely needs to pull those up more as evidence as opposed to just a few. I posted a couple previously.
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I just read through the thread and am confused.
Why is the thread being denied?
Why is the thread being denied?
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It sounds to me that Ultima thinks Off-Panel is nothing more than an omake and finds it inconcevable that Off Panel is genuinely R > F.
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I don't fully understand it but I think it's a misunderstanding because the reason given is that it's just the 4th wall but that doesn't make sense. Of course I respect everyone's opinions but it doesn't make
sense. So what's your opinion?
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We need Ultima to get elaborate on his disagreement, but I assume it's mostly he doesn't think this is enough for a page or keys because omakes or 4th wall breaks are common in media. However Deadline already has a page so we need to first decide if Off-Panel is actually 1-A or not.
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Ah, I’m familiar with the Full Metal Alchemist ones.
Then I disagree with Off Panel being an Omake. Omake are irrelevant gag comics. They don’t offer greater insight to the story and don’t have any sense of their own continuity. At best, they offer commentary to the main story and have no story of their own to share.
Off Panel is different, and that makes it interesting. Off Panel in general is comedic and 4th wall breaking, but they share the narrative through line of Archie comics’ staff, who was in charger for which era, and how they operated Off Panel during their time.
Off Panel contain unique stories within themselves that don’t need the main book to create context for, as Omakes do. Off Panel recognizes itself as a separate space from the main book and recognizes its own superior over the main book by insinuating it develops the stories and promotional material like cover art. It also recognizes itself as operating on a different flow time than the main book.
Then I disagree with Off Panel being an Omake. Omake are irrelevant gag comics. They don’t offer greater insight to the story and don’t have any sense of their own continuity. At best, they offer commentary to the main story and have no story of their own to share.
Off Panel is different, and that makes it interesting. Off Panel in general is comedic and 4th wall breaking, but they share the narrative through line of Archie comics’ staff, who was in charger for which era, and how they operated Off Panel during their time.
Off Panel contain unique stories within themselves that don’t need the main book to create context for, as Omakes do. Off Panel recognizes itself as a separate space from the main book and recognizes its own superior over the main book by insinuating it develops the stories and promotional material like cover art. It also recognizes itself as operating on a different flow time than the main book.
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I don't want to sound like a nerd, but does that mean you agree?
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Ye
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Yuppi
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I'm unsure that really makes it NOT an Omake by that logic, to be honest. Off-Panel has no relevance to the actual overarching story to Archie aside from them writing the comics. Off-Panel is just the sitcom of Archie and doesn't actually do anything. Off-Panel doesn't seem to have much sense of continuity, and don't have an actual story aside from rather barebones and basic A-to-B plot. It doesn't actually give or take. It's just existent.
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if there is more, i have no problem with them existing
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The relevance is that Archie Sonic started as a 4th wall story with gags. The overarching story is the comic staff doing whatever they want, in Off Panel and to the mainline story.
The staff avatar’s disappearance in Off Panel is when Sega began overseeing the book.
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Did you see the ones I posted in the thread earlier? It implies Off Panel Sonic not only has a Super Form due to the Chaos Emeralds existing, but also because the Crossover By Law shows that Off Panel Sonic has to act out those stories. That would give him all of Archie Sonic’s abilities, forms (including Ultra Sonic), and optional equipment.
This is also supported by Issue 252’s Off Panel as well.
Issue 252 Off Panel (Skip towards the bottom here. Every time I try to link just one image, it never works and I don’t know how to link the image otherwise).
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That's just typical 4th-wall stuff. I don't see why that's relevant by your own logic. In order for it to even work, they have to be separate. Not only so, but Off-Panel has no real overarching story. It's literally just side-content that people are hard-pressed to even consider or read. I don't think the star avatar's disappearance from Off-Panel is relevant either. Lots of characters just come and go. People are usually here for Sonic, so it was probably just a shift so Off-Panel features Sonic more often. That just makes sense.
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Doesn't this just imply that Archie Comics is LITERALLY a story, and he's just a actor playing out the scripts they right?
That ain't exactly R>F, that's like, just being an actor?
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No, because Mega Man also had an avatar in Off Panel during the crossover. He has an Off Panel avatar in his own book too.
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What's that have to do with anything.
Both have archie crossovers?
If Archie Sonic comics, is just Off Panel playing out a story they wrote, they kinda invalidates it being R>F, and more just the main story is just that, a story.
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- State how the 4th Wall is relevance to the story.
- State verbatim what Off Panel’s overarching story is.
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* Uh, nuh uh.
Archie Sonic wanted to tell stories other than about Sonic. This is very well documented. That’s why Sally got a miniseries. That’s why Tails got a miniseries. That’s why Knuckles and the Penders situation happened. Why the Downunder Freedom Fighter, the Wolf Pack, Geoffrey St. John’s Secret Service, Fantastic Four rip offs, the sea mammal freedom fighters, etc, has their own stories is because Archie Sonic was bored writing for Sonic.
Off Panel being its own thing is consistent.
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